Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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The Mud season has come and they havent made a single repair to their railways. In other games they always repair a bit here and there. Is this a bug?

Completely unrelated but, how can I airdrop fuel instead of supplies to an isolated panzer unit?

PS. By the way, all my HQs are locked, but, afaik, that shouldnt stop railway repair units from making their job.

PS2. I have seen the finnish SUs and there isnt a single railway repair unit or labor batallion, so that might exlplain it, but I am sure in other camapigns I have seen finnish repair units¡ (I am now playing the Alt CV campaign)
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RE: Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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1. You need to allocate construction battalions to an HQ within range of the track you want to repair, but not within range of the track you don't. That way you not only repair but prioritise your supply track.

2. Only transports will lift fuel and when available at a base you should be able to toggle between fuel/supplies. Careful with this. IIRC, if you change cargo you will revert to default air units, so choose your cargo before anything else.
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RE: Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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Finns have only 3 construction units, and I think that if a construction unit is used to assist in fort construction then it's not available for rail repair. That's why they are so bad at repair.

In my PBEM game I have seen at most 1 of these units repair rail and it has done so 3-4 times in 15 turns (I have them assigned to armies). So it's hard to stay on Svir river line for long time, you'll be over 50MP from supply source even in clear weather.
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Thank you. I have "fixed" both problems. It was my fault
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RE: Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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morvael, given that Finland used the wide gauge rail, wasn't there some plan to reduce conversion costs or is that WitE2?

You can get two repair units every turn if you handle it right, maybe with one of the surplus corps HQs. It's just a question of micromanaging distances of HQ to broken rail. Pretty sure rail conversion is prioritised by game over digging duties. When they don't show I think it's because leader failed initiative? Even converting a hex a turn you will be way out of supply on the Svir come mud.
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RE: Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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Yes, I realized now empty corps HQ would do the job as it would not waste construction units for fort building.

Damage is reduced when Finns take rail, this was added in 05.
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RE: Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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I leave them in locked Finnish High Command for maximum range rail repair. Once this is done they will be reassigned to Armies or Corps.
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RE: Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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Trouble with that is they usually repair all over the place instead of the line to the Svir. I might put them back in High Command once that repair is complete.
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Let's give the Finns FBD-like unit (smaller), with no units attached. Human player could then attach construction units to it. It will have less MP (I hope that at least 3), but it will allow directed repair. Of course it would only help human player.
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RE: Why Finland isnt doing any railway repair at all?

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I don't know why it would be, but I never have this problem. Niemals.
I plug one into High Command and 2 into Karelian Army.
And the only times I do not notice them working is if I'm moving an HQ a long distance.
I don't know if it's helpful to the algorithm or not, but I do not take land on the Karelian isthmus that I don't need until the railway is 2 hexes away. (I play the AI exclusively.)

The new change to the railway damage is great. The Finnish rail repair is much more worthwhile now.
I just don't think there's much point (personally) in occupying the Karelian. Better to march through Leningrad on your way to holding the Volkhov for Army Group North. They don't have any sustainable offensive combat strength.
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