Pelton(GHC) vs smokindave34 Turn 211 Game Complete DRAW

[M60A3TTS]

I trust those following this game can see what you get when agreeing as the Soviet player to this.

1941 GC Sudden Death or Alt VC260

Mild Blizzard Rules
Non Random Weather
No 1-1 = 2-1

Dave is not a bad player, but he's helpless under these one-sided conditions given Pelton's abilities.

[charlie0311]

Do you have a suggestion for rules, .08.02beta?

[HITMAN202]

Pelton, I think I noticed a slight change to your modus operandi as you slog thru layers of Soviet forts. Do you attach a Pz div in Reserve Mod to 3 infantry in your powerhouse corps to maximize their attack value and minimize attack penalties ???

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

Pelton, I think I noticed a slight change to your modus operandi as you slog thru layers of Soviet forts. Do you attach a Pz div in Reserve Mod to 3 infantry in your powerhouse corps to maximize their attack value and minimize attack penalties ???

Yup Army really.

9 high morale infantry and 4 GD/PD 3 Corp with 1 panzer under the Army HQ

[M60A3TTS]

ORIGINAL: charlie0311

Do you have a suggestion for rules, .08.02beta?

Depends on the context. If I am playing against Pelton and he wants no 1:1-2:1, fine. Non Random weather, fine. That's now two pluses for the Axis side. So against that I would want normal blizzard and regular victory conditions to level the field.

The presence of no 1:1-2:1 combined with mild blizzard means neither side suffers significant casualties in the summer-fall and the Axis can fight to retain the most important territory gains of winter in the Moscow area. That means come summer, it's simple cleanup for the Axis to get to 260VP just as we see here. It so happens that I am playing Dave under the conditions I mention and the battle lines are quite similar to where they were historically with Leningrad being lost the exception.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

ORIGINAL: charlie0311

Do you have a suggestion for rules, .08.02beta?

Depends on the context. If I am playing against Pelton and he wants no 1:1-2:1, fine. Non Random weather, fine.
That's now two pluses for the Axis side. So against that I would want normal blizzard and regular victory conditions to level the field.

The presence of no 1:1-2:1 combined with mild blizzard means neither side suffers significant casualties in the summer-fall and the Axis can fight to retain the most important territory gains of winter in the Moscow area. That means come summer, it's simple cleanup for the Axis to get to 260VP just as we see here. It so happens that I am playing Dave under the conditions I mention and the battle lines are quite similar to where they were historically with Leningrad being lost the exception.

no 1v1=2v1
random weather
mild blizzard
sudden death or 260

[micheljq]

What is sudden death or 260?

Mild Blizzard sure is helping Axis.

Michel.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: micheljq

What is sudden death or 260?

Mild Blizzard sure is helping Axis.

Michel.

MB = historical not the Middle Earth standard blizzard sillyness

[sillyflower]

I have to say Smokin' is paying the price for agreeing to house rules that were each pro-German. IMHO house rules should be used to correct gamey abuse of rules, and broadly neutral or designed to aid the weaker/less experienced player.

Same for trash talk which is why I would always allow Hitman 2 more adverbs and 1 extra gerund per post: safe in the knowledge that he doesn't know what they are.

[Peltonx]

Turn 55 GHC Armaments: 224,000 Manpower in Pool: 275,000 VP:238


Armament Pts Destroyed = 80
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 100
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions: 20
Brigades: 10
SU:
AP total:

A few small pockets each turn so far mostly in the center. Dave is doing a good job at holding Moscow. I don't think I will be able to take it until rivers freeze so I will just keep doing the packman thing for now.

[Peltonx]

Here is OOB at the start of the summer campaign.

I like to keep SHC OOB around 7.5 to 8.0 million and GHC OOB above 3.5.

As long as my OOB is over 3.5 I will keep pounding away.

I need to pocket at least 100 divisions. There is a way to get to 260 VP without taking Moscow and its really not that far from the front the VP's required.

[Peltonx]

Turn 56 GHC Armaments: 221,000 Manpower in Pool: 230,000 VP:239


Armament Pts Destroyed = 80
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 100
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions: 32
Brigades: 10
SU:
AP total:

Another small pocket formed.

One small operation is down in the oil fields, 1 PZ Corp, 1 German I Corp and all the minor allies.
A second small operation is pushing for Stalingrad, which is 2 Infantry Armies.
A 3rd small operation is pushing near Moscow, which is 1 infantry army.
One large operation is pushing in the center below the Oka and north of Don.
Most of the mobile divisions are in AGA, the main job is to pocket units for now.

I have railheads withen 10-15 hexes of front line units or closer. No need to use HQBU's so far just air drops.

[swkuh]

@Pelton

Would appreciate your reasoning for choosing AG commanders, especially Jodl. Clearly, you've spent some Adm points. von Kluge, OK. Oncle Fedor, maybe.

[Peltonx]

Turn 57 GHC Armaments: 215,000 Manpower in Pool: 277,000 VP:239


Armament Pts Destroyed = 80
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 100
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions: 40
Brigades: 12
SU:
AP total:

AGB pushes for a crossing north of the Oka, while AGC pockets a few more units

[Peltonx]

Mean while Army Group Antonescu drives for Grozny and the oil fields

[Peltonx]

Turn 58 GHC Armaments: 208,000 Manpower in Pool: 287,000 VP:243


Armament Pts Destroyed = 80
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 100
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 1
Divisions: 45
Brigades: 18
SU:
AP total:

AGN is basicly static.

AGC is taking about a hex per turn around Moscow to keep the pressure on.

AGB crosses the Oka for a possible back door push on Moscow and the panzers drive towards Penza and Saransk.

AGS drives towards Saratov and Stalingrad.

Army Group Antonescu drives for Grozny and the oil fields.

[Peltonx]

I had a second game going vs rkimmi but he has alrdy resigned heheheh

[Peltonx]

Turn 59 GHC Armaments: 203,000 Manpower in Pool: 284,000 VP:243


Armament Pts Destroyed = 80
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 100
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 1
Divisions: 50
Brigades: 18
SU:
AP total:

This is AGC near Moscow

smokendave has done a great job hanging on north to Oka

[Peltonx]

Another small pocket is formed and AGA and AGS keep driving east.

[Peltonx]

Army Group Antonescu drives for Grozny is about to fall.