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So regardless of what one think of Mel Gibson, I do not think it is fair to include three of his movies here.
It's worse than that. Counting his voice acting in Pocahontas (as John Smith), make that four movies.

But I agree. The maker of that stupid list holds a grudge against Gibson.

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... there are some 1,000 movies that could have made some iteration of that top 10 list. All the aforementioned actors made some doosies that, by all rights, should be relegated to the dustbins of cinematic history. Some of the author's top 10 list are slam dunks (TMTSNBN), others more personal (possibly anti-Gibson) bias. To each their own.
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typical anti-British tripe nonetheless.....
How can anything anti-British not be good cinema?

I remember first seeing "The Patriot" at Eagle Base, Tuzla, as Mel Gibson -- in a Hollywood Hawaiian shirt -- intro'd the film for us serving in what he called "beautiful downtown Bosnia".

An English officer of engineers serving with us wasn't amused either.

"The Patriot" was rousing action and a good distraction from the monotony of peace keeping, but not only was it ahistorical, it so whitewashed everything colonial while stereotyping the Brits to the point of character assassination that this New Englander couldn't possibly defend it with a straight face.
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Wouldn't this discussion be simpler if we resorted to naming films that are at least not horribly inaccurate?

Let's see, hmmm I will get back to you if I can think of one.

To be clear, we're talking about feature films right? Not documentaries (not that calling something a documentary is going to be any help).
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... To be clear, we're talking about feature films right? Not documentaries (not that calling something a documentary is going to be any help).

The so-called History Channel has played that card before, e.g., The World Wars.
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I'm pretty sure Inglourious Basterds has some inaccuracies. IIRC, Hitler wasn't killed in a Parisian movie house by Jewish-American commandos. [8D]
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There were a few mistakes in the plane and firearm props used in Hot Shots!, but otherwise the plot was very faithful to the historical record.
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There were a few mistakes in the plane and firearm props used in Hot Shots!, but otherwise the plot was very faithful to the historical record.
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Hot Shots Part Deux - Just Deux it, was even more true to life.

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There were a few mistakes in the plane and firearm props used in Hot Shots!, but otherwise the plot was very faithful to the historical record.

No it wasn't. The hemipupilectomy that "Washout" (to correct 'walleye vision') had to get via trans-rectal surgery is a decidedly poorer approach than the traditional ocular surgery. These medical errors ruined the film for me.
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My personal vote would be the Errol Flynn version of the Charge of the Light Brigade:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Charge ... 1936_film)

"Santa Fe Trail", also starring Flynn, had some howlers about John Brown's Raid as well.
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Winslet's whatsits?

I think not, sir! They were quite fine. Indeed one of the best parts of the movie!
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Well they at least provided some relief from the tedium that was that wretched film. Just a shame the iceberg didn't claim them both. EDIT: sorry that's him and her not both her whatsits....

I thought Titanic was the best comedy of the 90's. I got lot's of laughs from it.
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I thought Titanic was the best comedy of the 90's. I got lot's of laughs from it.

The guy hitting the propeller on the way down was objectively one of the best moments of unintentional comedy in any film.
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Oh and the new 300 Spartans, yes, very accurate. Especially that hunchback looking thing and that creature that almost killed Leonidas. [:D] But, honestly who amoung you really knows what happened on that day in history. Remember now you just read it in some book by someone who read it in some book by someone who read it in some library an on an on. The story has been passed down so many times who's really to knows what happened? [:D] I just can't believe the Persian King was that stupid when he had so many options of beating the Spartans at Thermopoly. I could have done it with two ranks of archers and a few elephants.
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I had a boss that took his wife to Titanic. He said about 20-30 mins in, he got up and said he was going to the bathroom. He went out had 2-3 beers at a local bar. Then he came back and he said the ship was still sinking. His wife didn't even notice how long he was gone. Win/Win.
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I had a boss that took his wife to Titanic. He said about 20-30 mins in, he got up and said he was going to the bathroom. He went out had 2-3 beers at a local bar. Then he came back and he said the ship was still sinking. His wife didn't even notice how long he was gone. Win/Win.
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So he probably missed Winslet's whatsits...
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From what I recall Waterloo was relatively accurate - and a bloody good film.

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300 was probably inaccurate - but what a thoroughly enjoyable film it was [&o]

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From what I recall Waterloo was relatively accurate - and a bloody good film.

No. I mean, the actual battle was over quite a large area. Prussians, British and other Europeans were fighting the French, right? But in all that movie, you'd a thunk that there could have been even a *bit* of attention paid to the Americans present? This lack of attention to the American contribution to the battle killed it for me.
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From what I recall Waterloo was relatively accurate - and a bloody good film.

No. I mean, the actual battle was over quite a large area. Prussians, British and other Europeans were fighting the French, right? But in all that movie, you'd a thunk that there could have been even a *bit* of attention paid to the Americans present? This lack of attention to the American contribution to the battle killed it for me.
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And you are quite wrong sir. Who was Wellington's deputy quarter-master General? Why, none other than Colonel Sir William Howe De Lancey.

Where was he born? New York.

By the way, he died a very unpleasant death.... a richocheting canonball making mincemeat of his ribs and internal organs, leaving him to die in agony days later, nursed by the woman he had only recently married.

He is played in the film by the geezer that played the Saint - not Roger Moore the other one.


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