Can't Rebuild Land Unit.

[chazz]

I have a marine division that I divided, the elements went on various ops and then I brought them back together; now I cant rebuild the unit despite all the units being together, no loose fragments of the unit and all in the same ops mode.

Any clue why this is happening?

[Admiral DadMan]

2 things to check:

1. Are they in the same op mode?
2. Are they in the same HQ?

Both of those conditions must be met for fragments to be combined/re-combined.

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: chazz

I have a marine division that I divided, the elements went on various ops and then I brought them back together; now I cant rebuild the unit despite all the units being together, no loose fragments of the unit and all in the same ops mode.

Any clue why this is happening?

Probably they have different devices. It is passable that one fragment already upgraded equipment or squads and other fragments not.
Look for "=". It show squads/devices that can be upgraded.

Also look in what HQ they are. It must be the same for all fragments.

You can also post screen shots of fragments to help us find why they dont want to rebuild.

[m10bob]

The above info is all correct.
Check to see if one of the regiments has upgraded with better, newer equipment. Once you spot it, at the bottom left mark "Do not upgrade".
This will allow the other regiments to upgrade to catch up.
I keep them all stacked and in heavy supply, same mode,(training)..
At the end of each turn, your event reporter tells you which units have upgraded.If you have really been able to identify the one which has upgraded, you might write down the Rgt numbers of the ones which have no upgraded and catch them once they do upgrade.
Then, mark them to "not upgrade" as you did the first.
Sorry to say but I have waited as much as 2 full months before I was able to put an entire division back together again.
American units get their stuff first and easiest, so your Marines should not need wait for too long.

[chazz]

same command, same op mode. I hadn't considered the upgrading issue. Thanks for that.

EDIT: close examination reveals that one of the three subdivisions of the unit has upgraded to a 57mm AT gun while the other two are sporting the 37mm type. There's no = symbol on the TO&E so I don't know. If one unit upgrades I assume the others eventually will.

Somewhat annoying but c'est la guerre.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: chazz

same command, same op mode. I hadn't considered the upgrading issue. Thanks for that.

EDIT: close examination reveals that one of the three subdivisions of the unit has upgraded to a 57mm AT gun while the other two are sporting the 37mm type. There's no = symbol on the TO&E so I don't know. If one unit upgrades I assume the others eventually will.

Somewhat annoying but c'est la guerre.

Check how many 57mm guns you have in the pool. You need at least the same number that the unit has in order to upgrade.

[rustysi]

ORIGINAL: chazz

same command, same op mode. I hadn't considered the upgrading issue. Thanks for that.

EDIT: close examination reveals that one of the three subdivisions of the unit has upgraded to a 57mm AT gun while the other two are sporting the 37mm type. There's no = symbol on the TO&E so I don't know. If one unit upgrades I assume the others eventually will.

Somewhat annoying but c'est la guerre.

Pretty sure a '*' will tell you an upgrade is possible. A '=' means there are enough devices in the pool to allow the upgrade. No '=' means no upgrade.

A little late obviously, but one thing I do is set divided units to 'no upgrade' to avoid this possibility.

[guytipton41]

ORIGINAL: m10bob

The above info is all correct.
Check to see if one of the regiments has upgraded with better, newer equipment. Once you spot it, at the bottom left mark "Do not upgrade".
This will allow the other regiments to upgrade to catch up.
I keep them all stacked and in heavy supply, same mode,(training)..
At the end of each turn, your event reporter tells you which units have upgraded.If you have really been able to identify the one which has upgraded, you might write down the Rgt numbers of the ones which have no upgraded and catch them once they do upgrade.
Then, mark them to "not upgrade" as you did the first.
Sorry to say but I have waited as much as 2 full months before I was able to put an entire division back together again.
American units get their stuff first and easiest, so your Marines should not need wait for too long.

Hi Folks,

For an Indian division I have waited the best part of two years to get the regiments all to the same equipment level. Darn those 25 pounder guns that you get so few of. I eventually had to start stockpiling the guns on the industry tab until I had enough and then turn off upgrades for all nationalities (Aus, NZ, Brit, Ind, CW) except for the one unit that I was waiting to upgrade. A very painful lesson.

Cheers,
Guy

[chazz]

So I stockpile the 57mm's so they go to the unit I want them to? That would make sense- building up the # so they don't go out in penny packets.

[jmalter]

chazz, you've got it right - set your 57 ATs to stockpile. When your produced guns equal or exceed the # you need, turn that stockpile off.

But at that same time, you must turn off all upgrades / reinforcements to all other LCUs that might be wanting the device. USArmy units are looking for guns from that same production, Chinese units might also share the pool.

[m10bob]

IIRC, at the beginning of loading the game, you may go to "preferences" to turn off those upgrades, and then once you load the scenario, manually turn the one "problem" unit back to upgrade.

(Thank God for spellcheck, LOL)

[btd64]

One of the reasons why I start every game with automatic upgrades and replacements off....GP

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: guytipton41

ORIGINAL: m10bob

The above info is all correct.
Check to see if one of the regiments has upgraded with better, newer equipment. Once you spot it, at the bottom left mark "Do not upgrade".
This will allow the other regiments to upgrade to catch up.
I keep them all stacked and in heavy supply, same mode,(training)..
At the end of each turn, your event reporter tells you which units have upgraded.If you have really been able to identify the one which has upgraded, you might write down the Rgt numbers of the ones which have no upgraded and catch them once they do upgrade.
Then, mark them to "not upgrade" as you did the first.
Sorry to say but I have waited as much as 2 full months before I was able to put an entire division back together again.
American units get their stuff first and easiest, so your Marines should not need wait for too long.

Hi Folks,

For an Indian division I have waited the best part of two years to get the regiments all to the same equipment level. Darn those 25 pounder guns that you get so few of. I eventually had to start stockpiling the guns on the industry tab until I had enough and then turn off upgrades for all nationalities (Aus, NZ, Brit, Ind, CW) except for the one unit that I was waiting to upgrade. A very painful lesson.

Cheers,
Guy

Yes, you have to be very careful about using the stockpile button with all commonwealth units. Not just the 25 pounder that is a problem. 3 in mortars, bren gun carriers, armored cars and especially tanks. You certainly want to have upgrades off for any unit that is going to leave the theater. Nothing like watching a batch of hard to get grant tanks leave the theater.

For the Americans it is really only the 57mm gun that is a problem. Most other devices and squads they have plenty of.

[crsutton]

Don't be afraid to break down a New Zealand or Canadian brigade to get some more 25 pounder guns. It really is of greater importance to fill out your divisions first. And you get the added benefit of buying out the returning units very cheaply when they come back in 180 days and have nothing in them.