Allied 5-star officers?

[dereck]

Has any Allied player have generals promoted to 5-star ranks? If so, around what date in the game and how many victories did they have?

Thanks

[zakblood]

George Marshall December 16, 1944
Douglas MacArthur December 18, 1944
Dwight D. Eisenhower December 20, 1944
Henry H. Arnold December 21, 1944
Omar Bradley September 22, 1950

real life ones in ww2, so if game mirrors history then don't expect any sooner or if any at all, as top brass are like gold and very rare

[dereck]

I know when they were promoted historically.

GENERALS OF THE ARMY
03-SEP-1919 John J. Pershing (1860-1948)
04-JUL-1976 George Washington (1732-1799)

ADMIRAL OF THE NAVY
24-MAR-1903 George Dewey (1837-1917)

GENERAL OF THE ARMY/ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET
15-DEC-1944 ADM William D. Leahy (1875-1959)
16-DEC-1944 GEN George C. Marshall (1880-1859)
17-DEC-1944 ADM Ernest J. King (1878-1956)
18-DEC-1944 GEN Douglas MacArthur (1880-1864)
19-DEC-1944 ADM Chester W.Nimits (1885-1966)
20-DEC-1944 GEN Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1969)
21-DEC-1944 GEN Henry H. Arnold (1886-1950)
11-DEC-1945 ADM William F. Halsey (1882-1959)
22-SEP-1950 GEN Omar N. Bradley (1893-1981)

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What I want to know, however, is just what it takes in the game to get officers promoted to a 5-star rank. In the game I just finished, which the allies won on 31-MAR-1945 by taking Berlin, I had Eisenhower have over 1,000 victories, Bradley over 600, Alexander over 600, Crocker over 400 and Montgomery over 300 yet none of them advanced further than 4-star rank.

I was using custom settings so obviously there's some setting which affects it which is bogus considering the number of victories they had.

Has ANY Allied player been able to get a 5-star officer?

Thanks.

[Denniss]

Ike has a propotion to General of the Army specified for 12/44, strange it didn't trigger in your game. Maybe he's only promoted if he's asigned to a high command?

Edit: Henry H. Arnold is in the leader DB but his promotion is missing.

[dereck]

All these officers I listed in my game were Army Group or above. Ike and Alexander were in command of SHAEF and AFHQ respectively.

[carlkay58]

I have had both Eisenhower and Patton reach 5 star rank in a single game. Eisenhower was in late 44 and Patton in early (Feb/Mar) 45. I have also had Clark and Bradley reach those levels in some games. I tend not to use Montgomery enough to have him reach that promotion simply because I only use the British when I have to due to their manpower shortage.

I would say that in each case the promotion comes with at least 100 but probably more likely to be 200 victories and well under 50 defeats. I think there are few games where Eisenhower does not reach it by the end of the game as I have Eisenhower transfer and command SHAEF as soon as it is created. Note that SHAEF typically comes in with a different commander (it varies) and you have to manually place Eisenhower in command so many games may not see him leave the MTO where you just will not get the victories the leaders need for the promotions.

It has also occurred to me that I believe only Patton was promoted as an Army Commander while all of the others got their promotions as Army Group Commanders or above.

[dereck]

What settings did you have your game set to?

In my Game Eisenhower had 1,032 victories and 30 defeats so I can't see why at least he didn't get promoted.

The other top 5 officers I had were all High Command or Army Group commanders and between them had 2,079 victories and 63 defeats.

[Joel Billings]

ORIGINAL: Denniss

Ike has a propotion to General of the Army specified for 12/44, strange it didn't trigger in your game. Maybe he's only promoted if he's asigned to a high command?

Edit: Henry H. Arnold is in the leader DB but his promotion is missing.

These scheduled promotions only impact scenarios started after the promotion date. Once a game is started, all promotions must come from the results of the game (or player forced promotions due to putting a leader in a higher command then he is qualified for).

[carlkay58]

dereck - I typically play the Allies vs the Axis Challenging AI. My games against humans are not as lucky - one of my games vs a human Axis saw Patton KIA on turn 4, Bradley KIA on turn 13, and Leese (British) KIA on turn 15. Not a good game for the commanders.

[dereck]

Are there ANY hidden requirements such as having to play on Challenging and not Easy?

I can't believe that among Eisenhower (SHAEF) with 1,032 wins and 30 losses, Bradley (12th US AG) with 658 wins and 11 losses, Alexander (AFHQ) with 624 wins and 28 losses or Crocker (15th AG) with 471 wins and 11 losses I didn't get any of them promoted to 5-star.

Thanks.

[dereck]

ORIGINAL: dereck

Are there ANY hidden requirements such as having to play on Challenging and not Easy?

I can't believe that among Eisenhower (SHAEF) with 1,032 wins and 30 losses, Bradley (12th US AG) with 658 wins and 11 losses, Alexander (AFHQ) with 624 wins and 28 losses or Crocker (15th AG) with 471 wins and 11 losses I didn't get any of them promoted to 5-star.

Thanks.

Can I get an answer of some sort? Can you get officers promoted to 5-star rank on any game setting or only certain onesand if so, which ones?

[LiquidSky]

It seems to me that it is only cosmetic. As it stands, they can be appointed to the highest HQ's in the game anyways. There is no in-game improvement because they become 5-star.

As the supreme ruler of all that is allied, why don't you promote them yourself? Just write it down on a sticky note and put it on your monitor.

[carlkay58]

You can promote leaders yourself when you place them into higher command. On the appointment screen the Admin Pt cost would have a +x notation. Example: 4 + 7 would be 4 Admin Pts for the appointment and 7 Admin Pts for the promotion.

[Joel Billings]

ORIGINAL: dereck

ORIGINAL: dereck

Are there ANY hidden requirements such as having to play on Challenging and not Easy?

I can't believe that among Eisenhower (SHAEF) with 1,032 wins and 30 losses, Bradley (12th US AG) with 658 wins and 11 losses, Alexander (AFHQ) with 624 wins and 28 losses or Crocker (15th AG) with 471 wins and 11 losses I didn't get any of them promoted to 5-star.

Thanks.

Can I get an answer of some sort? Can you get officers promoted to 5-star rank on any game setting or only certain onesand if so, which ones?

I'd be surprised if there are any play level restrictions or direct impact on promotions. It's possible that the chance of all promotions is impacted by a play level setting, although I'm not aware of any. I'm pretty confident that a promotion will not be restricted due to any play level setting.

[dereck]

Joel, hate to beat this over and over but one more question.

Do you need POSITIVE victory points to get a 5-star officer promoted? I play against the AI so I'm just trying to see if I can get to Berlin before they historically did and I'm not bombing for victory points.

Thanks

[carlkay58]

NO, I have had negative VPs and had Clark promoted to FGEN in July/August 43.

[dereck]

ORIGINAL: carlkay58

NO, I have had negative VPs and had Clark promoted to FGEN in July/August 43.

Thank you carlkay58 but a FGEN is actually a GENERAL (4 stars). I'm talking about a 5-star General of the Army or British Field Marshall.