Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Lowpe (J)

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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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Got the turn from Olorin. Looks like with the the sync bug on the very first turn. Manila was hit a lot harder then in my replay. Numerous Subs hit. PH was also hit a lot harder. West Virginia will likely sink next turn with 89 FLT.

Dragon and Danae wasn´t even hit. Durban will sink tomorrow. That all I could find at a quick glance.
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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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Got the turn from Olorin. Looks like with the the sync bug on the very first turn. Manila was hit a lot harder then in my replay. Numerous Subs hit. PH was also hit a lot harder. West Virginia will likely sink next turn with 89 FLT.

Dragon and Danae wasn´t even hit. Durban will sink tomorrow. That all I could find at a quick glance.

Synch bug on first turn? Oof. I'd check and triple-check you guys are on the same patch, pwhex, etc.
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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Got the turn from Olorin. Looks like with the the sync bug on the very first turn. Manila was hit a lot harder then in my replay. Numerous Subs hit. PH was also hit a lot harder. West Virginia will likely sink next turn with 89 FLT.

Dragon and Danae wasn´t even hit. Durban will sink tomorrow. That all I could find at a quick glance.

Synch bug on first turn? Oof. I'd check and triple-check you guys are on the same patch, pwhex, etc.

Yeah, we did that before we started but I´ll double check again. Havn´t gotten the CR from Olorin yet so I´m not sure how much that differs yet. But PH + Manila + the CLs are pretty big differences.

EDIT: Seem like I got the correct CR with the turn file. I now how a different version in the main directory from the one in my archive.
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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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Personally, I would demand a turn with the results I witnessed.

This "sync bug" BS is for the birds.

I don't believe it is a bug.

It's a diabolical conspiracy on the part of JFBs to dupe AFBs into accepting so called "real turns" that have way, way more damage to Allied forces than the Allied player witnessed in the replay.

The replay IS the turn and if the Japanese players are sending the Allied players saved games that don't reflect the turn the Allied player witnessed then they are simply cheating, no ifs ands or buts.

All cheating Japanese players should be banned.

Now that our unequivocal position has been stated you can return to your normal program. [:D]












p.s. for any of you too dense to grasp it the aforegoing WAS tongue-in-cheek parody.
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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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[font="Verdana"]Pearl Harbour[/font]
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Here is the damage done. It was indeed Tennessee that was sunk after a magazine explosion. [X(] Overall not too bad from an allied perspective. Force Z is safe and sound just outside Medan.

Things will get worse though. I have a huge fleet of 40+ ships approaching Mersing. Dragon will be scuttled with 90 Fires raging.

I´ll be leaving town again on Friday for the entire weekend. Really want to send the turn to Olorin before I leave. Hopefully I can get it done! I´ll start with the most important first and then work my way backwards.

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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You had me up to the p.s. [:'(]
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You had me up to the p.s. [:'(]
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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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Now this is interesting...Wake invasion diverted to Midway? Or just bad DL and its the KB oilers? I´m thinking they should be further to the North it was...


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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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Olorin is a bit hesitant to send me the combatreport.txt as he thinks it it subject to FoW. I know there are a million threads about this on the forum but my search skills fail me. Can someone with search-fu abilities find a thread where its explained so I can show Nick its alright to send me his combatreport.txt?

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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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PoW - probably has the best AA available until after 10/42 upgrades of any Allied ship.

This also. It's a good AA boat, and isn't that much slower than your CVs. Without double-checking, I think it's a speed match for the North Carolinas/South Dakotas?

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[font="Verdana"]Pearl Harbour[/font]
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Here is the damage done. It was indeed Tennessee that was sunk after a magazine explosion. [X(] Overall not too bad from an allied perspective. Force Z is safe and sound just outside Medan.

Things will get worse though. I have a huge fleet of 40+ ships approaching Mersing. Dragon will be scuttled with 90 Fires raging.

I´ll be leaving town again on Friday for the entire weekend. Really want to send the turn to Olorin before I leave. Hopefully I can get it done! I´ll start with the most important first and then work my way backwards.

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Not too bad on VPs, no... but those BBs are going to take ages to fix. That's a ton of damage, even if 20-30 points of the flooding is minor on those guys. The 50+ Sys on California/Arizona is a nightmare.

The rest of your ships got off light, though, and BB Maryland is pretty decent with 16" guns - and she'll be ready very soon. You only have to knock off 2 points of the flooding and then she can coast on pier side the rest of the way.


As for the combat report text file... I just know from experience that it's the same. Couldn't tell you where it's 'splained. It is subject to FoW in the sense that it's never 100% accurate, but it does display the same things to both players. It's the graphical part of the replay that doesn't (notably the air search phase).
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Not too bad on VPs, no... but those BBs are going to take ages to fix. That's a ton of damage, even if 20-30 points of the flooding is minor on those guys. The 50+ Sys on California/Arizona is a nightmare.

The rest of your ships got off light, though, and BB Maryland is pretty decent with 16" guns - and she'll be ready very soon. You only have to knock off 2 points of the flooding and then she can coast on pier side the rest of the way.


As for the combat report text file... I just know from experience that it's the same. Couldn't tell you where it's 'splained. It is subject to FoW in the sense that it's never 100% accurate, but it does display the same things to both players. It's the graphical part of the replay that doesn't (notably the air search phase).

Yeah, they will probably be gone until mid 43. But I don´t really care about that. They are too slow and drink too much fuel to be of much use early on.

Yeah, I know too its perfectly fine to send the Japanese CR. In fact all my Japanese opponents have done so. But I can´t just demand Olorin to take my word on it. [:D]
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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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Making good progress on the turn. Only US and OZ Naval and land left. [:)]

Also got the CR from Olorin so that is sorted out. One of the worst cases of sync problems I have suffered. Almost nothing matches. [X(] If this doesn´t sort itself out next turn we are going to exchange files just to be 100% sure.

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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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[font="Verdana"]December 8th 1942[/font]
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Now this is exciting! [:)]

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CENTPAC
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Olorin comes in for a second day of attacks over Pearl. USAAF is present this time around and AA takes its toll on the attackers. No torpedoes are launched.
Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 44 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
B5N2 Kate x 87
D3A1 Val x 80

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-36A Mohawk x 39
P-40B Warhawk x 56
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
SNJ-3 Texan x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 10 destroyed, 31 damaged
D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 2 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SNJ-3 Texan: 1 destroyed
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed on ground


Allied Ships
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 6
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dale, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 4, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 3, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 5
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 1


We also have some very interesting developments a little further North! [X(]
Ground combat at Midway Island (158,91)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2684 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Defending force 1864 troops, 37 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 32

Japanese adjusted assault: 46

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Midway Island !!! [X(] [X(]

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 7 destroyed [:(]

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
602 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 44 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
2650 casualties reported
Squads: 41 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 128 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 37 (37 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
Kimura Det /1
Sasebo 2nd SNLF /1
Kure 1st SNLF /1


Defending units:
6th Marine Defense Battalion
116th Base Group

And even further North we have more very interesting developments...to be continued.

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I thought your turn wasn't going to get done so quickly.[:)]
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That's a pain in the butt! Two SNLFs but what's this Kimura detachment?

You do want him stretching out into the Pacific, but ... this is disconcerting on turn 2. [:D]
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Is Olorin channeling his inner John 3rd?? [:D]

Lose of Midway hurts in many ways as I'm finding out. Unable to shuttle PBYs through Dutch Harbor to Midway to Pearl and beyond. Great place to have an AS and increase his sub presence off California. Possible SC TF raiding shipping to and from Pearl from USA.
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First time I have ever lost Midway in fact. Will certainly be interesting to see why he wants it...just to delay and cause mischief or part of something bigger?
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NORPAC
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Hard to tell what this is with only the replay. Looks like a invasion for Dutch and a Cold Bay? Or possibly even Kodiak?

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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

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DEI
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Big landing at Mersing!

-4th ID and 33rd ID.
-22nd Recon Rgt.
-7th Tank rgt,
-11th, 21st, 42nd, 55th, 56th and 114th Infantry Rgt unloading.
-25th Army HQ


So about 5 IDs worth of strength [X(] Singapore is not going to stand even the first attack...so he wants that out of the way fast. Most likely to free up troops. Could this be the prelude of an India adventure?

I managed to sneak a DM and a CM into Mersing and dropped 100 mines. They were both sunk in the process but something hit a mine during the replay. The RAF sortied against the landing but failed to break through. Buffs did what they could in the air but 2 Zero sweeps cleared the skies.

Around PI a big SCTF is guarding the entrance to Manila. I guess nothing is going to get through. The MKB moved into the Celebes Sea and sank 3 xAKLs. Kaga moved at full speed ending up north of Tarakan. A strike was launched at the "Four stackers" hiding there under a CAP.
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 67,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N1 Kate x 12

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


Allied Ships
DD Alden
DD John D. Edwards
DD Whipple


I´m guessing Kaga will join the MKB tomorrow making sure the destruction of the Manila shipping will go on unmolested.

Some escorted strikes went for the shipping at Manila.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Manila at 79,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak


No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Tantalus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Hai Kwang
AV Langley
xAP Don Esteban, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

We also caused our first casualty!
Sub attack near Terempa at 54,82

Japanese Ships
xAK Kyokko Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #2
SC Ch 14
xAK Taibun Maru
xAK Ryugi Maru
xAK Kisogawa Maru
xAK Awajisan Maru
xAK Ryuyo Maru
xAK Daigen Maru
xAK Kyokusei Maru
xAKL Matsutan Maru
xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Shonan Maru #2
PB Shonan Maru #1
PB Kyo Maru #13


Allied Ships
SS KXIII

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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