Pagan Today
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- JohnDillworth
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what a pretty Island. With the remains of Japanese aircraft scattered about.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/2 ... 42168.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/2 ... 42168.html
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RE: Pagan Today
This is ridiculous. I'm sure that there are other islands the military could use.
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Bombing is actually very good for conservation. It does little actual damage and precludes any economic development, which is the main cause of environmental loss. The Australian Government a few years ago was considering exploring for natural resources in Shoalwater Bay, which had been a military training area and bombing range for decades. The greenies protested, on the grounds of its pristine wilderness characteristics.
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On the opposite side, I think the government of the Mariana's would be foolish to turn this down.
Immediate $$$ inflow into a struggling economy in trade for an essentially unoccupied and potentially dangerous piece of real estate.
Then, in future years, the US Government will no doubt spend additional $$$ to "clean up" and rehabilitate the island.
When it is all said and done, the government of the Mariana's is simply going to rent the island to the Marines for a few decades and reap a windfall of cash. And while that is going on, maybe the volcano will settle down -- because there is no other use for the island until that stability occurs.
The only population with standing to truly object is the tree snails.
Regards,
Feltan
Immediate $$$ inflow into a struggling economy in trade for an essentially unoccupied and potentially dangerous piece of real estate.
Then, in future years, the US Government will no doubt spend additional $$$ to "clean up" and rehabilitate the island.
When it is all said and done, the government of the Mariana's is simply going to rent the island to the Marines for a few decades and reap a windfall of cash. And while that is going on, maybe the volcano will settle down -- because there is no other use for the island until that stability occurs.
The only population with standing to truly object is the tree snails.
Regards,
Feltan
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Oh, dude, you are so right. San Clemente Island has been a USN live-fire and USN/USMC bombing range since 1934. There are several endangered and indigenous species on the island. The military is quite sensitive to their existence. We have a sailboat race, every year, that uses San Clements Island as a rounding mark. The military graciously adjusts their operations to accommodate heo race.ORIGINAL: Feltan
On the opposite side, I think the government of the Mariana's would be foolish to turn this down.
Immediate $$$ inflow into a struggling economy in trade for an essentially unoccupied and potentially dangerous piece of real estate.
Then, in future years, the US Government will no doubt spend additional $$$ to "clean up" and rehabilitate the island.
When it is all said and done, the government of the Mariana's is simply going to rent the island to the Marines for a few decades and reap a windfall of cash. And while that is going on, maybe the volcano will settle down -- because there is no other use for the island until that stability occurs.
The only population with standing to truly object is the tree snails.
Regards,
Feltan
I have found that military professionals are not just a pack of Nazi goons, like some of you would like to think. They personally care as much as anyone about where their warheads impact and what kind of damage it does.
The original article is from a penis challenged, brainless, wanna be blogger that thinks his useless nonsense will hit on social media. and his dick will get bigger, and he'll be able to get girls. Have no respect, at all, for that kind of trash, I won't even bother to reference it.
Thoughtful people, on both sides, can probably make it happen. And make it happen righteously. So long as one keeps the assholes out of the equation. J
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- HansBolter
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Gotta agree with Symon.
And I'm sorry if you find this offensive John, but I'm embarrassed for the forum to have a link to anything published by The Huff and Puff post.
And I'm sorry if you find this offensive John, but I'm embarrassed for the forum to have a link to anything published by The Huff and Puff post.
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I drive in and out of a bombing range from time to time for work and I'll see more wildlife in an hour on the bombing range then I will in the 10 hours previous of varied farmland and forested area's. All you gotta do to let nature thrive is severely limit human activity. The occasional bomb is way less destructive then unending hoards of weekend offroaders and campers and people going fishing.
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ORIGINAL: Feltan
The only population with standing to truly object is the tree snails.
Regards,
Feltan
Speaking of snails, have you been on the south side of the Columbia river valley? There's dozens of waterfalls like this:
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Well, I see at least three good bombing targets.
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Feltan
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And there's these huge Banana Slugs all over the place like these
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Truly the most disgusting slug is , without a doubt , the couch slug!
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ORIGINAL: geofflambert
Speaking of snails, have you been on the south side of the Columbia river valley? There's dozens of waterfalls like this:
You mean the Columbia River Gorge? I live within a couple of miles of the entrance to the Gorge. West of the Cascades from about Eugene, OR north there are massive slugs. They can get up to about 4 inches in length.
The waterfalls in the Gorge were created by the Missoula River Flood, which is the largest flood in the geologic record. It was originally thought to have just been one flood, but its now believed to have been a series of massive floods, each one a little smaller than the last. The largest of them sent a wall of water 1500 ft (500 M) high down the Gorge. It sheered off the lower portion of a number of valleys with rivers in them that flowed into the Columbia which turned them into waterfalls. It was a massive event with scars visible everywhere around here today.
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I usually don't listen to you Science types, but that slug called AW1Steve is pretty scary. I normally consume such as him, but I just can't stand belly hair. What's a gorn to do?
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It's probably past his beddy bye time, it certainly is for me, but I'm pretty sure that the offending organism is another forum denizen who he will not name. It couldn't be me as I have scales rather than hair.
So who is that piece of work with the faded lime-green trousers?
So who is that piece of work with the faded lime-green trousers?
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Bill, you're supposed to be protecting children like me from stuff like that. I won't tell if you won't, but what about the small young gorns who don't know anything better? They came to this planet expecting a decent education and you give them what? They now know what gorns are, thanks to you. I wanted them to become astronauts, or lawyers or physicians. Or taxidermists. Above all.
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Isn't the B52 (long) retired? The author greatly reduces his credibility with has sensationalist style and lack of attention to details.