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RE: Midget sub penetrates harbor!
You have until 12/44 before the Chinese get the P-51Ds. So you can feast on the P-40 models until then. [:D]
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
You have until 12/44 before the Chinese get the P-51Ds. So you can feast on the P-40 models until then. [:D]
Not true, he will fly Spitfires there. It is a once and done thing, bouncing around. I spotted my next target, but short supplies today. Pity.
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I am sweeping over the embattled troops holding the jungle ridge terrain west of Raheng, I should catch something there.
Then it will be an assault on two different rear area bases that have plenty of transports and no fighters. My kind of target.
Hope to attack Chungking in 4 days again.
My first Tabby squadron shows up in 9 days. I have set production to 20 for now, a second squadron shows in 39 more days.
Then it will be an assault on two different rear area bases that have plenty of transports and no fighters. My kind of target.
Hope to attack Chungking in 4 days again.
My first Tabby squadron shows up in 9 days. I have set production to 20 for now, a second squadron shows in 39 more days.
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Medan
What a jewel with 200 oil and refineries present. Why in the world he hasn't bombed it back to the stone ages is beyond me...certainly close enough to Port Blair and their size 8 facilities.
Still, If it were me I would be night bombing any industry within range with those 4E beasts he has. He seems satisfied to use them in the ground/air/port strikes.
I am not complaining! Although, I bet my pixelated ground pounders are![:D]
What a jewel with 200 oil and refineries present. Why in the world he hasn't bombed it back to the stone ages is beyond me...certainly close enough to Port Blair and their size 8 facilities.
Still, If it were me I would be night bombing any industry within range with those 4E beasts he has. He seems satisfied to use them in the ground/air/port strikes.
I am not complaining! Although, I bet my pixelated ground pounders are![:D]
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Spitfires are NOT flown by Chinese. [:-] I answered the question you asked. [;)]
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Spitfires are NOT flown by Chinese. [:-] I answered the question you asked. [;)]
I meant that the British will show up with a squadron of Spitfires. He has already flown Thunderbolts in once or twice.
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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Now that you are destroying units at Chungking, you might make a slight effort to note which are being destroyed. Keep in mind that any Corps destroyed will respawn with 1/3 of TOE in 30 days' time. So if you wait too long, it can be detrimental.
When do you start bombing the troops with all you've got? [;)]
Not enough aviation support!
I think I may be getting close - I will count the bomber squadrons next turn. I worry about a long range strike at my scattered airforces, but I think I have CAP up everywhere within 20 hexes of Lashio, but still there is no stopping massed 4E bombers.
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RE: Midget sub penetrates harbor!
Is it possible he covets it for capture so he doesn't have to haul fuel from middle east?
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Medan
What a jewel with 200 oil and refineries present. Why in the world he hasn't bombed it back to the stone ages is beyond me...certainly close enough to Port Blair and their size 8 facilities.
Still, If it were me I would be night bombing any industry within range with those 4E beasts he has. He seems satisfied to use them in the ground/air/port strikes.
I am not complaining! Although, I bet my pixelated ground pounders are![:D]
Andy M
RE: Midget sub penetrates harbor!
ORIGINAL: topeverest
Is it possible he covets it for capture so he doesn't have to haul fuel from middle east?
I guess anything is possible, but how hard is it to dump off in this theatre. Surely, in a scenario 1 game the economy, and oil should be target number 1.
But, he isn't doing to badly in kicking my butt on the ground, so that may simply be his focus.[:)]
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Dec 18, 1943
No night bombing. Good thing too, since both NF squadrons are upgrading to the Irving Sa. One at Singers and the other at Clark AF.
Allies content themselves with bombarding on the approaches to Raheng and Bangkok. I have a 5-1 advantage in AV on the road to Bangkok, 1000-200, JR terrain however, and the Allied units are tanks. I have 4 heavy artillery (20cm or greater) there as well, plus goodly supply. Should I attack or simply bombard? He may be moving in additional troops this turn...making me think the bombardment is the safe tactic. Of course they are getting bombed by the Allied air forces, but not too badly. Three infantry divisions are providing the attacking AV, but only one of them has IJA 43 squads.
Lilly divebombers get some more destroyers.[:)] These really are must have planes for the Allies, nice fairly long strike out of Truk. Another squadron is in Rabaul. I lost 4 to Flak...Allied flak is tough even in stock games if you fly low enough.
I know that squadron was looking to raid along the New Guinea coast or bombard one of my air fields, either way, well done!
No night bombing. Good thing too, since both NF squadrons are upgrading to the Irving Sa. One at Singers and the other at Clark AF.
Allies content themselves with bombarding on the approaches to Raheng and Bangkok. I have a 5-1 advantage in AV on the road to Bangkok, 1000-200, JR terrain however, and the Allied units are tanks. I have 4 heavy artillery (20cm or greater) there as well, plus goodly supply. Should I attack or simply bombard? He may be moving in additional troops this turn...making me think the bombardment is the safe tactic. Of course they are getting bombed by the Allied air forces, but not too badly. Three infantry divisions are providing the attacking AV, but only one of them has IJA 43 squads.
Lilly divebombers get some more destroyers.[:)] These really are must have planes for the Allies, nice fairly long strike out of Truk. Another squadron is in Rabaul. I lost 4 to Flak...Allied flak is tough even in stock games if you fly low enough.
I know that squadron was looking to raid along the New Guinea coast or bombard one of my air fields, either way, well done!
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Why in the world he hasn't bombed it back to the stone ages is beyond me
Maybe he thinks he will have an AV on 1st January 1945 and you won't have run out of fuel/supply before then?
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ORIGINAL: Spidery
Why in the world he hasn't bombed it back to the stone ages is beyond me
Maybe he thinks he will have an AV on 1st January 1945 and you won't have run out of fuel/supply before then?
Could be.
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Dec 19, 1943
No night bombing. I have a Sentai of Helens set to night bomb Port Blair, but no go.
Big air battles over Indochina. Georges sweep the Allied CAP that bleeds over (or is LRCAP) on the dirt road west of Raheng. The Georges really chew into the Allied fighters.
Good thing, too, since the sweeping Corsairs nail some Japanese LRCAP over the troops north of Bangkok, The Tonies suffer, but they last long enough to nail a few bombers and escorts.
Overall a very 1-1 day, I will take it!
In the Pacific, Yap gets bombed heavily. He seems to be leaving Saipan alone.
Japan bombs and bombards Chungking, inflicting great damage. Raw Chinese AV is dropping from day to day, and stands now at a scant 2700. Tomorrow I march the resting divisions back in, and attack in 3 days time with 5200+ AV.
Got another double ace this day flying a George, but it was over the Moulmein/Bangkok road.
No night bombing. I have a Sentai of Helens set to night bomb Port Blair, but no go.
Big air battles over Indochina. Georges sweep the Allied CAP that bleeds over (or is LRCAP) on the dirt road west of Raheng. The Georges really chew into the Allied fighters.
Good thing, too, since the sweeping Corsairs nail some Japanese LRCAP over the troops north of Bangkok, The Tonies suffer, but they last long enough to nail a few bombers and escorts.
Overall a very 1-1 day, I will take it!
In the Pacific, Yap gets bombed heavily. He seems to be leaving Saipan alone.
Japan bombs and bombards Chungking, inflicting great damage. Raw Chinese AV is dropping from day to day, and stands now at a scant 2700. Tomorrow I march the resting divisions back in, and attack in 3 days time with 5200+ AV.
Got another double ace this day flying a George, but it was over the Moulmein/Bangkok road.
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For the day, losses in the air.
I am definitely on the path to losing a huge amount of planes. In Obvert vs Jock they lost 48K and 24K frames respectively....I think I can exceed those totals, especially if the game lasts that long which is kind of doubtful.
I am definitely on the path to losing a huge amount of planes. In Obvert vs Jock they lost 48K and 24K frames respectively....I think I can exceed those totals, especially if the game lasts that long which is kind of doubtful.
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On the ground in Indochina:
Tavoy: IJA forces soundly beat off an attack by a Division plus Gardner's Horse and a bunch of mountain guns. No fort reduction. I can expect aerial bombing here next, I guess. Outnumbered 2-1 in raw AV. The 4th Division (or most of it) is one hex due east of Tavoy, but I am hesitant to march them there thru the jungle for fear of naval bombardments. Better to have them as a reserve I think.
Bangkok to Moulmein dirt road: 5 Divisions plus 1 Chinese Corp bombard the 3 IJA division defenders. Thanks to many heavy artillery units there Japan comes out ahead; while our bombardment also inflicts even more damage. Allies bomb heavily. By the end of the day supply is short. Outnumbered 3-1 in raw AV.
Raheng/Moulmein road: Allies bombard...and lose. Only 3 Divisions here, but the Allies have several artillery units too. Supply is strong...outnumbered 2-1 in raw AV.
Uttaradit: The hex to the north is held with almost 1000 AV of IJA troops, no sign the Allies are looking to cross the river, no aerial bombing. Looks strong here, but they will have to retreat if I am forced back to Raheng.
I am moving the 2nd Guards to Moulmein/Bangkock road plus another heavy artillery unit.
The 13 units the comprise the beaten and bloody defenders of Chiang Mai are one day away from the jungle hex immediately to the north of Raheng.[:)] They have been getting supply, and these troops need a little R&R and then back to the front for them.
Tavoy: IJA forces soundly beat off an attack by a Division plus Gardner's Horse and a bunch of mountain guns. No fort reduction. I can expect aerial bombing here next, I guess. Outnumbered 2-1 in raw AV. The 4th Division (or most of it) is one hex due east of Tavoy, but I am hesitant to march them there thru the jungle for fear of naval bombardments. Better to have them as a reserve I think.
Bangkok to Moulmein dirt road: 5 Divisions plus 1 Chinese Corp bombard the 3 IJA division defenders. Thanks to many heavy artillery units there Japan comes out ahead; while our bombardment also inflicts even more damage. Allies bomb heavily. By the end of the day supply is short. Outnumbered 3-1 in raw AV.
Raheng/Moulmein road: Allies bombard...and lose. Only 3 Divisions here, but the Allies have several artillery units too. Supply is strong...outnumbered 2-1 in raw AV.
Uttaradit: The hex to the north is held with almost 1000 AV of IJA troops, no sign the Allies are looking to cross the river, no aerial bombing. Looks strong here, but they will have to retreat if I am forced back to Raheng.
I am moving the 2nd Guards to Moulmein/Bangkock road plus another heavy artillery unit.
The 13 units the comprise the beaten and bloody defenders of Chiang Mai are one day away from the jungle hex immediately to the north of Raheng.[:)] They have been getting supply, and these troops need a little R&R and then back to the front for them.
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A look at upcoming Allied planes, not too bad mostly British.
For Japan, I am looking at getting Tabby, Frank a, Nick d (Night fighter). Looking forward to all three of these planes.
Then in April the 2nd Jack with four cannons. Really looking forward to that plane.
Then in July/August the final George.
Then in Dec the Ki202, and in Jan 45 the Sam J. Pretty big assumptions here.[:D] Speaking of the Ki202 they repaired 2 points of factory last turn, I am waiting for my first 3 point day!
Frank R depends how hard I push for it once the Frank a comes on line (i.e. how many factories I put on r&d). Late first quarter 44, early 2nd quarter 44?
For Japan, I am looking at getting Tabby, Frank a, Nick d (Night fighter). Looking forward to all three of these planes.
Then in April the 2nd Jack with four cannons. Really looking forward to that plane.
Then in July/August the final George.
Then in Dec the Ki202, and in Jan 45 the Sam J. Pretty big assumptions here.[:D] Speaking of the Ki202 they repaired 2 points of factory last turn, I am waiting for my first 3 point day!
Frank R depends how hard I push for it once the Frank a comes on line (i.e. how many factories I put on r&d). Late first quarter 44, early 2nd quarter 44?
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RE: Midget sub penetrates harbor!
FM-2s stay in the pool. My CVEs all get the Hellcats while the CV/CVLs get the Hellcats as minimum and the highest experienced get the carrier capable Corsairs.
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RE: Midget sub penetrates harbor!
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
FM-2s stay in the pool. My CVEs all get the Hellcats while the CV/CVLs get the Hellcats as minimum and the highest experienced get the carrier capable Corsairs.
+1
Pretty much the biggest allied benefit of PDU ON. Never used the FM-1 or the FM-2.
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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
FM-2s stay in the pool. My CVEs all get the Hellcats while the CV/CVLs get the Hellcats as minimum and the highest experienced get the carrier capable Corsairs.
+1
Pretty much the biggest allied benefit of PDU ON. Never used the FM-1 or the FM-2.
Absolutely not pleasant, you guys. I am guessing I will see this plane as rear area CAP.
This next day we are going for transports in a daring daytime raid of Akyab.
I safely secured another double ace into Tracom for redeployment to night fighters eventually.
I am trying for a night bombing raid on Port Blair, perhaps I can damage some Spitfires on the ground, or destroy transports. Really, I will take any plane destroyed at this point, I am not picky.
I lost another small xap near Leyte, well pretty far from Leyte/Yap. She got torpedoed twice in two days, and that stretch of water is very dangerous. I dispatched six E's to try and rescue her but too late, interestingly, the America Maru (a 2vp PB) picked up most of the engineers despite not having any troop transport capability.
An Iboat put two into a large xak going to Pearl. Another Iboat missed a juicy LST off the West Coast.
Meanwhile, I am making huge oil runs from Singers to Hong Kong. Lesser ones to Camh Ran Bay. And these runs so far are pretty safe. Knock on wood.
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Saishu To...a nice little present seeing their command structure.[:)]
Once the Allies crushed me in the Marianas, if they would have pushed something into this area, or along the New Guinea coast, they really could have done Japan significant damage.
Really, almost anything they could have tried would work. Small destroyer raids. Prowling around with a small carrier force. Sending in sub transported troops. Plus, a lot of the Islands were open for the grabbing.
Instead they took a breather. Now, I realize they would like to upgrade the Carrier planes to Corsairs, fix minor damage, do recon and build up prep, but boy the damage they could have done! On the other hand I am sure they are worried about overextending...I have sunk well over 1000 ships.
If they would have pushed, I suspect I would not be in position to attempt to take Chungking, the retreat of my forward defences would have been hamstrung, my ability to hit back at the Allies currently is rather pathetic. Supplies to Indochina could have been threatened.
I am not sure that it really will mean much...as the Allies will come with overwhelming force eventually, but it would have been very tense and exciting.[:)]
Once the Allies crushed me in the Marianas, if they would have pushed something into this area, or along the New Guinea coast, they really could have done Japan significant damage.
Really, almost anything they could have tried would work. Small destroyer raids. Prowling around with a small carrier force. Sending in sub transported troops. Plus, a lot of the Islands were open for the grabbing.
Instead they took a breather. Now, I realize they would like to upgrade the Carrier planes to Corsairs, fix minor damage, do recon and build up prep, but boy the damage they could have done! On the other hand I am sure they are worried about overextending...I have sunk well over 1000 ships.
If they would have pushed, I suspect I would not be in position to attempt to take Chungking, the retreat of my forward defences would have been hamstrung, my ability to hit back at the Allies currently is rather pathetic. Supplies to Indochina could have been threatened.
I am not sure that it really will mean much...as the Allies will come with overwhelming force eventually, but it would have been very tense and exciting.[:)]
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