Kates not flying

[Lowpe]

Other potential reason why planes might not fly is overcrowding on the carrier, and being stood down for maintenance.

[ny59giants]

My normal 'rule of thumb' is set all my CV air groups at 12k (F, DB, TB) with the fighters at 30 to 50% CAP and maybe 10% Rest. The DBs often have 10% NavS to help them find their targets. Seems to work well for me.

Like Alfred stated, the delta between your Zeros at 15k to your Kates at 5k is too great.

[Justus2]

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

And there is a bit of confusion between:
post #1 : Kates didn't fly and post #12: Kates flew unescorted and got wiped out

most early posts try to deal with possible causes of Kates not flying (fatigue, moral, leadership, wrong settings)

while Alfred's post, after #12, explains why the settings used caused an uncoordinated strike. The Kates did fly, but without fighter escort and suffered accordingly

From his early posts, it sounds like both were true - The Kates didn't fly the first day, then flew unescorted the following day. Both could be caused by the altitude delta, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that one of the checks for the squadron to fly a mission is if there is fighter escort available. If the engine didn't find fighter escorts available (because they were set at a different altitude/committed to the DBs) the squadron leader check needs to decide between not flying (which happened day 1) or flying unescorted (which happened day 2).

[crsutton]

And lastly how are you carrier TFs set up. Are they all in one TF or multiple Tfs

[Lokasenna]

Agree. While I don't think it's impossible for a coordinated strike with altitude settings like that, I'd say it's exceedingly unlikely. Approaching impossible, for sure.

Raise the altitude of the Kates and try again. I get coordinated strikes with Kates/Jills at 9000 and Vals/Zeroes between 10000 and 12000 with no problems. If I want my Vals/Zeroes higher, then I will also raise the altitude of the torpedo bombers. I don't want them to be more than 4000 difference for sure, and try to stay within 2000-3000.

[tiemanjw]

I also noticed the zeros have a target set (TF 113). Will escorts fly to another target if one is set?

[Rising-Sun]

ORIGINAL: Alfred

wdolson,

It isn't a bug.  As per post #12, the Vals and Kates flew with no fighter escorts at all.  The first picture is the situation before the mission was flown.  The second picture is the situation after the mission was flown.

AdmNelson,

You have very poor altitude and assignment selections.  Plenty of posts on the forum from me and others re the correct parameters which should be employed.

1.  Having fighters assigned to 15k altitude with the Vals set to 10K (as per post #7) and the Kates to 5K means it is impossible to ever have a coordinated strike.  The best you can ever realistically hope to achieve is what I describe as a cooperative strike involving Zeros and Vals and that is problematic as the altitude delta of 5k is quite significant.  It would be very rare to get the Zeros ever flying cooperatively with the Kates and then only if the Vals have not launched at all, thereby making the Zeros unemployed and thus available to perhaps cooperate with the Kates.

2.  You have too many Zeros on escort and LRCAP duties to ever have much realistic chance of getting a coordinated strike (were you to set them to the appropriate altitude), let alone a cooperative strike.  In fact, the LRCAP assignment is a waste of time.

Alfred

Alfred, I have done this before what AdmNelson did, nothing wrong setting the group up like this and the way he setup the CAPs, not many escorts will get a chance to form up with Kates/Vals in formations. Also depend on the distance, weather as well commander abilities.