The Bloody First to Arrive in 2018

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ORIGINAL: CGGrognard

I've noticed in PitF and GTC, soldiers don't seem to break as easy, nor surrender as often as previous versions. Given the time of these battles, wasn't the Wermachts' morale at a low, thereby resulting in more soldiers surrendering?

You would have to play a campaign in GtC to see that. You will see lowering morale of the units the longer they are engaged with out rest, and the few replacements you'll get will for the most part be inexperienced, which if left alone outside a commander's command radius, will break very easily.

In Pitf however, the high lethality of all the weapons make the act of surrendering a bit of a strange occurrence.

As for the historical morale of the German forces during these operation's time frames, I don't know, maybe some one with an historic knowledge could enlighten us.
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Surrender tends to be fairly rare in the Close Combat game in general. For Panthers in the Fog units on both sides tend to have good experience and morale. For Mortain specifically the German panzer units involved were historically good, motivated troops. The same can't be said for other German battle groups however -- some of the ad-hoc groups and the 708th Infantry division BGs are fairly low quality. The story is much the same for Gateway to Caen, where the German Panzer and SS-Panzer divisions were good troops while other German units are not as good.

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Will The Bloody First retain the load and transport system from GTC?
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It's 2016

You have one set of screen shots and one half ass interview about the game.
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Scared to show what you do or do not have?
Your posts have always been I'm too scared to show what I have because it isn't what I want as a final....And I'm............................(well you fill in the blanks)
No demo
No Beta
No more Screen Shots?



Oh wait!
Maybe your update to this game is setting next to your update to WAR and that's why you cant post anything.........Because you couldn't find it.
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It's not my fault you guys set yourselves up like this?


HISTORY!
What happens when you don't study it?


Your DOOMED to repeat it.
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Platoon_Michael, I respect you but again, you are acting without sense.[:-]
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It's 2016

You have one set of screen shots and one half ass interview about the game.


Does it matter? They released Modern Tactics @ $39.99 with lots of bugs and promised a patch. It's been about 8 years (check the forums) and still no patch. Slithering has dropped the Close Combat ball. They should move this section over to the Shrapnel forums and store it with The 101st Airborne - the game that's been available for pre-order since 2003.
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Two points, Modern Tactics was not developed by Slitherine and Matrix was only the publisher. Now you can ask you Sulla about where is the patch........
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For anyone who plays CCMT make sure you download the mod CC2ReduxVer2 you will find a newer exe that fixes some things. Weird that a new exe exits but Matrix/Slitherine didn't publish it??? [X(]
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For anyone who plays CCMT make sure you download the mod CC2ReduxVer2 you will find a newer exe that fixes some things. Weird that a new exe exits but Matrix/Slitherine didn't publish it??? [X(]
Perhaps my english is wrong but do you know the difference between developer and publisher? because the publisher only publish things made by other people.
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Will weather be more represented than the previous games? In essence, will the terrain have visible effects of rain, etc.?
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To answer some of the questions earlier:

TBF will have mount/dismount and towing of guns.

Rain/snow won't be represented directly in this release -- you won't see rain drops falling or water running across the ground, for example.

Yes, clearly development has taken longer than originally planned. The game will be released when it is ready, as will screen shots, etc.

Thanks,

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Thanks for the feedback Steve. Please take your time for "good things come to those who wait". Or was it "no good things come to those who wait?"[&:]
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hi

no need to check in because nothing has changed...LOL

Matrix did develop Modern Tactics.. wouldn't pay for the update, same for WaR.....

ho hum
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ORIGINAL: schreckenovski

hi

no need to check in because nothing has changed...LOL

Matrix did develop Modern Tactics.. wouldn't pay for the update, same for WaR.....

ho hum
Sorry but you are not telling the true. Matrix did not developed Modern Tactics or War. Both games were developed by Strategy 3 Tactics, Inc. http://www.mobygames.com/company/strategy-3-tactics-inc

Matrix was only the publisher. One thing very different.
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Steve ----- How many people working on the game ?
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Steve---------For Summer or Cristhmas???
heia safari!
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Sorry for the long absence -- my internet connection went down and the ISP took 12 days to fix it.

Working on this game only we have myself and one artist. We have also had up to 1-3 map makers on and off, and a UI artist.

We will likely more to show in another month or two. And I definitely want to hit Christmas this year, at the latest. Note: this is not an official release date announcement by the publisher. :)

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Thaks for the info steve;)
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