German Mountain and Jager units

Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: The German-Soviet War 1941-1945 is a turn-based World War II strategy game stretching across the entire Eastern Front. Gamers can engage in an epic campaign, including division-sized battles with realistic and historical terrain, weather, orders of battle, logistics and combat results.

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German Mountain and Jager units

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So now that Jager (and light prior to that) have the same symbol as a mountain unit, does that mean that share the same abilities/attributes as mountain divisions?
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There are also some symbols that are wrong like rocket art - is that by design because it has some other effect?
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Jager are now just like Mountain units in the blizzard.
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These Jäger divs were mountain units as well although not usually equipped with specialized Artillery etc to transport in pieces through heavy terrain, this stuff was reserved for the highly specialized Gebirgsdivision type units.
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ORIGINAL: Denniss

These Jäger divs were mountain units as well although not usually equipped with specialized Artillery etc to transport in pieces through heavy terrain, this stuff was reserved for the highly specialized Gebirgsdivision type units.

How do you define "mountain unit"? Jäger divisions had no alpine training. Those units were weakly motorised light infantry for fighting in dense forest, swamps and low mountains.

As for "WitE Blizzard elite", in 1941 German mountain and jäger divisions were non-fit for the Russian winter just like the ordinary infantry: B/c of the logistic strain they had no winterized equipment. Just like everybody else.

As for German Ski-Jäger, in Winter 1941 beside some improvised ski companies, only one batallion was formed as an emergency measure. In 1942 11 additional batallions were formed. Used a like ordinary infantry in the summner 1942 all those suffered heavy casualites and soon were unfit for combat. Same story for the 1. Ski-Jäger bde/div. in 1944.

IMO, German jäger and mountain units are much overrated in WiTE.


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ORIGINAL: wosung


How do you define "mountain unit"? Jäger divisions had no alpine training. Those units were weakly motorised light infantry for fighting in dense forest, swamps and low mountains.

As for "WitE Blizzard elite", in 1941 German mountain and jäger divisions were non-fit for the Russian winter just like the ordinary infantry: B/c of the logistic strain they had no winterized equipment. Just like everybody else.
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It's all my fault. It was too hard to add something between normal infantry and mountain, so Denniss decided it's better to represent those units as mountain than infantry.
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Very use full units during first blizzard.

Break them down into regiments and they will help hold a large area of the front.

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Are the ski battalions in the game?
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Soviet side yes, you can built ski support units.
German side there are probably some ski support units too.
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I will have to see - I know the Fins have some I think.
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As specialized Ski ground elements I only can find these:
GP0141 Germany Ski Jäger Squad
GP0142 Germany Ski Sturm Squad
GP0155 Finland Ski Squad (Fin)

As support units go, a quick scroll through the editor wields these (though the list might be incomplete):
Italy: 41 Italian Ski Battalion
Germany: 43 Skijager Brigade and 44 Skijager Division
SU: 41 Ski Battalion, 42 Ski Battalion, 42 Ski Brigade
Fin: the Commando Battalion has Ski ground elements, and the Jaeger Brigade might too (though I haven't been able to verify it)
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I may need to review them for the next version but I remember that Finns and units with Ski in name have hardcoded winter bonusses.
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