1943-1945 Campaign Pelton(Axis) vs Belphegor Axis Victory
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor
it takes freight to do everything to restore your units. those depots will run out eventually if there is no rail cap to replenish them.
What do your rails look like?
AWG says he has hard time supplying, but im not sure if its because I have plastered every rail yard in Italy.
What do your rails look like?
AWG says he has hard time supplying, but im not sure if its because I have plastered every rail yard in Italy.
"We are going to attack all night, and attack tomorrow morning..... If we are not victorious, let no one come back alive!" -- Patton
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor
Turn 68 VP’s this turn: -27 ---------Total: -523
At La Harve holds against 0 attack.
14th Army in Southern France 1 attacks.
The Gustov line holds against 1 attacks.
Brittany holds against 1 attacks.
At La Harve holds against 0 attack.
14th Army in Southern France 1 attacks.
The Gustov line holds against 1 attacks.
Brittany holds against 1 attacks.
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor
I landed 3 invasions for '44. I expected a huge fight in the North and hoped for an early capture of Marseilles in the south. What I got was a huge fight. My invasion prep of the area was minimal.
In hindsight, atrocious or criminal. I was able to bomb effectively but didn't plan enough nor enough time. The result was unsurprisingly Pelton's Wall. The last invasion was to take the pressure off the first in the North. Same errors... not enough focus by the air forces.
I'm faced now with the hard choices of staying put, or trying one more time. Game weather suggests the Soviets will be in Berlin before I get to Paris but I'm going to continue to try. I've had to swap out the original invasion force with an entirely new army. Slow going when supporting two invasion beaches and annoying counter-attacks. If the weather doesn't improve I'm going to have to sit for some time awaiting good weather.
Anyone who doesn't take invasion planning seriously will lose. Either side.
In hindsight, atrocious or criminal. I was able to bomb effectively but didn't plan enough nor enough time. The result was unsurprisingly Pelton's Wall. The last invasion was to take the pressure off the first in the North. Same errors... not enough focus by the air forces.
I'm faced now with the hard choices of staying put, or trying one more time. Game weather suggests the Soviets will be in Berlin before I get to Paris but I'm going to continue to try. I've had to swap out the original invasion force with an entirely new army. Slow going when supporting two invasion beaches and annoying counter-attacks. If the weather doesn't improve I'm going to have to sit for some time awaiting good weather.
Anyone who doesn't take invasion planning seriously will lose. Either side.
RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor
I'm not up on the literature for the normandy campaign. But have Zetterling's comments about allied air power being a nuisance rather than absolutely destructive been disproved or supported? I've always been fascinated by the acceptance of war propaganda as popular fact. It's very difficult to determine actual effects from claimed effects when both sides like the myth better than reality to explain their success (or failure)
RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor
A good read is Steel Inferno
I SS Panzer Corp in Normandy.
It seemed that if you were a German you wanted to stay withen a few miles of the front lines. There was not much for allies planes over head. Guess they did not want friendly fire, but once you got 10+ miles from the front you better not move during day light hours unless it was raining.
I just pulled the book of the shelf yesterday and started flipping through it again.
I SS Panzer Corp in Normandy.
It seemed that if you were a German you wanted to stay withen a few miles of the front lines. There was not much for allies planes over head. Guess they did not want friendly fire, but once you got 10+ miles from the front you better not move during day light hours unless it was raining.
I just pulled the book of the shelf yesterday and started flipping through it again.
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor
now on my reading list. Thanks!
It's counter-intuitive to not bring over as many troops as possible. I think the game does an excellent job punishing those that rush everyone to France without adequate transport and supply. It's even harder to remember that you need to leave room for units to retreat otherwise they'll rout. Knowing this from WitE doesn't mean I remember to apply it in WitW to my detriment. It's the balance between lots of troops to hold a hex, vs a bigger target that can't run.
It's counter-intuitive to not bring over as many troops as possible. I think the game does an excellent job punishing those that rush everyone to France without adequate transport and supply. It's even harder to remember that you need to leave room for units to retreat otherwise they'll rout. Knowing this from WitE doesn't mean I remember to apply it in WitW to my detriment. It's the balance between lots of troops to hold a hex, vs a bigger target that can't run.
RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor
"It seemed that if you were a German you wanted to stay withen a few miles of the front lines."
Chuikov's Stalingrad tactics. Too bad interdiction in hexes next to friendly unit doesn't have potential for friendly fire. Or at least have a reduction in effect on enemies.
Chuikov's Stalingrad tactics. Too bad interdiction in hexes next to friendly unit doesn't have potential for friendly fire. Or at least have a reduction in effect on enemies.
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
Turn 76
WA’s try to out flank La Havre with a landing, but XIV Corp has 30,000 prisoners to march through Berlin for Hitler to watch.
Gustov Line helds vs 3 large attacks.
In Southern France WA’s evac and on Brittany a stalemate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-uyENm3T-0
WA’s try to out flank La Havre with a landing, but XIV Corp has 30,000 prisoners to march through Berlin for Hitler to watch.
Gustov Line helds vs 3 large attacks.
In Southern France WA’s evac and on Brittany a stalemate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-uyENm3T-0
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
Damn, December 44 and the Allies are not even close to Germany.
Very good game, Pelton.
Very good game, Pelton.
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
ORIGINAL: Haudrauf1962
Damn, December 44 and the Allies are not even close to Germany.
Very good game, Pelton.
Next turn is turn 80 I do an up-date, thks
We hopeing to be 1st AAR to finish, but we see.
Belphegor made some early mistakes and I been able to hang on some how, I think allot of rain and mud helped allot heheh
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
I'm still trying to break out somewhere. But the weather is definitely not participating in my plans.
RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
ORIGINAL: Belphegor
I'm still trying to break out somewhere. But the weather is definitely not participating in my plans.
No..its precipitating your plans
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
I don't know weather I should laugh or cry
RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
I don't get it, did i mist anything?
RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
HeheORIGINAL: Jajusha
I don't get it, did i mist anything?
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
Nothing has happened basicly.
The weather has been horrible so not much can be done. I do feel bad for Belphegor because mother nature seems to truly hate him.
The weather has been horrible so not much can be done. I do feel bad for Belphegor because mother nature seems to truly hate him.
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
Turn 87 VP’s this turn: -52 Total: -782
Finally some action, WA’s land to the south west of Gustov line and cause a with drawal of forces and Germany has to rail in reserves to try and sure up the lines.
Finally some action, WA’s land to the south west of Gustov line and cause a with drawal of forces and Germany has to rail in reserves to try and sure up the lines.
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
WA’s also try attacks at both the Le Harve and Brittany beach heads but fail to take a hex.
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RE: 1943-1945 Campaign Pelton vs Belphegor T-76
Still no ground support from aircraft. Weather is only cold, so it's apparently a deliberate decision, but I don't understand the reasoning.
Can you show a map of the interdiction values around those beachheads? If they're not providing ground support, is he at least supplying heavy interdiction?
Can you show a map of the interdiction values around those beachheads? If they're not providing ground support, is he at least supplying heavy interdiction?
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