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RE: 1945 April 25
Philippines.
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RE: 1945 April 25
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RE: 1945 April 25
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RE: 1945 April 25
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RE: 1945 April 25
When do you expect to be able to attack and make progress at Manila and Clark?
RE: 1945 April 25
Questions questions questions... your devoted audience wants to know. [8D]
Additionally how are your Bomber pools managing along ?
You have had on / off / on / grounded due to weather / on / off bombing runs on Tokyo now for 30 odd days.
Lots of fires and I can only imagine that the Empire is in horrendous shape supply / production wise.
Lots of 4E Bombers in the pool now commuting to the Mariana's given its May 1945 ??
<< history tidbit >>
XXI Bomber Command reached its full strength in April when the 58th and 315th Bombardment Wings arrived in the Marianas; at this time the command comprised five wings equipped with a total of 1,002 B-29s and was the most powerful air unit in the world
I do not presuppose you have that many units on the tarmac but the pools must have recovered since the losses in DEI circa 1943 1944 ??
Additionally how are your Bomber pools managing along ?
You have had on / off / on / grounded due to weather / on / off bombing runs on Tokyo now for 30 odd days.
Lots of fires and I can only imagine that the Empire is in horrendous shape supply / production wise.
Lots of 4E Bombers in the pool now commuting to the Mariana's given its May 1945 ??
<< history tidbit >>
XXI Bomber Command reached its full strength in April when the 58th and 315th Bombardment Wings arrived in the Marianas; at this time the command comprised five wings equipped with a total of 1,002 B-29s and was the most powerful air unit in the world
I do not presuppose you have that many units on the tarmac but the pools must have recovered since the losses in DEI circa 1943 1944 ??
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.
RE: 1945 April 25
Marianas? The only places being bombed from the Marianas are the Bonins. The 4EB striking the HI are based in Formosa and Hokkaido. B-29 pools are in terrible shape, with many squadrons below and even far below TOE. I still have a bunch of squadrons with B-29-1 that I am slowly upgrading to B-29B (the night variant), which means a lack of replacements for the B-29B squadrons on line. The B-24 groups really added punch to the HI strikes. Medium pools are low. Fighter pools are excellent, to the point where many are being used in the FB role (why they are in a bomber pools answer).ORIGINAL: Macclan5
Questions questions questions... your devoted audience wants to know. [8D]
Additionally how are your Bomber pools managing along ?
You have had on / off / on / grounded due to weather / on / off bombing runs on Tokyo now for 30 odd days.
Lots of fires and I can only imagine that the Empire is in horrendous shape supply / production wise.
Lots of 4E Bombers in the pool now commuting to the Mariana's given its May 1945 ??
<< history tidbit >>
XXI Bomber Command reached its full strength in April when the 58th and 315th Bombardment Wings arrived in the Marianas; at this time the command comprised five wings equipped with a total of 1,002 B-29s and was the most powerful air unit in the world
I do not presuppose you have that many units on the tarmac but the pools must have recovered since the losses in DEI circa 1943 1944 ??
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RE: 1945 April 25
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Marianas? The only places being bombed from the Marianas are the Bonins. The 4EB striking the HI are based in Formosa and Hokkaido. B-29 pools are in terrible shape, with many squadrons below and even far below TOE. I still have a bunch of squadrons with B-29-1 that I am slowly upgrading to B-29B (the night variant), which means a lack of replacements for the B-29B squadrons on line. The B-24 groups really added punch to the HI strikes. Medium pools are low. Fighter pools are excellent, to the point where many are being used in the FB role (why they are in a bomber pools answer).
Fair enough and thanks..
I meant Mariana's not in terms of where you would base them; rather where they would fly through on the way to your preferred bases.
Do they show up in Seattle ? I have never checked the dbase/incoming groups lists that late into the war ?
i.e. do the 58th and 315th arrive in Seattle then you >> Pearl >> Mariana's >> Home Island for example ?
Needless to say from you comments; while pools are okay not really 1000 units sitting awaiting orders. [:D]
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.
RE: 1945 April 25
B-29 squadrons are arriving on the East Coast and railing to San Francisco. From there... wait for it!... they fly directly to Hokkaido!!! [:D]ORIGINAL: Macclan5
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Marianas? The only places being bombed from the Marianas are the Bonins. The 4EB striking the HI are based in Formosa and Hokkaido. B-29 pools are in terrible shape, with many squadrons below and even far below TOE. I still have a bunch of squadrons with B-29-1 that I am slowly upgrading to B-29B (the night variant), which means a lack of replacements for the B-29B squadrons on line. The B-24 groups really added punch to the HI strikes. Medium pools are low. Fighter pools are excellent, to the point where many are being used in the FB role (why they are in a bomber pools answer).
Fair enough and thanks..
I meant Mariana's not in terms of where you would base them; rather where they would fly through on the way to your preferred bases.
Do they show up in Seattle ? I have never checked the dbase/incoming groups lists that late into the war ?
i.e. do the 58th and 315th arrive in Seattle then you >> Pearl >> Mariana's >> Home Island for example ?
Needless to say from you comments; while pools are okay not really 1000 units sitting awaiting orders. [:D]
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1945 April 26
1945 April 26
The Empire captured:
The Allies captured:
Kweisui is occupied by the Allies
There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:
There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Imperial Naval Bombardments
Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Tokara Retto
Our subs are conducting secret activities.
The sea lanes are secured.
And Cabanatuan is secured.
China west.
The Empire captured:
The Allies captured:
Kweisui is occupied by the Allies
There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:
There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Imperial Naval Bombardments
Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Tokara Retto
Our subs are conducting secret activities.
The sea lanes are secured.
IJN night air strikes did their best to cover for the E flotilla, but to no avail.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Torishima at 110,69, Range 12,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DD Tanigiri, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CL Honolulu
CL Santa Fe
DD Heywood Edwards
DD Thatcher
Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 100% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Chandler, Theodore crosses the 'T'
DD Tanigiri engages CL Honolulu at 12,000 yards
DD Tanigiri engages CL Honolulu at 12,000 yards
DD Thatcher engages DD Tanigiri at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
DD Tanigiri engages DD Thatcher at 11,000 yards
DD Tanigiri engages DD Thatcher at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Tanigiri engages DD Heywood Edwards at 9,000 yards
DD Tanigiri engages DD Heywood Edwards at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CL Santa Fe engages DD Tanigiri at 6,000 yards
DD Thatcher engages DD Tanigiri at 6,000 yards
DD Tanigiri sunk by DD Thatcher at 6,000 yards
DD Tanigiri sunk by DD Thatcher at 6,000 yards
Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...
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Night Air attack on TF, near Aogashima at 116,69
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied Ships
DD Saufley
DD Philip
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Night Air attack on TF, near Aogashima at 116,69
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Saufley
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
Banzai! - Hirano K. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Chichi-jima at 116,73, Range 18,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
E No.13, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
E No.17, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
E No.19, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
E No.25, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
E No.33, Shell hits 19, and is sunk
E No.41, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
E No.49, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Bullard, Shell hits 1
DD Healy
DD Izard
DD Philip
DD Saufley
DD Taylor
DD Trathen
DD Kunming
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 30,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Burke, Arleigh A. crosses the 'T'
DD Kunming engages E No.33 at 18,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.25 at 18,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.13 at 18,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.25 at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.33 at 14,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.33 at 14,000 yards
DD Saufley engages E No.25 at 14,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.19 at 14,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.17 at 14,000 yards
Massive explosion on E No.13
DD Healy engages E No.13 at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.49 at 13,000 yards
Massive explosion on E No.49
DD Taylor engages E No.49 at 13,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.25 at 13,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.19 at 13,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.17 at 13,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.49 at 13,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.17 at 13,000 yards
Kanzaki H. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 10,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.49 at 10,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.41 at 10,000 yards
DD Taylor engages E No.33 at 10,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.25 at 10,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.41 at 10,000 yards
DD Taylor engages E No.17 at 10,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.13 at 10,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.19 at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.49 at 9,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.19 at 9,000 yards
DD Taylor engages E No.17 at 9,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.25 at 9,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.19 at 9,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.49 at 9,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.19 at 9,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.13 at 9,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.13 at 9,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.41 at 9,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.33 at 9,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.25 at 9,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.49 at 9,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.17 at 9,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.13 at 9,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.19 at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.49 at 10,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.49 at 10,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.33 at 10,000 yards
DD Saufley engages E No.33 at 10,000 yards
E No.49 sunk by DD Philip at 10,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.13 at 10,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.25 at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
DD Kunming engages E No.19 at 6,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.33 at 6,000 yards
DD Saufley engages E No.25 at 6,000 yards
DD Saufley engages E No.17 at 6,000 yards
DD Taylor engages E No.17 at 6,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.25 at 6,000 yards
DD Taylor engages E No.41 at 6,000 yards
DD Trathen engages E No.25 at 6,000 yards
DD Saufley engages E No.19 at 6,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.25 at 6,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.19 at 6,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.33 at 6,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.19 at 6,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.41 at 6,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.33 at 6,000 yards
E No.25 sunk by DD Taylor at 6,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.19 at 6,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.13 at 6,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.41 at 6,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.41 at 6,000 yards
DD Taylor engages E No.19 at 6,000 yards
DD Saufley engages E No.13 at 6,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.13 at 6,000 yards
DD Healy engages E No.19 at 6,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.19 at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
DD Saufley engages E No.41 at 4,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.33 at 4,000 yards
DD Taylor engages E No.33 at 4,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.13 at 4,000 yards
DD Philip engages E No.19 at 4,000 yards
DD Izard engages E No.13 at 4,000 yards
DD Bullard engages E No.19 at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
E No.33 sunk by DD Kunming at 3,000 yards
E No.13 sunk by DD Saufley at 3,000 yards
E No.41 sunk by DD Izard at 3,000 yards
Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...
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And Cabanatuan is secured.
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Ground combat at Cabanatuan (80,76)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 24344 troops, 351 guns, 347 vehicles, Assault Value = 847
Defending force 4406 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12
Allied adjusted assault: 563
Japanese adjusted defense: 7
Allied assault odds: 80 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1880 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 62 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 36 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
30th Australian Brigade
2nd Regiment
31st Infantry Regiment
1st Regiment
81st (West African) Division
72nd British Brigade
147th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
Provisional GMC Grp
Defending units:
1st Engineer Regiment
52nd Construction Battalion
12th Naval Construction Battalion
38th Field Const Co
51st Construction Battalion
55th Construction Battalion
17th Naval Construction Battalion
1st Engineer Regiment Wiped Out at Cabanatuan by attrition!!!
38th Field Const Co Wiped Out at Cabanatuan by attrition!!!
51st Construction Battalion Wiped Out at Cabanatuan by attrition!!!
55th Construction Battalion Wiped Out at Cabanatuan by attrition!!!
12th Naval Construction Battalion Wiped Out at Cabanatuan by attrition!!!
17th Naval Construction Battalion Wiped Out at Cabanatuan by attrition!!!
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China west.
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RE: 1945 April 26
China east. Probably in two days we will order the next attack on Hangchow. The next attack at Hankow will take a little longer. Both attacks should do very well.
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RE: 1945 April 26
China frontier.
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RE: 1945 April 26
Philippines. Clark Field is next and the defnders there should be overwhelmed pretty quickly.
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RE: 1945 April 26
Home Islands west. The Tokara Retto invasion convoys are still loading supplies. As of tomorrow the last of teh Kichi convoys will be at Daito Shoto, where they will reorganize and pick up mine sweepers. Warships are refueling at sea to the southeast. The mine layers are heading into Daito Shoto to refuel.
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RE: 1945 April 26
Home Islands east. Much quieter now.
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RE: 1945 April 26
Tokyo.
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RE: 1945 April 26
Air losses. It looks like a lot more kamikazes flew than found targets to attack.
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RE: 1945 April 26
Ship losses. An additional DD is probably sunk.
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1945 April 27
1945 April 27
The Empire captured:
The Allies captured:
There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:
There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Imperial Naval Bombardments
Allied Naval Bombardments:
Our subs are conducting secret activities.
Quiet on the ground and many units move in for decisive battles.
China west.
The Empire captured:
The Allies captured:
There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:
There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Imperial Naval Bombardments
Allied Naval Bombardments:
Our subs are conducting secret activities.
Quiet on the ground and many units move in for decisive battles.
China west.
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RE: 1945 April 27
China east.
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