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I cringe when I hear newcasters (no such thing as journalist in national media) use the word "Schizophrenia" to describe a politician who has flip flopped his position. They really mean 'multiple personality' or the new tern ' dissociative disorder.' Its one of my curses being in the mental health field. [:D] [:D]

I would like to known what degree you need to obtain to make up all the new medication names. Do they think they are playing Scrabble?? Lots of "X" and "Z" being used.
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ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
And don't even get me started on turning nouns into verbs.

Is it so bad? "he elbowed his way", "don't fence me in", "I'm rooting for"...
I always thought it was a nice feature of the English language.

Francois

I think he's talking about gerunds. Fish-->fishing.
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

What about the media's sudden rapture over the word "pivot": "Today, John Kerry took a break from the value of the Yen and pivoted to foreign relations."

And when Al Gore was a candidate for president, the media became enraptured with "gravitas."

I hate both words now.

"ennui" I am never going to get tired of that word.[;)]
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

breakout session: Gag!

icebreaker: kill the utter of that buzzword.

I'm with you on icebreaker, and hate when people say it. Just say "Everybody ask your neighbor ____" or do an activity.

But what else do you call breakout sessions? I'm thinking in terms of conferences and such. I hate calling them "tracks" even more, 'cause they aren't.
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

When I was admitted to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, the admissions packet included a copy of Strunk & White. I think the good judges were appalled by the quality of lawyer writing. "Wherefore, the perpetrator ambulated in a westerly direction and confronted your complainant with malice aforethought."

Fixed the formatting for you.



Other bits:

Engineers apparently have really bad handwriting, so I'm not surprised at being forced to write in uppercase. Hell, I do it when I'm not sure the person reading my writing will be able to read it, or if I'm having a particularly bad handwriting day (I stopped writing regularly when I broke my hand in 2008).

Physicians don't seem to actually write prescriptions anymore. I'm pretty sure it's electronic, or at least printed out on some form with verification methods (bar codes maybe? Dunno). There may still be a signature required in that case. Every time I've gotten medication in the last 5 years, it's been at the same place that was giving me the prescription, so I never actually saw a piece of paper or anything.

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When I hear the word "minions".. anymore, thanks to my 3 year old and 10 year old, I can't help but shout "BA-NAN-A"

Laugh if you get the reference.

I may on occasion refer to certain low-level or incompetent employees as minions. Or maybe I don't.
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One of the things I enjoy most about this AAR is how it ventures into such esoteric threads...
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Some time back when I relocated across the country my boss was also a transplant. (As a joke, and) to head off what surely would have been extreme cognitive discombobulation on my part, he gave me a copy of Bubba Speak, which is essentially a Texas to English dictionary. [:D]
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11/16/43

John is going to "keep" this turn for a day or two to attend to homework, so all I have for now is the combat report. I'll get to see the replay later, but I won't be able to open the next turn file to see what's where as far as KB, etc. After my usual AAR format, I've copied and pasted the full combat report just in case you wish to pour over it. It was a busy and apparently a good and productive day, but there were two items of concern that I'll mention in just a moment.

Big Tent: The landings on the day seemed to go smoothly. The big assault on the beach at Morotai was unopposed and there was no auto-bombardment, so the base must be empty. To my pleasant surprise, the amphibious TFs slated for Galaei and Lolobato (further down the coast from Morotai) also made it and unloaded troops. These bases, too, appear undefended. The small landing at Gebe took that base via atoll-shock attack. And the landing at Kofiau is unopposed too.

And the troops that landed the day before at other bases took Sorong, Sansapor, and Waigeo.

Further south, Fletcher detachments patrolling at Ambon and Boela encounter large enemy merchant TFs. At Ambon, the Fletchers sank one xAK and damaged a few others (destroying roughly 30 squads, mostly combat) . The enemy ships then escaped. At Boela, the enemy ships avoided the combat. I hope that these patrolling Fletchers forced the enemy TFs out of the hex so that they didn't land troops. I'll know more when I see the map, especially if scheduled recon of these two bases was successful.

Enemy forces were active on the day: (1) A sub put two torps into an APA (if it was the one hit yesterday, it probably sank). (2) An enemy air strike found a supply xAK TF with low CAP numbers (not sure how it got separated yet) and damaged a handful of the ships. (3) A large Death Star strike went against a lone xAP at Ternate. There was heavy CAP and I lost a disproportionate number of aircraft: 15 Hellcats and 15 strike aircaft included.

The key is whether KB is one the way or not. I feel certain that it is. If so, I need to be careful with my carrier aircraft regarding sorties and fighter numbers. That will be a challenge.

On the other hand, the landgins are going very well. I've now taken (or will take tomorrow) 12 bases, including three major targets (Manikwari, Sorong and Morotai), each with well-prepped divisions, engineers, and naval-support BFs.

The first two things I'll look at when I get the replay: (1) where is KB, and (2) how do things look at Sorong in the way of supply and work by the two engineering regiments.

The next big decision: (1) stay around Morotai to unload lots of supply? (2) weigh anchor and make for Ceram to deal with those basse? (3) move back to Sorong to disband the AE/AKE (for replenishment purposes), to begin unloading strat troops (extra engineers in particular), and to protect the airfield from enemy attack.

If KB is inbound, I'm probably going to do one of three things: (1) move directly towards it to accept battle near Sorong/Manikwari (which will minimize the reach of his LBA), move towards Sorong, which will have to be my Alamo; or (3) move towards Ceram keeping open the option of moving towards northern Oz if something goes awry.

Overall impression: This was a third consecutive productive day for the Allies.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 16, 43
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Invasion Support action off Sorong (82,107)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
LST-350
LST-353
LST-354
LST-23

LST-350 fired at enemy troops
LST-353 fired at enemy troops
LST-354 fired at enemy troops


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Namlea at 76,108, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Nako Maru
xAK Kinsyo Maru
xAK Nippo Maru
xAK Terushima Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Kosei Maru
xAK Tazima Maru
xAK Terukawa Maru
xAK Alaska Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Jupiter

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 82% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
Japanese ships attempt to get underway
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages xAK Terushima Maru at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages xAK Kinsyo Maru at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages xAK Terushima Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages xAK Nippo Maru at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages xAK Kinsyo Maru at 2,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages xAK Alaska Maru at 2,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 2,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages xAK Terushima Maru at 2,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...


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Sub attack near Victoria at 208,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-38

Allied Ships
xAK Thomas M. Cooley, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
YMS-291

SS I-38 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Thomas M. Cooley
I-38 bottoming out ....
YMS-291 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-291 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-291 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-291 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-291 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ambon at 76,109, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Nako Maru
xAK Kinsyo Maru
xAK Nippo Maru
xAK Terushima Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Kosei Maru, Shell hits 3
xAK Tazima Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
xAK Terukawa Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Alaska Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Burns
DD Jenkins

Japanese ground losses:
850 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 82% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
DD Jenkins engages xAK Alaska Maru at 8,000 yards
xAK Alaska Maru sunk by DD Burns at 8,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Tazima Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Kosei Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Terushima Maru at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Jenkins engages xAK Terushima Maru at 9,000 yards
DD Jenkins engages xAK Kinsyo Maru at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
DD Jenkins engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Tazima Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Kosei Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Kinsyo Maru at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Jenkins engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 5,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Tazima Maru at 5,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Kosei Maru at 5,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Terushima Maru at 5,000 yards
DD Jenkins engages xAK Nako Maru at 5,000 yards
DD Jenkins engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 5,000 yards
DD Burns engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 5,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...


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Amphibious Assault at Morotai (80,101)

TF 340 troops unloading over beach at Morotai, 80,101

Allied ground losses:
440 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 70 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 93 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 32 (0 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Vehicles lost 60 (1 destroyed, 59 disabled)

Motorized Support lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Indian Div /3
12 Naval Support troops lost overboard during unload of 227th USN Base Force /2


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Amphibious Assault at Gebe (80,105)

TF 461 troops unloading over beach at Gebe, 80,105

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

13 troops of a USA 43 Rifle Squad lost overboard during unload of 1/153rd Infantry Bn


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Amphibious Assault at Galeia (79,101)

TF 520 troops unloading over beach at Galeia, 79,101

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Amphibious Assault at Morotai (80,101)

TF 525 troops unloading over beach at Morotai, 80,101

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (0 destroyed, 13 disabled)



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Invasion Support action off Sorong (82,107)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
LST-350
LST-353
LST-354
LST-23

LST-350 fired at enemy troops
LST-353 fired at enemy troops
LST-354 fired at enemy troops


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Amphibious Assault at Kofiau (80,106)

TF 585 troops unloading over beach at Kofiau, 80,106

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Invasion Support action off Sorong (82,107)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
LST-350
LST-353
LST-354
LST-23

LST-350 fired at enemy troops
LST-353 fired at enemy troops
LST-354 fired at enemy troops


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Sub attack near Morotai at 81,103

Japanese Ships
SS I-183

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown
BB Alabama
CA Northampton
CLAA Reno
DD Endicott
DD Shaw
DD Conyngham
DD O'Brien
DD Hughes

SS I-183 launches 2 torpedoes at CV Yorktown
I-183 diving deep ....
DD Shaw fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Conyngham attacking submerged sub ....
DD O'Brien fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hughes fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Conyngham attacking submerged sub ....
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Boela at 80,110, Range 29,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Saiko Maru
PB Shonan Maru #1
PB Takunan Maru #2
xAK Hakkaisan Maru
xAK Belgium Maru
xAK Erie Maru
xAK Glasgow Maru
xAK Ohio Maru
xAK Pacific Maru
xAK Keihuku Maru
xAK Hiyama Maru
xAK Teiryu Maru
xAK Akasi Maru
xAK Ayato Maru
xAK Bandoeng Maru
xAK Bingo Maru

Allied Ships
DD Chauncey
DD Nicholson

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 27,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards...
Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat


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Sub attack near Waigeo at 83,104

Japanese Ships
SS I-36

Allied Ships
APA President Jackson, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS I-36 launches 2 torpedoes at APA President Jackson
Sub escapes detection


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Morotai at 81,103

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N1 Jill x 24
N1K1-J George x 7

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAK George W. Julian, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AM Adroit
xAK George S. Boutwell, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Glenn Curtiss
xAK George Davidson, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Ina Coolbrith, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK George Read, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK George Taylor, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B6N1 Jill bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK George Taylor


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M4 Zero x 45
N1K1-J George x 8
Ki-84a Frank x 47

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 174
SBD-5 Dauntless x 18
TBF-1 Avenger x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M4 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 14 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed by flak
SBD-5 Dauntless: 11 destroyed
TBF-1 Avenger: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAP Teika Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Nagasaki-3 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 21000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 21000.
Raid is overhead
21st Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(20 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
20 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 32000.
Raid is overhead
202 Ku S-1 with A6M4 Zero (15 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (9 airborne, 18 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Teika Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 77,100

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 28
TBF-1 Avenger x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Karuiyuki

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
Nagasaki-3 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 21000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes



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Sub attack near Waigeo at 83,104

Japanese Ships
SS I-36

Allied Ships
APA President Jackson, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS I-36 launches 2 torpedoes at APA President Jackson
I-36 diving deep ....
Sub escapes detection


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Amphibious Assault at Morotai (80,101)

TF 386 troops unloading over beach at Morotai, 80,101



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Amphibious Assault at Lolobato (79,102)

TF 536 troops unloading over beach at Lolobato, 79,102

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Amphibious Assault at Morotai (80,101)

TF 537 troops unloading over beach at Morotai, 80,101



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Amphibious Assault at Galeia (79,101)

TF 554 troops unloading over beach at Galeia, 79,101



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Amphibious Assault at Lolobato (79,102)

TF 565 troops unloading over beach at Lolobato, 79,102

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

13 troops of a USA 41 Rifle Squad lost overboard during unload of 198th Infantry Bn


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Amphibious Assault at Morotai (80,101)

TF 566 troops unloading over beach at Morotai, 80,101



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Invasion Support action off Sorong (82,107)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
LST-350
LST-353
LST-354
LST-23

LST-350 fired at enemy troops
LST-353 fired at enemy troops
LST-354 fired at enemy troops


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Ground combat at Sorong (82,107)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15096 troops, 254 guns, 309 vehicles, Assault Value = 335

Defending force 155 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Allied adjusted assault: 698

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 698 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Sorong !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
41st Infantry Division
22nd USN Naval Construction Regiment
228th USN Base Force
21st USN Naval Construction Regiment
V US Amphib Corps
113th RN Base Force

Defending units:
1st Raiding Rgt /1


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Ground combat at Waigeo (82,106)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1020 troops, 24 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 40

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 20

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 20 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Waigeo !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment


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Ground combat at Sansapor (83,107)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 906 troops, 8 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 32

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 9

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Sansapor !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Assaulting units:
4th (Sep) Infantry Rgt /1
229th USN Base Force


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Ground combat at Gebe (80,105)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 484 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 14

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Gebe !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Assaulting units:
1/153rd Infantry Bn /17


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Honestly if the KB was strong enough to go toe to toe he would have come at you already. Beware the feint. If he wants a carrier battle let him come to you. stay on mission and that mission is to get all your troops, supplies and fuel unloaded.
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Honestly if the KB was strong enough to go toe to toe he would have come at your already. Beware the feint. If he wants a carrier battle let him come to you. stay on mission and that mission is to get all your troops, supplies and fuel unloaded.
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Thanks for the steadying hand, gents.

It is unlikely I'll deviate from the mission. The carriers will not abandon the herd. And the herd can't outrun danger. The herd needs to be productive, and that means one of two things: (1) unload supply and support troops (especially at Sorong) or (2) carry on with offensive ops around Ceram. I don't want to come under attack while amphibious ops are underway, so if KB is inbound, I'll concentrate on logistic (supply delivery). If KB is loiternig far away, I'll move on Ceram.

The hard stuff is coming, but what a start: three days, three major targets invaded, three complete divisions landed plus lots of good support. That's something to build on.

John is probably a mixture of excited at perceived opportunties and rattled at what's unfolding.

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There is also efficiency to consider - more efficient to finish unloading what is needed rather than moving on and them moving back. If Ceram were time sensitive that equation might be different. But now you can unload all, move to Ceram and unload all, then your only leash is protecting ships that you can move as you please.
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Right. This is an opening balancing act. Between these calls, which was right? Which would you have made?

1. At the opening move rapidly into the "void," taking bases before John can react and throw together defenses and bring in reinforcements. This is a "shock and awe and opportunity" approach that rattles the enemy and seizes the opportunity, but at the expense of thorough attention to the bases taken for the first days or week.

2. Move more deliberately, taking care to land enough supply and troops so that the bases taken are operational as soon as possible and aren't at risk from any early counterattacks. This leads to security (of a sort) but allows John to bring in reinforcements, possibly save bases he would've lost, and might place his perimeter closer to the important Allied bases than otherwise would have been the case.

I chose the first course. At some point - maybe now, maybe after Ceram - I have to turn my full attention to delivery of supply and reinforcements. That's why I planned on being here for two months.

Now John has three choices:

1. Commit to aggressive action to throw the defenders back into the sea. I think this is his best option. If he did manage to win a carrier battle, my bases could be isolated and defeated. His window to do this is a narrow one. The downside for him is that he risks his carriers and also his real weakness - capital ships.

2. Concede the current Big Tent AOO and move expeditiously to prepare a new line of defense in Borneo, Manado, Mindanao. This is conservative and has merit. The disadvantage is that it allows Big Tent to succeed with all the accompanying repurcussions.

3. Fail to Recognize what's happening and pursue the current course of action: John might think he's still the aggressor with a wagon train surrounded in Apachee territory. Under this scenario, he continues to build up bases around the Big Tent AOO (Aitape, Hollandia, Dili, Koepang, Kendari, Wolei, etc.) and hopes that LBA, subs and small combat TFs can inflict great damage while avoiding committing his carriers.

There may be various permutations of these. Do you see other options? If mine are on target, which one do you think he chooses? IMO, 1 and 2 offer him the best chances. 3, I think, is a disaster for him.
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This is an opening balancing act. Between these calls, which was right? Which would you have made?
I agree with the decision in your prior post - now is the time to unload the support troops and stuff to get the bases on their way to being operational.

If you have troops along that are preparing for Ceram their preparation will only increase. And due to the distance of the journey, their fatigue and disruption are probably maxed out already so no matter. Plus no shock attack required, so they can rest after landing. In other words, you can get stuff unloaded AND then go for Ceram. The KB can't stop you.
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Adding - I mean the stuff with you now, I don't mean additional convoys that are not on station now.
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Yes. I have tremendous amounts of supply and fuel to unload even though John has culled the herd a bit. It's going to take a long time, but it's as meaningful (though not as exciting) as the invasions themselves. It will be tremendously satisfying to see bases flush with troops and supply (Sorong especially - it's the key to the whole thing).

The three major targets already have full garrisons, but only Sorong has an acceptable amount of supply. I risked leaving some merchants there without CAP to make sure that base, above all others, isn't in a weakened state.
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Pardon me for going on and on and on in infinite detail, but it's fun to do so though you may opt out. :)

One of the little behind-the-scenes things that went on over the past three turns that may or may not be important but which helped me sleep better:

Big Tent Day One: all DDs replenished fuel.
Big Tent Day Two: all CLAAs and CAs replenished fuel.
Big Tent Day Three: most CVEs, all CVLs and two CVs replenished fuel (all the other carriers were in good shape).

Thus Death Star is capable of sustained maneuvers at sea should an occasion arise.
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Big Tent Day One: all DDs replenished fuel.
Big Tent Day Two: all CLAAs and CAs replenished fuel.
Big Tent Day Three: most CVEs, all CVLs and two CVs replenished fuel (all the other carriers were in good shape).

Thus Death Star is capable of sustained maneuvers at sea should an occasion arise.

You're absolutely right IMHO to pay careful attention to such details. I speculate that your opponent doesn't or didn't and that may be one reason he was caught in a bad position during the big naval battle near Wake.
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Is there any wonkiness when TFs, especially carriers, move through the light-colored ocean hexes?

It's going to happen soon. Is it bad to move through them? Is it bad to take station in one of them?

Does it enhance enemy sub or combat ship effectiveness in the event of combat? Does it detract from carrier performance in any way?

In my game vs. Miller seven years ago, we had a huge campaign in these waters. My memory is that the light-colored water didn't have any effect on flight ops or navigation but that it did somehow influence surface combat engagements, possibly subs, and possibly PT boat stuff?
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What old AE match was it that carriers and PT boats clashed near Ceram to devastating effect for the carriers. Was it Cuttlefish vs. Q-Ball?
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