Avian aggression leads to murder most fowl - Sqz(A) vs. Chickenboy(J)

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If he has tried Australia and India and is not going all-out for them, the areas left to go after are SoPac and NorPac. I would expect NorPac because there are some VPs to be gained quickly up there, if that is his plan. It is hard for the Allies to defend in 1942 because of the scattered bases with little development.

He could try for Hawaii, but the islands are usually well protected by August 1942, and LOCs are much closer for the Allies than for Japan.
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August 4/42:

An interesting development today. Bezwada has been abandoned by the Japanese. I've ordered a light armoured regiment to race for the base and once possession is gained reinforcing units will be railed in to quickly consolidate Bezwada. This doesn't affect my operations against Mangalore or Bangalore, but it does mean I can immediately start prepping more units for Madras.

In other news, Japanese forces are moving all over China. The big push is on.

Another ship lost to Japanese submarine attack, this time an xAP carrying reinforcements to Diego Garcia. I provided inadequate escorts and will actually withdraw this TF back to Cape Town without unloading at DG. The risk of Japanese naval interdiction from Ceylon is too high to risk the troops and ships.

Thoughts:

Securing and undefended Bezwada is huge. It speeds up the Allied timetable to move against other objectives in India. As stated earlier, Madras is really the prize I'm after and I have allotted six Allied divisions to it's capture. In the meantime, I've begun preparing a plan to swing wide of Calcutta and secure the rail line to move against Darjeeling and Dimapur. It will be difficult logistically, but I now believe it is imperative to get support to China via Ledo. If I can stretch Andre's defence, there will be opportunities to exploit.

Australia is another theatre that will heat up in a month or two. The plan is a massive amphibious assault against Broome with the objective of landing enough troops and supply to allow a land campaign against Darwin. Securing Northern Australia before the end of 1942 will stretch Japan's defensive capabilities, especially with such a heavy commitment of ground forces in India and China. If I can force Andre to reinforce the DEI to counter the threat of moving against his oil centres, there will be opportunities to push back in the Central and Southeast Pacific. If all goes well and I avoid AV before the year is out, Allied attention will shift to a series of echelon type attacks against Japan's perimeter to cause a breakdown in the defence and any weakness to be exploited. I know I'm not strong enough right now to mount a deep penetration of Japan's perimeter, and won't be for some time, but setting the stage to do so in late 43 is the goal that I am working towards.

However, this is all contingent on avoiding AV in 1943. I'm not out of the woods yet.
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Please post the VP totals! The world wonders.
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Just got caught up. Really no way he will be able to pull out AV that I can see. Now that you are getting some men and ships VPs might run about even for the rest of 1942 with some good play on your behalf. Japanese player really has to take all of India to pull off an AV. If he is smart, he will throw any thought of AV out the window and start thinking about how to play a long campaign. I give Kaga less than a 50/50 chance but it does not matter. That is a battle cruiser hull and four torpedo hits plus the damage you pulled off with your raid means a year in the yard. And he is going to have to get her out of Columbo in order to save her. Good luck with that...
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Just got caught up. Really no way he will be able to pull out AV that I can see. Now that you are getting some men and ships VPs might run about even for the rest of 1942 with some good play on your behalf. Japanese player really has to take all of India to pull off an AV. If he is smart, he will throw any thought of AV out the window and start thinking about how to play a long campaign. I give Kaga less than a 50/50 chance but it does not matter. That is a battle cruiser hull and four torpedo hits plus the damage you pulled off with your raid means a year in the yard. And he is going to have to get her out of Columbo in order to save her. Good luck with that...

[&:] I scanned this AAR back to page 10 looking for mention of four torpedo hits on Kaga and didn't see them. Could you point me to the post where that occurred please?
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It's about 2/3rds of the way down page 7
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You can make up several thousands of these points simply by building up bases. Look at all big multiplier bases and don't forget there are some in Russia, Alsaska, the deep So Pac area (Tahiti) and those in the deep IO (Socotra), and Canberra. If you get to over 10k there is very little chance of AV, especially since you'e gaining ground in other areas.
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It's about 2/3rds of the way down page 7
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August of last year - no wonder I had no recollection! Thanks for the reminder![:)]

I know the pace of the game is slow and it's hard to maintain a rhythm for people following. Hard to believe that was way back in August RT, let alone March 30th of game time. I'm just glad people are still following. [&o]
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Just got caught up. Really no way he will be able to pull out AV that I can see.

Glad you had a chance to catch up. I think I'm worried about VP's because of events in China. Supply, or lack of, is becoming a real issue and there are holes starting to appear in my defence. The Chinese could fall apart at any minute and Andre is going to harvest a lot of VP's when that happens. I need to offset losses in China with gains in India and prevent any further Japanese expansion in the Pacific. I know Andre has a ways to go yet to achieve a 4:1, but I'm still awfully nervous.
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Thanks for all the posts of late. I know following a single sided AAR isn't always fun, and with the slow pace of this game it's hard to maintain the flow to keep people engaged. We keep plugging away and seem to go in spurts depending on what Andre has happening. We'll get there, albeit slowly. Thanks to everyone who is following and posting, I wouldn't be trying to maintain the AAR if you weren't. Now, if Andre would just have time to send a turn. [:D]
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Thanks for all the posts of late. I know following a single sided AAR isn't always fun, and with the slow pace of this game it's hard to maintain the flow to keep people engaged. We keep plugging away and seem to go in spurts depending on what Andre has happening. We'll get there, albeit slowly. Thanks to everyone who is following and posting, I wouldn't be trying to maintain the AAR if you weren't. Now, if Andre would just have time to send a turn. [:D]
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August 6/42:

Only a couple of turns run since the last post, and they were pretty quiet ones.

A Japanese DD was sunk by a couple of Dutch submarines near Diego Garcia. The first left the DD crippled and sitting dead in the water, the second finished her off.

In India, 152 4E's hit Bangalore's airbase against no Japanese opposition. Damage was moderate due to severe storms over the target. Allied troops meanwhile advance on both Bangalore and Mangalore. Mangalore was just abandoned by Andre and an Indian division should arrive at the base next turn. Commonwealth forces are still a week away from contesting Bangalore, which still indicates four Japanese units present. A British armour unit will arrive in Bezwada next turn, cutting the rail line and effectively isolating Southern India from anything other than seaborne reinforcement.

Is Andre content to simply abandon Southern India and dig in around Calcutta? If so, this is most welcome on my end. India will continue to be reinforced with mainly British and Commonwealth units from here on out, as most American units are now earmarked for Australia and New Zealand in preparation for future moves. I will have to start moving forward across the map to spread out and pressure the Japanese defence.
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Big time delays right now with Andre's move across country. Depending on how things go, it may be closer to June before another turn arrives. I'll keep myself busy with the models, unless anyone is up to start a game? [:D]
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August 7/42:

A turn arrived!

Allied forces continue to advance towards their objectives in Southern India. The British 42nd Cavalry Rgt. arrives at an undefended Bezwada and will liberate the base tomorrow. Two Indian Divisions, the 9th and 14th, will arrive at Mangalore tomorrow. This base is also undefended.

A large Allied force is moving on Bangalore where Japanese forces consisting of four units are still present. Allied LCU's will contest the base within a week. The British 3rd Cavalry Rgt. is advancing on an undefended Mysore. Providing Japanese forces do not contest the base prior to liberation, as soon as 3rd Cavalry controls the base reinforcements will rail directly to Mysore.

Within the next few turns, Bezwada, Mangalore and Mysore will revert back to Allied control. Once Bangalore is liberated, Allied air will concentrate on shutting down Madras's airbase and port. So far, Allied moves are going according to plan, whether contested by Japan or not. It definitely appears Andre has decided to concentrate around Calcutta and avoid getting trapped in Southern India. I am already preparing for how to deal with Calcutta. Other than the VP's I lost from static units trapped and destroyed as a result of Andre's advance into India, the British and Commonwealth forces are actually in fantastic shape. There are over 600 base VP's up for grabs in Southern India alone which will go a long way to avoiding AV. I'm already looking at Ceylon and the 900 VP's that Japan will lose when the island is liberated, hopefully before the end of 1942.

I think Andre's move here was a good one, it's definitely pushed back the Allied start line for a move against Burma, and it's allowed him to smash a number of static and smaller LCU's which otherwise he'd have had no access to. That being said, I think the failure to actually destroy large numbers of Allied divisions and aircraft will show the gains made in India by Japan are illusory. Once the tally of base VP's starts being subtracted from Japan's total, it may mean AV will be unattainable for Andre.

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August 8/42:

Bezwada is liberated. That's an immediate swing of 24 VP's with Japan losing 20 and the Allies gaining 4. Another bonus is Andre left intact level four forts after abandoning the base.

Large numbers of Japanese Tojo's sweep Bezwada before the base reverts to Allied control. No Allied air was present over the base. Instead, the Allies targeted Vizagapatnam and under clear skies just hammered the airbase. AAR follows:

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Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 83
B-24D Liberator x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 20
P-40E Warhawk x 20

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Airbase hits 47
Airbase supply hits 17
Runway hits 98

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Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 27
P-38E Lightning x 7

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

In other news, Andre's opened up another theatre. Japanese forces land at Attu in the Aleutians.

In India, one of the Japanese units has moved from Bangalore to Mysore to prevent a quick capture by Allied forces. I will target the defenders with Allied air next turn to support the 3rd Cavalry Rgt. which will arrive at the base on the 9th.
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Interesting bombing result - two AM attacks with clear sky and only a 2000 foot difference in bombing altitude, yet the first strike gets good results and the second one can only be called a dud. Was there a problem with squadron leadership/skill in the second attack?
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Interesting bombing result - two AM attacks with clear sky and only a 2000 foot difference in bombing altitude, yet the first strike gets good results and the second one can only be called a dud. Was there a problem with squadron leadership/skill in the second attack?

The second attack certainly showed poor results. Interesting that the combat reports showed the estimated altitude differed by 2k when all the bombers were set to 10k. I definitely have some low experienced squadrons in the mix, so it could have been a combination of low experience, poor leadership and a bad roll. On the job training. [:D]
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I don't think those are poor results at all. Keep in mind that sometimes the number of hits are vastly underestimated in the combat report. I've done a lot of 4E bombing between my 2 games. I trust the animation more, and I know the "pulse" length of my combat messages (I have them set to 0.5 seconds). I can therefore count how many hits the animation shows, which isn't 100% accurate but it's closer. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen at least 4 "runway hits" messages and seen only "Runway hits 1" in the combat report text. Or when I see just "Runway hits 1" in the combat text, yet saw multiple instances of damaged/destroyed aircraft with other messages interspersed, such as "B-24D1 damaged by flak".

Also, keep in mind that the first attack had 99 bombers. The second had a mere fraction of that.

Also as mentioned, the experience thing. Or simply sheer luck. My point was really just that those results are within expected bounds.
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