How the Axis could have won. Allied AAR RTW

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1st July 1941

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Typical. When the Regia Marina finally come out, the RN units are separated from each other and readiness is suspect. I don't want to run from a battle but I don't want to lose a fight with the RM either.

The Greeks are on their last legs as the Germans close in on Athens.
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1st July 1941

Soviet Union

Northwestern Front

Where are my units - part II? The good news is the Soviets have 785 MPP Hussah!

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There are more units in this vital sector - and the pocket created west of Brest-Litovsk is useful to waste time and hold the Germans up.

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1st July 1941

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Southern and Southwestern Fronts


I need a big performance from the IV Rifle Corps defending Odessa. The Ukraine looks like ideal tank country.....

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The Ukraine looks like ideal tank country.....

Jeepers! You think? Keen insight. [:'(]

ETA: This just in: the world is round, water is wet and the Bismarck was scuttled!
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The Ukraine looks like ideal tank country.....

Jeepers! You think? Keen insight. [:'(]

ETA: This just in: the world is round, water is wet and the Bismarck was scuttled!
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Thank-you. I was of course aware of the scuttling of the German ship but I had no idea about the sphere-like nature of planet earth and the physical constituency of water. Thank-you Chickenboy for your contribution to this AAR [&o].
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Shame about O'Conner getting captured that could be a real blow for operations in the WD,Glad your running through this as im getting loads of tips about what to expect great job Warspite1 keep it coming.

The battle of Medjerda is almost forgotten,but was fought against highly disciplined German troops and blasted a route straight to Tunis it was a perfect infiltration battle and should be remembered as the best fought British battle of the war.
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One the positive side, you're doing way better in Egypt than me - last turn I lost the 7th Armoured and my beloved Australian Corps, both annihilated [:(] - I doubt I can hold Egypt in my game.

Looking at your research, maybe you should research both Infantry Weapons and Infantry Warfare, Command & Control and increase Anti-Submarine Warfare research. It really helps a lot in preventing the Subs to evade and dive, believe me.
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One the positive side, you're doing way better in Egypt than me - last turn I lost the 7th Armoured and my beloved Australian Corps, both annihilated [:(] - I doubt I can hold Egypt in my game.

Looking at your research, maybe you should research both Infantry Weapons and Infantry Warfare, Command & Control and increase Anti-Submarine Warfare research. It really helps a lot in preventing the Subs to evade and dive, believe me.
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Yes I shall look more closely at research now.

As for Egypt, a lot of those units are at less than full strength. I will be lucky to hold the Germans I think based purely on what I have seen so far. I should have been busy with Engineers me thinks [&:]
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United Kingdom
The badly depleted U-boat wolfpack off the West African coast escapes. The British 1st Escort Flotilla, ordered into the Bay of Biscay to try and hunt it down, comes across another wolfpack - but comes off worse in the engagement.

In the Mediterranean the Royal Navy continues to come off worst. The 1st Submarine Flotilla attacks the old battleship Andrea Doria but has to retreat back to Malta after coming off worst in that encounter. The battleships of the Mediterranean Fleet bombard the Italian HQ in Benghazi, but again they suffer losses in exchange for taking out 4 MPP.

I cannot risk the RN against the entire RM and the remaining ships make a partial withdrawal to the southeast.

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I do what I can in Egypt with the MPP available. I start to reinforce the ANZACS and order the Canadians to Cairo, while the British V Corps are ordered to defend the naval base at Alexandria.

All British MPP have now gone and I have nothing to spend on the Greeks....

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1st July 1941

USA

The Americans crank up Amphibious Warfare research as well as Ground Attack Weapons.

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The Soviets put effort into Infantry and Anti-Tank weapons. Everything else will have to be spent on actually getting some units on the board.
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1st July 1941

Soviet Union

The Baltic Fleet puts to sea to put some pressure on the German Iron Ore convoys.

Baltic Fleet - Admiral Vladimir Tributs
BB - Marat (Flagship), Oktyabrskaya Revolyutsiya
CL - Kirov, Maxim Gorkiy (actually CA)
SS - 1st Submarine Brigade

The Soviets purchase two armies, corps and a garrison. I reinforce what I can but try and move as few units as possible so I don't lose entrenchment and try and play for time.
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1st July 1941

United States

Decision time - do the US want to spend 25 MPP to garrison Iceland?

Yes please.

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15th July 1941

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Ouch!

That was painful everywhere. There is a German raider at large, the Italian Fleet launched a hit and run against the RN, Odessa and Proskurov fall.
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15th July 1941

Holy Crap!!!

Two colossal naval engagements have just taken place. I won't be able to complete the reports until I get to the end of the turn and I see exactly what was lost. So I will complete what I can now and then add to the reports as and when things become clear. This is where a replay function would be useful. I am damned if I can remember exactly what happened but I will give it a go.

Battle of the Scilly Isles - 15th July 1941
The British sent out the 1st Destroyer Flotilla to assist in the search for the German wolfpacks reported in the Bay of Biscay. The destroyers were surprised by the U-boats and a large destroyer/sub battle developed with the British suffering the greater losses.

As the battle raged, German destroyers were spotted on the horizon by more than one British destroyer. In response, from the west coast, four RN battleships (King George V (Flagship Adm Tovey), Duke of York, Prince of Wales and Queen Elizabeth) - already having been ordered to raise steam - were called immediately into action as surely, with destroyers out this far, the heavier units of the Kriegsmarine could not be far behind?

The British hunch was correct. But before the British battleships came into range, the 1st (Free French) Cruiser Squadron, that had been ordered to sail from Portsmouth to aid the destroyers, ran straight into the German fleet. The 6-inch gunned light cruisers were pounced upon by the German capital ships and totally destroyed.

However the Free French cruisers had put up a sterling defence and launched a successful torpedo attack against Scharnhorst. The damage inflicted allowed sufficient time for the three new King George V-class battleships to get into the fray (the slower Queen Elizabeth was still some way astern) and an epic duel ensued between the 14-inch gunned KGV's and the German capital ships.

The crippled Scharnhorst was overwhelmed and sunk, but with darkness falling the remaining German ships looked like getting away despite the addition of the 15-inch guns of HMS Hood and HMS Queen Elizabeth. The poorly armoured Hood was badly damaged but managed to remain in battle and firing salvoes from her two remaining turrets.

In desperation, the British brought the venerable carriers Hermes and the only slightly less ancient Furious into the battle. Their slow speed meant that they almost missed the fight entirely but Swordfish from Furious' 816 Squadron managed to deliver its torpedoes against the withdrawing Germans. As darkness finally rendered operations at an end, the exact fate of the German fleet, and its make-up, is unknown.

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Battle of Sirte (Sidra) - 17th July 1941

As feared, the Regia Marina came charging to the rescue of the HQ in Benghazi, pouncing upon the British ships that were pounding the port with most of the fleet, before departing east at great speed, leaving the 1st Cruiser Squadron and the attached Greek naval squadron in distinctly poor shape.

However, they had not counted on four British battleships that were heading east on a mission to reinforce the Mediterranean Fleet and had entered the Gulf of Sirte just as the Italian navy was falling upon the battleships and cruisers of Admiral Cunningham's fleet. Despite taking some severe punishment, the four Queen Elizabeths (Warspite, Barham, Malaya and Valiant) back together again in one battle squadron for the first time since Jutland, 25-years earlier, set upon the retreating [ ].

Heroic efforts by the Italian 1st Cruiser Division (Zara, Fiume, Pola) diverted the attention of Valiant and Malaya away from their flagship, but at this point, enter stage left, came (in Admiral Somerville's words) the old tarts of the R-class. The 15-inch guns of Royal Oak and Revenge (goodness its like a Jutland reunion!) doomed the Conte Di Cavour to destruction despite the best efforts of the heavy cruisers. Joining Cavour in a watery grave were the destroyers of the 1st Destroyer Flotilla that had tried in vain to launch a torpedo strike against the British heavy cruisers, but had instead found themselves under air attack from the Swordfish flown from Illustrious and Victorious.

Even more impressive though was the performance of the Italian 3rd Cruiser Division (Trieste, Trento, Bolzano, Gorizia) the ships of which also made themselves a target (for Warspite & Barham) which allowed the battleships of the 1st Squadron to retreat east unharmed.

As daylight returns to the Mediterreanean, what will the powerful, and largely intact, Regia Marina do?

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Gripping stuff Warspite1 lets hope the Navy can give the home front something to cheer about,Im quite enjoying the naval side of my game ive lost an RN LC sqn but sank the Deutschland group but then got the RCN escort group jumped by a wolfpack which is being hunted mid Atlantic by 3 escort groups game on
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Gripping stuff Warspite1 lets hope the Navy can give the home front something to cheer about,Im quite enjoying the naval side of my game ive lost an RN LC sqn but sank the Deutschland group but then got the RCN escort group jumped by a wolfpack which is being hunted mid Atlantic by 3 escort groups game on
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I couldn't believe it when my, already weakened, light cruisers ran smack into the German BC. What a ******! They were destroyed there and then. I was luckier against the Italians because I could see where their units were. I was thus able to sail the units that were south of Crete west using a wide arc and thus avoiding the RM - if not my carriers and cruisers would have headed straight into the Italian BB line [X(]
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Gripping stuff Warspite1 lets hope the Navy can give the home front something to cheer about,Im quite enjoying the naval side of my game ive lost an RN LC sqn but sank the Deutschland group but then got the RCN escort group jumped by a wolfpack which is being hunted mid Atlantic by 3 escort groups game on
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I couldn't believe it when my, already weakened, light cruisers ran smack into the German BC. What a ******! They were destroyed there and then. I was luckier against the Italians because I could see where their units were. I was thus able to sail the units that were south of Crete west using a wide arc and thus avoiding the RM - if not my carriers and cruisers would have headed straight into the Italian BB line [X(]

In my case, two Italian transports ran into the fleet off Benghazi. Poor guys lost an army and a corps.... oops
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