Blue Sides

[wdolson]

The actual terrain is fairly complex. A map of this scale can't do it justice.

A smaller scale map here:
http://nona.net/features/map/placedetail.2367874/Nadzab/

Bill

[geofflambert]

I only brought it up because I tried to sail in there and it was prohibited.

[geofflambert]

I just attempted to set Nadzab as a home port for a TF and got the following three error messages

[geofflambert]

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[geofflambert]

I should note that this is a DBB-C game. This next error message is curious.

[witpqs]

What scenario are you playing?

Select some other, far away hex so the white hex sides won't cover any information, then

- toggle the F6 key

- toggle the 1 key

That will show us the hex side codes and the terrain of each hex. Take a screen pic and post it please.

[geofflambert]

Isn't post # 19 sufficient? Neither side can posses a blue hexside. It's scenario 28 (I think)

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Isn't post # 19 sufficient? Neither side can posses a blue hexside. It's scenario 28 (I think)

No. You are talking about apples and monkey wrenches. It's the same blue, but not the same. Wait - Gorn don't see the color blue, do you?

Anyway, I've been looking here at my Scenario 28 extended map, and it looks like that river is not set to allow ships to move up river.

When you toggle the F6 key, rivers show up as purple hex sides, and rivers that are longer than 1 hex side show up as a string of purple hex sides. But ships don't move along hex sides, they move across hex sides and 'reside' in hexes. So for a ship to be allowed to move "upriver", the hexes on one side or the other of the river (or both sides) have to be connected by either blue hex sides (allows ships to cross) or white hex sides (allows ships and land units to cross). Look at some stretches of coastlines for examples where ships are allowed to move 'along' the coast and land units are too and you will see white hex sides when the F6 key is toggled on.

But wait! You ask "What about places like Rangoon and Palembang and some others?" Look at them with the F6 key toggled on. You will see that when ships move to those locations they are moving across river (purple) hex sides. Ships are allowed to do that, but only up to a certain tonnage. Battleships, for example, are all too big and are not allowed.

Now compare the area of Nadzab with Rangoon and Palembang and you will see the difference.

So, was Nadzab an oversight? Was it meant to have no port? Was it meant to have a purple hex side (river) access? Was it meant to have a white hex side (and and LCU) access? Was it decided to leave it as is? Dunno.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Slightly OT, here's a question. North of Lae is a base called Nadzab. As you can see here, it has a potential to build a port. Problem is it's surrounded by land hexsides. Does that change if you build a port to size 1?

BTW, this is showing the area with the 'w' key toggled, not the 'F6' key. [:'(]

[geofflambert]

I have the additional problem that my screen capture program uses "F6" to click. I guess I'll wait til someone who's been there and done that reports and that'll likely be me since choosey moms choose Jif. Where the heck did that come from? I mean I'll try to build a port there in some future game. But still, what the heck are choosey moms and what's Jif?

[geofflambert]

OK witpqs, I'll find another screen cap program so the conflict no longer happens. By the way, are you some kind of baboon or a macaque? Where'd you learn to do selfies? Don't answer, I'd be sinking without your help.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

OK witpqs, I'll find another screen cap program so the conflict no longer happens. By the way, are you some kind of baboon or a macaque? Where'd you learn to do selfies? Don't answer, I'd be sinking without your help.

I cannot answer because even though the photographs themselves can't be copyrighted, knowledge of the process of taking them might be used against the monkey in court. You wouldn't want to make my cousin suffer, eh?

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[Alfred]

It was confirmed back in October 2011 that it was a mistake, Nadzab should not have the capacity to build a port.  See post #1041 from Andrew Brown.
 
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1639011&mpage=35&key=Nadzab&#2940394
 
Nadzab should be classified as an AF, not a base.  The issue of the appropriateness of having blue hexsides therefore should not arise in respect of this location.
 
Alfred