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RE: FREMM and Naval Scalp

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[*]#1766 - D 650 Aquitaine [FREMM] -- France (Navy), 2013-0
shouldn't have its #2598 - MdCN [Naval SCALP EG] -- 2014 available yet.

"MdCN will equip the French Navy’s FREMM (multi-mission frigates) during 2015 and its Barracuda submarines in around 2018."
http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagallery/#/news/3435

"Le MdCN équipera à partir de 2015 les frégates multi-missions (FREMM) et les sous-marins Barracuda à l’horizon 2018."
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/actualit ... ation-mdcn


[*]#2598 - MdCN [Naval SCALP EG] -- 2014
Its date should be 2015, qualification firing are being held but it's not deployed yet.

"The French DGA (Direction Générale d’Armement) has successfully carried out the final qualification firing of the MdCN system (Missile de Croisière Naval, also known as NCM or Naval Cruise Missile). The firing, which took place on 27th October 2014 at the DGA’s “Missile Test Centre” at Biscarrosse (Landes) on France’s Atlantic coast, represented a missile launch from a frigate."
http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagallery/#/news/3435

"La DGA a réalisé avec succès le dernier tir de qualification système MdCN (missile de croisière naval) le 27 octobre 2014. Ce tir, effectué sur le site de Biscarrosse (Landes) du centre DGA Essais de missiles est représentatif d’un tir à partir d’une frégate."
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/actualit ... ation-mdcn

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RE: FREMM and Naval Scalp

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Researching about the Brisbane G-20 Summit 2014 Harpoon HCE/HUCE scenario I found the MU-90 are not implemented and will not in Australian AP-3C and SH-60B, they will keep the use of Mk46 Mod5 to end of operational life.
(In Command CMANO this only affects the AP-3C - Australia (Air Force), 2007 variant MU-90 capable, the SH-60B-2 - Australia (Navy). 2008 has the correct Mk46 Mod5).

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MU90_Impact#Exports
After deciding that its Mark 46 torpedoes were inadequate, Australia set up the JP2070 project in 1998 to buy torpedoes for its Adelaide-class frigates, ANZAC-class frigates, AP-3C Orion aircraft, S-70B-2 Seahawk helicopters and planned SH-2G(A) Super Seasprite helicopters.[5] The Seasprites were cancelled and the Orions and Seahawks were removed from the MU90 programme on budget grounds; their replacements, the P-8 Poseidon and MH-60R Seahawk will use the US Mark 54 torpedo.[5] The A$639m[5] project to buy a classified number of MU90 has been heavily criticised by the Australian National Audit Office on the grounds of cost, insufficient test firings which failed to reveal defects in the torpedo, and the lack of commonality with the Navy's air-launched torpedoes. The MU90 reached IOC in November 2012.[5]

http://www.anao.gov.au/Publications/Audit-Reports/2012-2013/Remediation-of-the-Lightweight-Torpedo-Replacement-Project/Audit-summary
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RE: FREMM and Naval Scalp

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ORIGINAL: Jan Masterson

[*]#1766 - D 650 Aquitaine [FREMM] -- France (Navy), 2013-0
shouldn't have its #2598 - MdCN [Naval SCALP EG] -- 2014 available yet.

"MdCN will equip the French Navy’s FREMM (multi-mission frigates) during 2015 and its Barracuda submarines in around 2018."
http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagallery/#/news/3435

"Le MdCN équipera à partir de 2015 les frégates multi-missions (FREMM) et les sous-marins Barracuda à l’horizon 2018."
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/actualit ... ation-mdcn


[*]#2598 - MdCN [Naval SCALP EG] -- 2014
Its date should be 2015, qualification firing are being held but it's not deployed yet.

"The French DGA (Direction Générale d’Armement) has successfully carried out the final qualification firing of the MdCN system (Missile de Croisière Naval, also known as NCM or Naval Cruise Missile). The firing, which took place on 27th October 2014 at the DGA’s “Missile Test Centre” at Biscarrosse (Landes) on France’s Atlantic coast, represented a missile launch from a frigate."
http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagallery/#/news/3435

"La DGA a réalisé avec succès le dernier tir de qualification système MdCN (missile de croisière naval) le 27 octobre 2014. Ce tir, effectué sur le site de Biscarrosse (Landes) du centre DGA Essais de missiles est représentatif d’un tir à partir d’une frégate."
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/actualit ... ation-mdcn

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a source in english
http://navyrecognition.com/index.php?op ... ew&id=2042
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

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ORIGINAL: Mgellis


C Sword 90 Corvette

http://cmn-group.com/products-and-servi ... -sword-90/

(This might be a good model for the generic corvette requested above. The stats for the hull are mostly here...now just add sensors, weapons, etc. In fact, the entire "catalog"...

http://cmn-group.com/products-and-servi ... y-vessels/

...might be useful in that regard for working up some generic, ready-to-customize platforms).

more info on this one + video
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=2066
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

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Requests added up until this point. Thanks!

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RE: Mirage 2000D fest for DB3000

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Hi community,

here is a serie of proposal regarding Mirage 2000, starting with 2000D. N will come later then single-seater and foreign versions.


Before all else, please note that what I do suggest comes from books or websites, I have no first hand experience in the air, I did my best to double check things though.
So what you do have here is nothing more than pure research, nor nothing less. In other words, I've done my homework but keep in mind it's all from public sources.

Sources:
- "AMD-BA Mirage 2000 D, Les matériels de l'armée de l'air et de l'aéronavale n°13" (2012), Frédéric Lert, ISBN: 978-2352502531
- "Dans le repaire du Mirage 2000D" (2013), Frédéric Lert & Alexandre Paringaux ISBN : 978-2-36118-116-1
- "La Guerre Vue du Ciel" (2013), Lieutenant-colonel Marc "Claudia" Scheffler & Frédéric Lert, ISBN: 978-2915243567
- "Mirage 2000, Collection Check List N° 2" (2005), Philippe Roman & Alain Crosnier, ISBN : 2-912749-07-7.
- "Mirage 2000 Upgrading for 21st Century Service" (2000), John Fricker.
- "Mirage en mission : Du combat canon aux frappes spécialisées" (2009), Philippe Roman & Alain Crosnier, ISBN: 978-2726888575.
- "Mirage IV, Mirage F1, Mirage 2000, Minidocavia n°20" (2005), Hervé Beaumont, ISBN: 2-84890-080-6.
- Air Actualités (French Air Force Review)
- Air & Cosmos
- Air Fan
- AirForces Monthly (Lieutenant-colonel Alexis Rougier, Henri-Pierre Grolleau)
- Combat Aircraft Monthly
- Flight International
- Jane's All the World's Aircraft (1999-2000, 2004-2005), Aircraft Upgrades 2002-2003, Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems 2002-2003
- http://www.checksix-forums.com/viewforum.php?f=279/ antilope, Bensky, bidou, cat plombe, EnZo34, Frenchie, jojo, OPIT, SpruceGoose
- http://www.guerrelec.asso.fr/
- http://www.dassault-aviation.com/wp-con ... age_02.pdf
- http://www.dassault-aviation.com/wp-con ... ge_051.pdf
- http://www.defense.gouv.fr/content/down ... le/JVN.pdf
- http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagaller ... r-m_ds.pdf
- http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagaller ... ale_ds.pdf
- http://www.snecma.com/IMG/files/fiche_m ... ile_fr.pdf


[*]#936 - Antilope 5 -- 1989, Mirage 2000N
[*]#1993 - Antilope 5-3D
Both are the same device and should be named "Antilope 5 TC", "TC" meaning "Télémétrie - Cartographie".
It doesn't gives Heading Information nor is able to perform Surface Search. Like the #847 - Tornado Nose Radar (TNR), it's a Terrain Following and Ground Mapping Radar. Its Air to Air abilities are subpar (due to its frequency I've been told), while it's max A-A range is advertised as 16 n,m, it's practical range is about 5-8 nm. The Magic 2's or the pod's IR sensor, or even Eyeball Mk1 are often more efficient to find the tanker the Mirage 2000D have rendez-vous with (this is verbatim from actual crew).
The difference from 2000N and D lays in the weapon system.

[*]#1892 - Chameleon
Name is Cameleon ("Caméléon" if you can use accents)

[*]#3891 - DDM-2000 -- ICMS Mk2
Name is "DDM", simply. (Détecteur de Départ Missiles)


[*]#70 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 1996
[*]#69 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 1998
[*]#1282 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2000
[*]#23 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2002
[*]#1745 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2004
[*]#1715 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2011
[*]#2861 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2014

Sensors: should add:
#2241 - AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles

Properties: should be:
Bombsight - Advanced Navigation (INS/GPS)
Fly-by-Wire
Night Navigation/Attack (Incl. Bomb, Rocket Delivery)
Probe Refuelling
Terrain Following (Land: 200ft (60.9m), Sea: 100ft (30.5m))

Military Static Thrust at S/L: should be 6562, (64.35 kN).
Afterburner Static Thrust at S/L:: should be 9700, (95.13 kN).
Military Static SFC at S/L: should be 0.92.
Specific fuel flow with full AB: should be 2.12.

Stores: #1786 - Rubis Navigation Pod [FLIR] should be removed, same from all and any loadouts. France only used it on Mirage F1CR from 1999 to 2003.


-<<Following proposals only applies to the specific platform # and assume that aforementioned changes have been applied first and >>-


[*]#70 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 1996
Name: could be named Mirage 2000D R1
Date: should be changed to 1995 (first Sqn. operational from March 29th 1994, however before 1995 there have been multiple subversions (R1N1L that could only use Laser guided weaps, R1N1 that couldn't use any Laser guided weaps nor rockets) each with their very own capabilities but when the Mirage D actually went to combat, they were all, afaik, to the same standard, which is R1).
Sensors: no #3891 - DDM-2000
Loadouts:
Loadouts wit 2 AS.30L or BGL-1000 are not operational.
Only 12 BAT.100 or BAT.120 fits on Mirage 2000, not 18 (that was on Mirage III/V).
Loadouts with 4 BLG.66 Belouga CB or T.250 bombs would not allow a 1300 liter drop tank to be carried along.
As far as I know, loadouts with 8 bombs, be it T.200 or T.25, simply couldn't fit.

[*]#69 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 1998
Name: could be named Mirage 2000D R1 (GBU)
Date: make it 1999 to have a version for operation "Allied Force".
Sensors: no #3891 - DDM-2000
Mounts: add 1x Eclair that brings 2*8 Flares + 1x Eclair again that provides 1* 18 Chaffs. It was fitted at the expense of the drogue parachute during Allied Force (on Mirage 2000C during Desert Storm too btw). Eg. https://flic.kr/p/hxfBo9
Stores:
- Delete #1029 - BLG.66 Belouga CB [151 x Anti-Tank Bomblets] -- 1980, they are banned since 1996.
- Delete #823 - GBU-22/B Paveway III LGB [Mk82] (only came in 2011).
- Delete #871 - GBU-24A/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109/B] (only came in 2011).
- Add #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986.
- Add #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP.
Loadouts:
- Loadouts wit 2 AS.30L or BGL-1000 are not operational.
- Only 12 BAT.100 or BAT.120 fits, not 18.
- Loadouts with 4 T.250 bombs would not allow a 1300 liter drop tank to be carried along.
- As far as I know, loadouts with 8 bombs, be it T.200 or T.25, simply couldn't fit.
- GBU-12D/B LGB + PDLCT loadout can be cloned and the PDLCT replaced by an #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986 pod, its camera does offer a better definition (IRL, not sure it does in COMANO).
- A loadout with 4 T.25 bombs can be cloned and T.25 replaced by #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP
- Delete BLG.66 Belouga loadouts.
- Delete GBU-22 and GBU-24 loadouts.

[*]#1282 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2000
Name: could be named Mirage 2000D R2
Date: make it 2001, first R2 came in the summer of that year.
Sensors: add #1673 - Generic Binoculars -- Anti-Air & Surface (the pilot uses while the WSO (NOSA,"Navigateur officier systèmes d’armes", in French parlance) use the pod.
Mounts: add 1 LLC (Lance-Leurres de Crête) that adds 48 flares (6*8), eg. http://i.gyazo.com/c769d36ae92e0a3e1dbd753851cb75ae.png
T.25 250kg
Stores:
- Delete #823 - GBU-22/B Paveway III LGB [Mk82] (only came in 2011).
- Delete #871 - GBU-24A/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109/B] (only came in 2011).
- Add #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986.
- Delete #1508 - T.25 250kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1507 - T.200 400kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
Loadouts:
- Loadouts wit 2 AS.30L are not operational.
- Only 12 BAT.100 or BAT.120 fits, not 18.
- GBU-12D/B LGB + PDLCT loadout can be cloned and the PDLCT replaced by an #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986 pod, its camera does offer a better definition (IRL, not sure it does in COMANO).
- Make R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 optional as either only one or none are usually carried over Afghanistan (1 is kept to help find the tanker, due to poor A/A abilities of the radar)
- Delete T.25 250kg and T.200 400kg loadouts
- Delete GBU-22 and GBU-24 loadouts.

[*]#23 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2002
Name: could be named Mirage 2000D R2.1
Date: make it 2004. -> Note: Apache missiles were only test fired in December 2002 and never actually deployed. I thus think that a dedicated platform is not necessary.
Sensors: add #1673 - Generic Binoculars -- Anti-Air & Surface (the pilot uses while the WSO (NOSA,"Navigateur officier systèmes d’armes", in French parlance) use the pod.
Mounts: add 1 LLC (Lance-Leurres de Crête) that adds 48 flares (6*8), eg. http://i.gyazo.com/c769d36ae92e0a3e1dbd753851cb75ae.png
T.25 250kg
Stores:
- Delete #823 - GBU-22/B Paveway III LGB [Mk82] (only came in 2011).
- Delete #871 - GBU-24A/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109/B] (only came in 2011).
- Delete #1508 - T.25 250kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1507 - T.200 400kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1892 - AS.30L -- 1989 (too expensive to maintain).
- Delete #1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway (not needed anymore since stand-off are available).
- Delete #1561 - BAT.120 Anti-Armour (idem).
- Add #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986.
- Add #333 - SCALP EG -- 2004.
Loadouts:
- Delete AS.30L, BAT.100, BAT.120 fits, T.25 250kg, T.200 400kg, GBU-22 and GBU-24 loadouts.
- GBU-12D/B LGB + PDLCT loadout can be cloned and the PDLCT replaced by an #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986 pod, its camera does offer a better definition (IRL, not sure it does in COMANO).
- Make R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 optional as either only one or none are usually carried over Afghanistan (1 is kept to help find the tanker, due to poor A/A abilities of the radar)
- Clone Apache loadout and replace the Apache missile with a #333 - SCALP EG.

[*]#1745 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2004
Name: could be named Mirage 2000D R2.1 L16
Date: make it 2010. Updates fitted in between have no use in COMANO (eg. Flight Recorder, Rover).
Sensors: add #1673 - Generic Binoculars -- Anti-Air & Surface (the pilot uses while the WSO (NOSA,"Navigateur officier systèmes d’armes", in French parlance) use the pod.
Mounts: add 1 LLC (Lance-Leurres de Crête) that adds 48 flares (6*8), eg. http://i.gyazo.com/c769d36ae92e0a3e1dbd753851cb75ae.png
T.25 250kg
Stores:
- Delete #823 - GBU-22/B Paveway III LGB [Mk82] (only came in 2011).
- Delete #871 - GBU-24A/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109/B] (only came in 2011).
- Delete #1508 - T.25 250kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1507 - T.200 400kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1892 - AS.30L -- 1989 (too expensive to maintain).
- Delete #1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway (not needed anymore since stand-off are available).
- Delete #1561 - BAT.120 Anti-Armour (idem).
- Add #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986.
- Add #2061 - GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB [Mk82]
Loadouts:
- Delete AS.30L, BAT.100, BAT.120 fits, T.25 250kg, T.200 400kg, GBU-22 and GBU-24 loadouts.
- GBU-12D/B LGB and GBU-49 + PDLCT loadout can be cloned and the PDLCT replaced by an #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986 pod, its camera does offer a better definition (IRL, not sure it does in COMANO).
- Make R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 optional as either only one or none are usually carried over Afghanistan (1 is kept to help find the tanker, due to poor A/A abilities of the radar)
- Clone aicraft #1715's GBU-49 loadout
Comms/Datalinks:
- add Link 16 JTIDS
- VHF/FM Radio (Secure), 1 Channel (for Air-to-Ground comms, especially when IED jammer are used by troops on the ground)

[*]#1715 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2011
Name: could be named Mirage 2000D R2.1 (Harmattan)
Sensors: add #1673 - Generic Binoculars -- Anti-Air & Surface (the pilot uses while the WSO (NOSA,"Navigateur officier systèmes d’armes", in French parlance) use the pod.
Mounts: add 1 LLC (Lance-Leurres de Crête) that adds 48 flares (6*8), eg. http://i.gyazo.com/c769d36ae92e0a3e1dbd753851cb75ae.png
T.25 250kg
Stores:
- Delete #1508 - T.25 250kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1507 - T.200 400kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1892 - AS.30L -- 1989 (too expensive to maintain).
- Delete #1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway (not needed anymore since stand-off are available).
- Delete #1561 - BAT.120 Anti-Armour (idem).
- Add #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986.
- Add #1924 - GBU-16B/B Paveway II LGB [Mk83].
Loadouts:
- Delete AS.30L, BAT.100, BAT.120 fits, T.25 250kg, T.200 400kg.
- GBU-12D/B LGB and GBU-49 + PDLCT loadout can be cloned and the PDLCT replaced by an #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986 pod, its camera does offer a better definition (IRL, not sure it does in COMANO).
- Loadout with 2 GBU-24A/B LGB is, AFAIK, not operational.
- Clone the "Long Range" GBU-24 loadout and swp the GBU-24A/B LGB with a #1924 - GBU-16B/B Paveway II LGB [Mk83].
Comms/Datalinks:
- add Link 16 JTIDS
- VHF/FM Radio (Secure), 1 Channel (for Air-to-Ground comms, especially when IED jammer are used by troops on the ground)

[*]#2861 - Mirage 2000D -- France (Air Force), 2014
Name: could be named Mirage 2000D R2.1 (Serval)
Date: should 2013 (you then encompass 2012 to 2014 included)
Sensors: add #1673 - Generic Binoculars -- Anti-Air & Surface (the pilot uses while the WSO (NOSA,"Navigateur officier systèmes d’armes", in French parlance) use the pod.
Mounts: add 1 LLC (Lance-Leurres de Crête) that adds 48 flares (6*8), eg. http://i.gyazo.com/c769d36ae92e0a3e1dbd753851cb75ae.png
T.25 250kg
Stores:
- Delete #1508 - T.25 250kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1507 - T.200 400kg GPB (no more dumb bombs).
- Delete #1892 - AS.30L -- 1989 (too expensive to maintain).
- Delete #1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway (not needed anymore since stand-off are available).
- Delete #1561 - BAT.120 Anti-Armour (idem).
- Add #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986.
- Add #1924 - GBU-16B/B Paveway II LGB [Mk83].
- Add #479 - Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR + LRMTS, 40k ft]. (Supposed to replace PDLCT and Atlis but there ain't enough of them.)
- Add #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP (dumb bombs are back! These are used in airburst mode. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... rburst.JPG)
- Delete #1031 - ASTAC Pod [ESM], as of today, while it's ongoing, that mounting is not yet cleared and will probably not be until 2015.
Loadouts:
- Delete AS.30L, BAT.100, BAT.120 fits, T.25 250kg, T.200 400kg.
- GBU-12D/B LGB and GBU-49 + PDLCT loadout can be cloned and the PDLCT replaced by an #1771 - Atlis II Pod [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] -- 1986 pod, its camera does offer a better definition (IRL, not sure it does in COMANO).
- Loadout with 2 GBU-24A/B LGB is, AFAIK, not operational.
- Clone the "Long Range" GBU-24 loadout and swp the GBU-24A/B LGB with a #1924 - GBU-16B/B Paveway II LGB [Mk83].
- Duplicate all PDLCT loadouts and put in a Damocles instead of the PDCLT.
- Create a loadout with 1 #898 - PDLCT Pod, 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 3 #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP
- Create a loadout with 1 #1771 - Atlis II Pod, 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 3 #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP
- Create a loadout with 1 #479 - Damocles LDP Pod, 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 3 #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP
- Delete Astac loadout.

Comms/Datalinks:
- add Link 16 JTIDS
- VHF/FM Radio (Secure), 1 Channel (for Air-to-Ground comms, especially when IED jammer are used by troops on the ground)


Hope it helps.


Edit: typo andf further researchs tends to prove that 2 GBU-12 were carried from the start (early version of Rafaut AUF-2).
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RE: Mirage 2000D fest for DB3000

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Thanks Jan. Very detailed and sourced. Added to our list.
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RE: Mirage 2000D fest for DB3000

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Forgive the newbie question: how do I pick up the current DB3000 I am seeing here?
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RE: Mirage 2000D fest for DB3000

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Go to the game menu, editor drop down and then pick the database and version you would like to use (newest is default unless you load a scenario then it the version the db was created with).

The requests entered above will be added in time and released with future updates. When I say logged or added to list its me marking the string to know what I've added to our work list.

Thanks!

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R27T and ET Alamo's B D

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R27T and ET Alamo's B D?

Is there a reason why these missiles are omitted from most of the SU-27 and MiG-29 loads?
Recent photos of RuAF Su-27's being greeted by the RAF in June 2014 show them carrying R-27T's.
It appears at least the R-27T is still in use?

Can the loads be remedied for the next DB update please?

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RE: R27T and ET Alamo's B D

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#69 - MRK Nanuchka IV [Pr.1234.2 Ovod]

I think the surface to air radar is pointing in the wrong direction?
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RE: R27T and ET Alamo's B D

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Small detail but couple F-16AMs are missing Helmet mounted sight property:

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RE: R27T and ET Alamo's B D

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Tomcat's post reminded that, on the other hand, Rafale doesn't enjoy such an equipment.


[*]#3639 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
[*]#3640 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
[*]#3641 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2011, F03
[*]#3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
[*]#3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
[*]#1749 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
[*]#560 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
[*]#2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
[*]#3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
[*]#1179 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2002, F01.1
[*]#2084 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2004, F01.1
[*]#35 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2009, F03
[*]#2345 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2011, F03
[*]#2789 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2014, F03
[*]#3231 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2019, F03
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Properties:
no Helmet Mounted Sight / Display (HMS/HMS)


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- Air & Cosmos
- Air Fan
- Combat Aircraft Monthly
- http://www.checksix-forums.com/ Various fine people actually in the forces.
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RE: Mirage 2000N orgy for DB3000

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Hi community,

time to give 2000N some love.

Please note that it's all from public sources with their share of contradictions, so I sometimes had to take best guess, hopefully being decently close to operational reality..

Sources:
(same as Mirage 2000D above plus these specific sources:)
- Jane's Strategic Weapon Systems #42 (2005)
- The Naval Institute Guide to World Naval Weapon Systems #5 (2006)
- "AMD-BA Mirage 2000 N, Les matériels de l'armée de l'air et de l'aéronavale n°12" (2012), Hervé Beaumont, ISBN: 978-2352502081.
- http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipeme ... oc470042_2
- http://www.defense.gouv.fr/layout/set/p ... -harmattan
- http://www.lepoint.fr/editos-du-point/j ... 090_53.php
- http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/rap-info/i1233.asp
- Air & Cosmos HS27, FAS special
- Air Fan #432
- Air Actualités Hors-Série Harmattan 2012


[*]#55 - ASMP [300kT Nuclear] -- 1987
Date: make it from 1988 to 2011, first squadron being operational in July 1988 (EC. 1/4 "Dauphiné") and ASMP being "retired" in May 2011.
Surface Max Range: 43nm (80km) low alt, 216nm (400km) high alt (Aéropostiale claims 80-100 km at "low altitude" and "400-450 km" at "high altitude)

[*]#719 - ASMP-A [300kT Nuclear] -- 2011
Date: 2009 (operational from October 1st 2009, EC. 3/4 "Limousin" at Istres)
Surface Max Range: 270nm (500km) high alt. (best guess, since sources claim up to 100% gain while other simply talks about a "considerable enhancement".)


[*]#1180 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 1989
[*]#19 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 1997
[*]#1283 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 2000
[*]#25 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 2003
[*]#1467 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 2007

Sensors: add: #2241 - AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles
Mounts: delete Alkan LL5602. (Wrong capacity and name could be better, see individual proposal below.)

Properties:
- Replace "Night Navigation (Ferry, Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles)" by "Night Navigation/Attack (Incl. Bomb, Rocket Delivery)"
- Add Terrain Following (Land: 200ft (60.9m), Sea: 100ft (30.5m))

Military Static Thrust at S/L: should be 6562, (64.35 kN).
Afterburner Static Thrust at S/L:: should be 9700, (95.13 kN).
Military Static SFC at S/L: should be 0.92.
Specific fuel flow with full AB: should be 2.12.

Stores: #1786 - Rubis Navigation Pod [FLIR] should be removed, same from all and any loadouts. France only used it on Mirage F1CR from 1999 to 2003.


-<<Following proposals only applies to the specific platform # and assume that aforementioned changes have been applied first >>-

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[*]#1180 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 1989
Name: could be named "Mirage 2000N K1"
Date: from 1988 to 1998, by 1999 all K1 were upgraded to K2 standard.
Stores: delete everything but the 2000 liter Drop Tank, ASMP and R.550 Magic 2.
Loadouts: keep only the ASMP loadout.
Engine: it does have an M53-P2.

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[*]#19 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 1997
Name: could be named "Mirage 2000N K2"
Date: from 1989 to 2002.
Mounts:
- add 1x Spirale ICD x 2 (112 Cartridges), same as on #1467 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 2007.
- add same Eclair Flares/Chaffs suggested for the 2000D.
Stores:
- Add #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP.
Loadouts:
- As far as I know, "Short-Range" type of loadout (with 6 bombs) have never been used in combat nor training.
- Nor T.200 400kg.
- As on 2000D, saw only 12 BAT.100 or BAT.120 fitted (and only during excercices, not actual ops).
- A loadout with 4 T.25 bombs can be cloned and T.25 replaced by #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP

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[*]#1283 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 2000
Name: could be named "Mirage 2000N K2 (DDM)"
Date: from 2002 to 2011. By Sept. 2011, all K2 are removed from service.
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM.
Mounts:
- add same Eclair Flares/Chaffs suggested for the 2000D.
Stores:
- Add #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP.
- Delete #1508 - T.25 250kg GPB.
- Delete #1507 - T.200 400kg GPB.
Loadouts:
- As far as I know, "Short-Range" type of loadout (with 6 bombs) have never been used in combat nor training.
- As on 2000D, saw only 12 BAT.100 or BAT.120 fitted (and only during excercices, not actual ops).
- Delete BAP.100, BAT.120, T.25 250kg and T.200 400kg loadouts.
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 4 #1814 - Mk82 500lb LDGP

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[*]#25 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 2003
Name: could be named "Mirage 2000N K2 (Harmattan)"
Date: make it 2011 to 2011. By Sept. 2011, all K2 are removed from service.
Sensors: add #1673 - Generic Binoculars -- Anti-Air & Surface (they also were equipped with commercial Olympus SZ-30MR 24x hand held digital camera, didn't find similar sensor in the DB though).
Stores:
- Add #1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]
- Add #1924 - GBU-16B/B Paveway II LGB [Mk83].
- Add #823 - GBU-22/B Paveway III LGB [Mk82].
- Add #871 - GBU-24A/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109/B].
- Delete #1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway.
- Delete #1561 - BAT.120 Anti-Armour.
- Delete #1508 - T.25 250kg GPB.
- Delete #1507 - T.200 400kg GPB.
Loadouts:
- Delete BAP.100, BAT.120, T.25 250kg and T.200 400kg loadouts.
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 2 #1906 - GBU-12D/B
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 2 #823 - GBU-22/B
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 1 #1924 - GBU-16B/B
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 1 #871 - GBU-24A/B

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[*]#1467 - Mirage 2000N -- France (Air Force), 2007
Name: could be named "Mirage 2000N K3"
Date: 2009-2018, operational from October 1st 2009, EC. 3/4 "Limousin" at Istres, then in 2018 Nuclear deterrence is planed to become Rafale's business only.
Sensors: add #1673 - Generic Binoculars -- Anti-Air & Surface (they also were equipped with commercial Olympus SZ-30MR 24x hand held digital camera, didn't find similar sensor in the DB though).
Stores:
- Add #1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]
- Add #1924 - GBU-16B/B Paveway II LGB [Mk83].
- Add #823 - GBU-22/B Paveway III LGB [Mk82].
- Add #871 - GBU-24A/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109/B].
- Add #719 - ASMP-A [300kT Nuclear].
- Delete #1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway.
- Delete #1561 - BAT.120 Anti-Armour.
- Delete #1508 - T.25 250kg GPB.
- Delete #1507 - T.200 400kg GPB.
- Delete #55 - ASMP [300kT Nuclear].
Loadouts:
- Delete BAP.100, BAT.120, T.25 250kg and T.200 400kg loadouts.
- Delete ASMP loadout.
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 2 #1906 - GBU-12D/B
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 2 #823 - GBU-22/B
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 1 #1924 - GBU-16B/B
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 optional #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 1 #871 - GBU-24A/B
- Create a loadout with 2 #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 2 #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 and 1 #719 - ASMP-A
Properties:
- Replace "Night Navigation/Attack (Incl. Bomb, Rocket Delivery)" by "Bombsight - Advanced Navigation (INS/GPS)"

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Hope it helps.
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RE: Mirage 2000N orgy for DB3000

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Added to our list up until this point. Thanks guys!

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RE: Mirage 2000N orgy for DB3000

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Minor/ picking nit issue: Weapon_2493 AN/SSQ-57M is a 2/3 "A-size" sonobuoy, not an "A size". See Friedman, Norman, . The Naval

Institute Guide to World Naval Weapon Systems, 1997-1998. Annapolis, Md: Naval Institute Press, 1997, pg. 656. Jane's also says the same.
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RE: Brazilian 2000C for DB3000

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Let's have a trip down south.

Sources:
- "Latin American Mirages - Mirage III / 5 / F.1 / 2000 in Service with South American Air Arms" (2010), Santiago Rivas and Juan Carlos Cicales, ISBN 978-0-9825539-4-7.
- "Manuel Pilote Mirage 2000-c", Armée de l'Air.
- "No more Mirages over Brazil" Airforces Monthly #311 Feb. 2014, Santiago Rivas.
- "Turbofan and Turbojet Engines: database handbook" (2007), Élodie Roux, ISBN 978-2-9529380-1-3.
- F-2000, o ‘gap filler’ da defesa aérea do Brasil | Poder Aéreo - Informação e Discussão sobre Aviação Militar e Civil
- Renato LTE's album on Flickr

[*]#1014 - Mirage 2000C -- Brazil (Air Force), 2007-0
Name: "F-2000C"
Date: 2006-2013
Mounts:
- delete Spirale ICD and CDM
- add 1x Eclair that brings 2*8 Flares + 1x Eclair again that provides 1* 18 Chaffs, fitted at the expense of the drogue parachute: https://flic.kr/p/hxfBo9
Stores:
- delete 1700 liter Drop Tank
- add 2000 liter Drop Tank
Loadouts:
- Ferry loadout, replace 1700 liter DT by 2000 liter DT.
Engine: 1x M53-5
Military Static Thrust at S/L: 5547 (54401 N).
Afterburner Static Thrust at S/L:: 8995 (88208 N).

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Notes:
Brazil also bought:
- 10 Matra Super 530D (plus 4 CATM)
- 22 Matra Magic 2 (plus 6 CATM)
- 3750 30mm rounds
- 288 flares and 64 chaffs
- 10 1300 l fuel tanks
- 6 2000 l fuel tanks

The airframes, built in 1984, had about 1,000 hours of flight "available".
Deliveries extended from 2006 (2 delivered) to 2008 (4 in 2007, 4 more in 2008), 2 two-seater ("F-2000B") were also delivred (first in 2006, second in 2007).

They were flown by 1o. Grupo de Defesa Aérea "Esquadrão Jaguar" who's mission is to protect the capital, now flying F-5EM, from Base Aérea de Anápolis (SBAN).

AA loadout pic: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jg206/149 ... 421950777/


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RE: Brazilian 2000C for DB3000

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#3320 - MiG-29K Fulcrum D add probe-refueling http://severpost.ru/docs/upload/1409921900.jpg

#57 - Su-33 Flanker D add probe refueling http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-p ... 789063.jpg (you'll see the probe just below the IRST)

#2689 - Su-35S Flanker add probe refueling

In the DB most SU-27´s have probe refueling, while in fact no variant, not even J-11 or SU-27SM appear to have aerial refueling capability.

SU-30SM seem to become operational soon, or maybe they are already, not too much data though.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/russia ... 1651171036

http://www.airforce-technology.com/proj ... -aircraft/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30#Variants

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... 30sm-order

#3494 - MiG-35 Foxglove [MiG 1.42 MFI] experimental aircraft? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_Project_1.44

She would need another designation then, the MIG-35 is a MIG-29 variant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-35
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

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Good call Mr Burns!

These two variant are fitted with a refuelling probe:

[*]#920 - MiG-29K Fulcrum D -- India (Air Force), 2014
http://i.gyazo.com/fced530b20467544d018038c61da86fd.png

A "buddy to buddy" config have been tested:
"The heaviest ‘Fulcrum’configuration flown off the deck of INS Vikramaditya during the 2012 campaign was the ‘buddy-buddy’ tanker, incorporating one centreline PAZ-1MK refuelling pod and four underwing tanks."
http://i.gyazo.com/36266c7d15587d89fdc9ba6f23c47fca.png

Source: "MiG-29K SHIPBORNE‘FULCRUM’COMES OF AGE", Alexander Mladenov, Combat Aircraft Monthly Vol14 No7 July 2013.


[*]#844 - MiG-29SMT Fulcrum C -- Russia [1992-] (Air Force), 2011
http://i.gyazo.com/16243cbf166dffa4c72cf535ca4e2558.png
http://i.gyazo.com/0404872056cd688d6c2907a873aec38b.png

However:
"Despite the presence of air-to-air refuelling probes on both the single and two-seat MiG-29s at Kursk, the regiment has not yet begun practising the skill because the Flight Test Centre at Akhtubinsk has not yet completed air-to-air refuelling trials to validate the procedure and add the appropriate amendments to the types’ flight manuals. The MiG-29UBT’s retractable refuelling
probe is installed for pilot training purposes and is not connected to the fuel system – it is capable of practising dry contacts only.
"

Source: "Russian Air Force Fulcrums", Alexander Mladenov, AirForces Monthly #318 SEPTEMBER 2014
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