"The plane was a disaster ....."

Alpha77 · Post by **Alpha77** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:07 pm

Mr. Yohei HInoki Japanese Ace Pilot (English Sub) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-eBmnpCO18

Edit, another story this time by Zero pilot:

IJN Ace Interview: Harada Kaname

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmwj-03Txvs

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:45 pm

The pilot in the first one called the P-51's 50 cals "cannon". Or was that a bad translation?

Oh, thanks for those links Alpha77

Jorge_Stanbury · Post by **Jorge_Stanbury** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:16 pm

He also assumed 50cal as cannons when he describes Oscar's upgraded version

And the "critique" is interesting because from what I have read, it was Japanese army pilot's obsession with maneuverability at all costs what pushed designers to build something like Oscar, while a faster, better armed "Tojo" was available, but got relegated as we all PDU-OFF players know

JeffroK · Post by **JeffroK** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:08 am

You think the japanese aircraft industry was organised!!!!!!

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:24 am

ORIGINAL: JeffK

You think the japanese aircraft industry was organised!!!!!!

You know a Brit when they use an s where a z iz zuppozed to be and vice verza.

ndworl · Post by **ndworl** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:40 am

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

ORIGINAL: JeffK

You think the japanese aircraft industry was organised!!!!!!

You know a Brit when they use an s where a z iz zuppozed to be and vice verza.

Not necessarily a Brit. Other corners of the old Empire still spell properly. Not sure about Canada.

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:50 am

Canada does everything the way we Yanks do, they just add "eh?" to the end of everything*. They even drive on the correct side of the road.

*I am of course not referring to the Quebecois. Even the French do not know what language they speak.

moonraker65 · Post by **moonraker65** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:51 am

It's known as the Queen's English. The proper spelling

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:00 am

Oh, yes, I forgot. You're led by a rather short female (who doesn't know how to spell stuff 'properly').

moonraker65 · Post by **moonraker65** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:02 am

Haha [;)]. Well it's what we're used to

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:06 am

At least I don't spell my name "Jeff" and I've had to spend decades living amongst troglodytes who don't know how to pronounce "George" or is it "Goff" or is it "Goof" or "Gee-off" or ...

ndworl · Post by **ndworl** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:23 am

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Oh, yes, I forgot. You're led by a rather short female (who doesn't know how to spell stuff 'properly').

Goorblessah! Looking forward to a revitalised (see the spelling there?) Anglosphere after the Brexit vote.

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:25 am

Armour. Colour. Grey. Accoutrements (you realize there are H. Sapiens on this planet who say "Accouterments"?). Metre. Theatre. Aeon. You know, being Latin, it is pronounced with a long I (ae that is) and not eeeyon. It's been eeeyons since I heard that pronounced correctly. Labour. Let's not have an unnecessary clamour about this post. When the Americans heard "wound my heart with a monotonous languor" they thought it referred to a monkey. [:D]

ndworl · Post by **ndworl** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:28 am

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Armour. Colour. Grey. Accoutrements (you realize there are H. Sapiens on this planet who say "Accouterments"?). Metre. Theatre. Aeon. You know, being Latin, it is pronounced with a long I (ae that is) and not eeeyon. It's been eeeyons since I heard that pronounced correctly. Labour. Let's not have an unnecessary clamour about this post. When the Americans heard "wound my heart with a monotonous languor" they thought it referred to a monkey. [:D]

Surely it's "accootaments".\?

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:40 am

ORIGINAL: ndworl

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Armour. Colour. Grey. Accoutrements (you realize there are H. Sapiens on this planet who say "Accouterments"?). Metre. Theatre. Aeon. You know, being Latin, it is pronounced with a long I (ae that is) and not eeeyon. It's been eeeyons since I heard that pronounced correctly. Labour. Let's not have an unnecessary clamour about this post. When the Americans heard "wound my heart with a monotonous languor" they thought it referred to a monkey. [:D]

Surely it's "accootaments".\?

Get that coati out of your mundi.

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:45 am

I've been looking at a list of British vis a vis American spellings. I can report to you that the American version of "minibuses", (minibusses) refers to kisses that do not involve any use of the tongue.

HansBolter · Post by **HansBolter** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:35 am

Don't forget 'storey'.

Wasn't hard to tell from the cover that Multi-Storey Buildings in Steel was a book about British architecture.

Alpha77 · Post by **Alpha77** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:55 pm

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

He also assumed 50cal as cannons when he describes Oscar's upgraded version

And the "critique" is interesting because from what I have read, it was Japanese army pilot's obsession with maneuverability at all costs what pushed designers to build something like Oscar, while a faster, better armed "Tojo" was available, but got relegated as we all PDU-OFF players know

Well guess 50cal HMG can be called cannon... might also be translation issue.

You can not assume taht say 60 % were obsessed with manouverability that ALL of them were, right ?
Or have you spoken to every IJA pilot in WW2 ? [:D]

Also it sounds like plane had more problems, therefore I suggest upping the SR from 1 to 2 for the early Oscar modells.[:'(]

Jorge_Stanbury · Post by **Jorge_Stanbury** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:35 pm

Of course not all pilots will necessarily agree, but there was enough "critical mass" to guaranteed designs that prioritized maneuverability and range vs. other considerations.
Maybe a consequence of fighting too long against Polikarpovs, which were also high on maneuverability

desicat · Post by **desicat** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:36 pm

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Canada does everything the way we Yanks do, they just add "eh?" to the end of everything*. They even drive on the correct side of the road.

*I am of course not referring to the Quebecois. Even the French do not know what language they speak.

Who is this "we" you are referring to? Is English the official language on Gorn? If so why didn't Kirk understand what your predecessor was saying?

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