My Historical Global War AAR

[rkr1958]

ORIGINAL: composer99

Just to clarify, pauldernyck was the one who made that suggestion. [:)]

You are correct sir. The record (i.e., post) is now corrected.

[Centuur]

ORIGINAL: rkr1958

Mar/Apr 1943. End of Turn. Northern China.

It looks like you stumbled on a bug here. The whole Japanese army group around Yamamoto should be stated as being out of supply, due to the Partisan, blocking the railline at Chengchow...

[AllenK]

ORIGINAL: Centuur

ORIGINAL: rkr1958

Mar/Apr 1943. End of Turn. Northern China.

It looks like you stumbled on a bug here. The whole Japanese army group around Yamamoto should be stated as being out of supply, due to the Partisan, blocking the railline at Chengchow...

With partisans not having a ZOC into adjacent hexes, doesn't it mean Yamamato can use the basic supply path allowance to by-pass the city and reconnect to the railway hex to the NE? Something similar happened in my game and when I checked the supply path to the HQ, that is what it was doing.

[Courtenay]

ORIGINAL: AllenK

ORIGINAL: Centuur

It looks like you stumbled on a bug here. The whole Japanese army group around Yamamoto should be stated as being out of supply, due to the Partisan, blocking the railline at Chengchow...

With partisans not having a ZOC into adjacent hexes, doesn't it mean Yamamato can use the basic supply path allowance to by-pass the city and reconnect to the railway hex to the NE? Something similar happened in my game and when I checked the supply path to the HQ, that is what it was doing.

The HQ has four movement points of supply path. In the bad weather, it takes all four to get around the partisan. It needs one more once the supply line gets to a port to trace back to Japan. Peter is right, those units should be out of supply.

[AllenK]

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

ORIGINAL: AllenK

ORIGINAL: Centuur

It looks like you stumbled on a bug here. The whole Japanese army group around Yamamoto should be stated as being out of supply, due to the Partisan, blocking the railline at Chengchow...

With partisans not having a ZOC into adjacent hexes, doesn't it mean Yamamato can use the basic supply path allowance to by-pass the city and reconnect to the railway hex to the NE? Something similar happened in my game and when I checked the supply path to the HQ, that is what it was doing.

The HQ has four movement points of supply path. In the bad weather, it takes all four to get around the partisan. It needs one more once the supply line gets to a port to trace back to Japan. Peter is right, those units should be out of supply.

Ah yes, the weather. Good point.

[rkr1958]

Unfortunately, I think that game turn is long gone ... but I'll take a look at what I have and see if I can find it.

[rkr1958]

Guys, just a thought here. Could the supply check "glitch" be because all this is happening at the end of the turn and before another turn. That is, is the weather roll still applicable? I checked through my screen caps and the first impulse of the next turn is fine weather, which means supply is ok? Unfortunately the weather wasn't fine so I (we) don't have the data to determine if there's a supply bug or if all this is an artifact of the end of turn?

[composer99]

If there's another HQ that the supply path can trace to before going back overseas, perhaps in Manchuria, they're OK, or if they can trace to the capital of Manchuria or Korea (secondary supply sources). They spend the basic supply path to get around the partisan, trace a railway path to the next secondary source, and then back to Japan.

[Courtenay]

ORIGINAL: composer99

If there's another HQ that the supply path can trace to before going back overseas, perhaps in Manchuria, they're OK, or if they can trace to the capital of Manchuria or Korea (secondary supply sources). They spend the basic supply path to get around the partisan, trace a railway path to the next secondary source, and then back to Japan.

Um, no.

SUPPLY PATHS
Supply paths are traced from a unit to a primary supply source. If tracing a path from a secondary supply source to a primary supply source, it is a railway supply path. If tracing any other supply path, it is a basic supply path.

You can not use rail to trace to a secondary supply source. I have tried to do this, and discovered it didn't work. Finally, I learned. Rail supply only goes to primary sources. You can't stick a secondary source in the middle to avoid the one hex penalty for tracing overseas supply.

[composer99]

Eh, my mistake then.

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Trade.

Three non-mandatory trade agreements were put / kept in place for the May/June 1943 turn.

1. Free France sends 1 oil to the CW.

2. Germany sends 4 resources (3 non-oil and 1 oil) to Italy.

3. Vichy France sends 1 non-oil resource to Italy.

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Initiative.

The axis win the first initiative roll, the allies are NOT offer the opportunity to re-roll and the axis decide to move first.

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Axis #1. Weather.

The weather is fine everywhere except in southern China. All three axis (Germany-Italy-Japan) take a land action and decide to make hay while the sun is shining. Germany plays an O-Chit.

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Axis #1. Germany's Land Option with O-Chit.

The O-chit is played with Guderian in the west. The Wehrmacht launch 2 land combats in the west (i.e., France) and 3 in the east (i.e., Russia). Starting with France ...

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Axis #1. Land Combat[61,29]. Ground Support and Air to Air.

The first Wehrmacht land combat is against Wavell's HQ unit, which is alone in a hex. The Luftwaffe, RAF and USAF all three throw bombers and fighters into the mix. The net result is that all three airforces get a single bomber unit cleared which results in 4 additional combat factors for the German (attackers) and 6 additional combat factors for the allies (defenders).

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Axis #1. Land Combat. Vichy France [61,29].

Wavell's HQ puts up a fierce fight, survives and manages to throw the attackers back on a 30% roll. Not a good start to the German offensive this impulse.

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Axis #1. Vichy France [61,27]. Land Combat #2. Ground Strike.

The second land combat in Vichy France is preceded by an attempted ground strike by the Luftwaffe which is opposed by RAF fighters. These fighters are in turn opposed by Luftwaffe fighters. With the opposing fighters apparently sizing each other up (i.e., nothing happened to either unit), the Luftwaffe bombers manage to slip by and disorganize 1 of the 2 CW units attacked.

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Axis #1. Vichy France, Land Combat #2.

The USAF tries to support their besieged allies by sending 4 bomber units for defensive ground support. Unfortunately for the USAF bombers, they're send in un-escorted by allied fighters and are in turn intercepted by Luftwaffe fighters. After the lead US bomber unit is shot down the surviving 3 decide to abort and live to fight another day. The result is that this second land combat is automatic for the Germans (i.e., 7:1 on the Blitz CRT).

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Axis #1. Vichy France.

Guderian, who will be disorganized by the O-chit, is used to reorganize what ground units he can in Vichy France. The Euro-axis now have the allies contained there (at least for now).

[rkr1958]

May/June 1943. Axis #1. The Eastern Front. Land Combat.

Of the three land combats on the Eastern Front, two are automatic. The remaining one, which isn't, is an assault on Sevastopol and is designed to give the Germans control of the Crimea, if they win of course. The Luftwaffe provides 9 factors of ground support, the Germans roll a 9 and the attack is a total success (for the Germans that is).