Japanese Ta-Chi 13 Radar

[Alpha77]

jcax101, I already confirmed you are right, but apparently the device upgrades nonetheless, proven by the screenie from the countess above....(otherwise as "getassista" told us, this bug would be noted and busted long ago), probably a display error of some kind.[:)]

[jcax101]

Thanks Alpha77. I'm getting caught up, and that is great to know. And I don't know what the Alpha77 stands for, but one of my favorite tours was being the Alfa 6 or Alfa Company Commander. To mess with my Company I spelled it Alpha a few times. It wasn't met with much enthusiasm. LOL.

Scott

[Alpha77]

Alpha stand for Alpha Quadrant, which is an area of space in star trek universe as well I used this name for an ex-music project of mine. Has nothing to do with alfa romeo the car or alpha the leader of wolfpacks The Borg invaded the Alpha Quadrant and the federation was quite hard pressed by this suprise move.

Re. the radar thingie: I hope I am right, that it is only a display bug, because I want this radar too even if it is quite weak, better than nothing. Or better than a downgrade like the IJ inf. squads [:(]

[Alpha77]

Revisiting the thread, my radars will not upgrade too. It is 9/42 now.

But Gräfin showed a pic from Oct 42 where the unit upgraded. I play scen2 no mod.
Will the upgrade hopefully start in Oct ? I have pools of the radar yup [&:] Every other condition is met too, other devices upgrade fine.

@ Gräfin: What scen are you playing and when did the radar start the upgrade? Thanks.

[PaxMondo]

When the device upgrade is NOT in the TOE, the upgrade randomness seems a lot higher. Bigger base with lots of other bases nearby, Command HQ, lots of excess supply all seem to help. IE, getting the unit back to the HI and sticking it in Osaka/Tokyo will maximize the probability of upgrade. Empirically, the first upgrade is the most difficult ... once the 'log jam' is broken it seems to upgrade easier.

[Alpha77]

As reported above the device has no upgrade path in tracker (no. 1467 sound detector to -> no 1468 TaChi 13), so I wonder why it worked for others but not for me and the OP (or has OP solved the problem, if yes he should report back). Also perhaps others that play IJ in a stock scen can report ?

All my stuff updates ok as I noted already (outside the home islands), no need to transport a unit back to there. The supply/base is not the issue here. Also there are lots of IJA airforce units already in the HIs or China etc. - none of which update.

[GetAssista]

Fire up the editor and put device 1468 as upgrade for device 1467, it would seamlessly apply for the current game.
My current scenarios 1 and 2 also have this bug. I think I updated them from Andy's AI rework.

[Alpha77]

Thanks, in PBM the other player will get a warning I guess....(I can send him to this thread then to explain it)

Edit, does not work original scenario file can not be overwritten, it says need to be saved to new file, over 25
Ok, guess need to rename all the files manually...

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: Alpha77
Thanks, in PBM the other player will get a warning I guess....(I can send him to this thread then to explain it)

Yes, your opponent will get this: tm.asp?m=4266305

[Lowpe]

I believe you don't need to do that. You simply need to install AndyMac ([&o][&o][&o]) scenario update patch. And your opponent does too.

tm.asp?m=3198064

[PaxMondo]

yeah, my scen1 has the upgrade ... so it is a patch issue for both of you ...

[InfiniteMonkey]

ORIGINAL: jcax101

Hi,

Stock Scenario 1.

Which service (Army or Navy) uses the Ta-Chi 13 (device 1468), and what units use it? Did a preliminary scan of Flak and Engineer units but didn't see it. And I only found a few Navy Base Forces (Sasebo and Okinawa) that use the Ta-Chi 6. Does that sound accurate?

Thanks,
Scott

ID NAME NAME VALUE ARRIVAL_DATE
---- ---------------- --------------- ----- ------------
4856 101st JAAF AF Bn Iwaki 0 1941-12-07
4858 105th JAAF AF Bn Hamamatsu 0 1941-12-07
4859 106th JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 0 1941-12-07
4860 107th JAAF AF Bn Kumamoto 0 1941-12-07
4778 13th JAAF AF Bn Kobe 0 1941-12-07
4872 144th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 0 1941-12-07
4779 14th JAAF AF Bn Takao 0 1941-12-07
4780 15th JAAF AF Bn Kompong Chhnang 0 1941-12-07
4781 17th JAAF AF Bn Kompong Chhnang 0 1941-12-07
4782 18th JAAF AF Bn Kagi 0 1941-12-07
4901 207th JAAF AF Bn Harbin 0 1941-12-07
4902 209th JAAF AF Bn Taonan 0 1941-12-07
4784 20th JAAF AF Bn Tsitsihar 0 1941-12-07
4785 21st JAAF AF Bn Samah 0 1941-12-07
4786 22nd JAAF AF Bn Samah 0 1941-12-07
4787 23rd JAAF AF Bn Dalat 0 1941-12-07
4788 24th JAAF AF Bn Batan Island 0 1941-12-07
4790 26th JAAF AF Bn Rashin 0 1941-12-07
4791 27th JAAF AF Bn Kompong Trach 0 1941-12-07
4792 28th JAAF AF Bn Pescadores 0 1941-12-07
4771 2nd JAAF AF Bn Nagoya 0 1941-12-07
4793 30th JAAF AF Bn Kanko 0 1941-12-07
4796 35th JAAF AF Bn Kompong Trach 0 1941-12-07
4797 36th JAAF AF Bn Kompong Trach 0 1941-12-07
4798 37th JAAF AF Bn Yenki 0 1941-12-07
4799 38th JAAF AF Bn Tunghua 0 1941-12-07
4800 39th JAAF AF Bn Mutankiang 0 1941-12-07
4772 3rd JAAF AF Bn Okayama 0 1941-12-07
4801 40th JAAF AF Bn Pescadores 0 1941-12-07
4802 41st JAAF AF Bn Kompong Trach 0 1941-12-07
4805 46th JAAF AF Bn Kiamusze 0 1941-12-07
4806 47th JAAF AF Bn Canton 0 1941-12-07
4807 48th JAAF AF Bn Takao 0 1941-12-07
4773 4th JAAF AF Bn Takao 0 1941-12-07
4809 50th JAAF AF Bn Hengchun 0 1941-12-07
4810 51st JAAF AF Bn Hailar 0 1941-12-07
4812 53rd JAAF AF Bn Kiamusze 0 1941-12-07
4813 54th JAAF AF Bn Hankow 0 1941-12-07
4815 56th JAAF AF Bn Taiyuan 0 1941-12-07
4774 5th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 0 1941-12-07
4819 62nd JAAF AF Bn Kompong Chhnang 0 1941-12-07
4828 71st JAAF AF Bn Kiamusze 0 1941-12-07
4833 76th JAAF AF Bn Changchun 0 1941-12-07
4839 82nd JAAF AF Bn Phnom Penh 0 1941-12-07
4841 84th JAAF AF Bn Samah 0 1941-12-07
4843 86th JAAF AF Bn Mutankiang 0 1941-12-07
4777 8th JAAF AF Bn Takao 0 1941-12-07
4848 91st JAAF AF Bn Kompong Trach 0 1941-12-07
4849 92nd JAAF AF Bn Kompong Trach 0 1941-12-07
4850 93rd JAAF AF Bn Kompong Chhnang 0 1941-12-07
4851 94th JAAF AF Bn Siem Reap 0 1941-12-07
4853 96th JAAF AF Bn Kompong Trach 0 1941-12-07
4854 97th JAAF AF Bn Cam Ranh Bay 0 1941-12-07
4899 201st JAAF AF Bn Changchun 52 1942-01-28
4837 80th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 52 1942-01-28
4900 205th JAAF AF Bn Changchun 58 1942-02-03
4855 99th JAAF AF Bn Changchun 59 1942-02-04
4826 69th JAAF AF Bn Changchun 64 1942-02-09
4842 85th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 91 1942-03-08
4845 88th JAAF AF Bn Harbin 170 1942-05-26
4956 11th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 355 1942-11-27
4789 25th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 362 1942-12-04
4890 178th JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 396 1943-01-07
4820 63rd JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 396 1943-01-07
4770 1st JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 401 1943-01-12
4814 55th JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 403 1943-01-14
4830 73rd JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 403 1943-01-14
4808 49th JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 404 1943-01-15
4834 77th JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 405 1943-01-16
4825 68th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 407 1943-01-18
4864 113th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 410 1943-01-21
4964 115th JAAF AF Bn Saipan 412 1943-01-23
4889 177th JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 413 1943-01-24
4829 72nd JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 413 1943-01-24
4840 83rd JAAF AF Bn Sapporo 413 1943-01-24
4863 112th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 415 1943-01-26
4827 70th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 417 1943-01-28
4861 108th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 420 1943-01-31
4862 109th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 423 1943-02-03
4852 95th JAAF AF Bn Shanghai 535 1943-05-26
4835 78th JAAF AF Bn Takao 538 1943-05-29
4824 67th JAAF AF Bn Changchun 544 1943-06-04
4847 90th JAAF AF Bn Saigon 546 1943-06-06
4832 75th JAAF AF Bn Kirin 552 1943-06-12
4836 79th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 594 1943-07-24
4844 87th JAAF AF Bn Saigon 740 1943-12-17
4846 89th JAAF AF Bn Saigon 741 1943-12-18
4794 31st JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 746 1943-12-23
4783 19th JAAF AF Bn Nagoya 754 1943-12-31
4887 175th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 811 1944-02-26
4795 34th JAAF AF Bn Changchun 815 1944-03-01
4804 43rd JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 817 1944-03-03
4831 74th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 817 1944-03-03
4905 244th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 818 1944-03-04
4894 188th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 819 1944-03-05
4776 7th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 819 1944-03-05
4868 140th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 820 1944-03-06
4893 187th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 820 1944-03-06
4869 141st JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 821 1944-03-07
4957 134th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 822 1944-03-08
4775 6th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 822 1944-03-08
4960 180th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 823 1944-03-09
4880 165th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 824 1944-03-10
4888 176th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 825 1944-03-11
4879 164th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 826 1944-03-12
4958 148th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 829 1944-03-15
4881 166th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 832 1944-03-18
4882 169th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 832 1944-03-18
4959 149th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 835 1944-03-21
4883 170th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 835 1944-03-21
4823 66th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 835 1944-03-21
4811 52nd JAAF AF Bn Takao 851 1944-04-06
4866 138th JAAF AF Bn Takao 909 1944-06-03
4874 156th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 909 1944-06-03
4876 158th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 909 1944-06-03
4875 157th JAAF AF Bn Tokyo 914 1944-06-08
4867 139th JAAF AF Bn Takao 915 1944-06-09
4838 81st JAAF AF Bn Changchun 923 1944-06-17
4884 172nd JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 945 1944-07-09
4803 42nd JAAF AF Bn Osaka/Kyoto 946 1944-07-10
4821 64th JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 949 1944-07-13
4871 143rd JAAF AF Bn Osaka/Kyoto 950 1944-07-14
4878 163rd JAAF AF Bn Osaka/Kyoto 951 1944-07-15
4895 189th JAAF AF Bn Osaka/Kyoto 951 1944-07-15
4818 61st JAAF AF Bn Osaka/Kyoto 951 1944-07-15
4873 146th JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 952 1944-07-16
4886 174th JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 953 1944-07-17
4896 190th JAAF AF Bn Osaka/Kyoto 953 1944-07-17
4885 173rd JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 954 1944-07-18
4877 162nd JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 955 1944-07-19
4897 193rd JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 956 1944-07-20
4822 65th JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 956 1944-07-20
4870 142nd JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 957 1944-07-21
4898 194th JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 960 1944-07-24
4906 246th JAAF AF Bn Osaka/Kyoto 961 1944-07-25
4907 248th JAAF AF Bn Fukuoka 963 1944-07-27

[Alpha77]

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

ORIGINAL: Alpha77
Thanks, in PBM the other player will get a warning I guess....(I can send him to this thread then to explain it)

Yes, your opponent will get this: tm.asp?m=4266305

Just for info, I edited the radar and renamed the files for scen002. But it says in the PBM game "failed" while in the normal game the issue is fixed. I mean if a new scen2 game is started it is fixed, but neither the pbm nor the other AI game save "accepted" the update.

[GetAssista]

renamed the files for scen002?

[Alpha77]

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

renamed the files for scen002?

You cannot save (overwrite) in the editor pre-existing scens. I need to save eg. to scen 26, then rename to 2.

[Alpha77]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I believe you don't need to do that. You simply need to install AndyMac ([&o][&o][&o]) scenario update patch. And your opponent does too.

tm.asp?m=3198064

Yup this one works...[:)]