Most Historically Inaccurate Movies

[Orm]

Other notable absences from that list: "Windtalkers", "The Thin Red Line", etc. etc.

Red Tails

[warspite1]

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It sucks.

Winslet's whatsits?

I think not, sir! They were quite fine. Indeed one of the best parts of the movie!

warspite1

Well they at least provided some relief from the tedium that was that wretched film. Just a shame the iceberg didn't claim them both. EDIT: sorry that's him and her not both her whatsits....

[Chickenboy]

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Battle of The Bulge - that contained elements of various parts of the wider battle depicted solely through the actions of Robert Shaw's character.

Aieeeee! Stop! Just stop! [:(]

Was that the one where the Americans broke up the German schwerpunkt by rolling barrels of gasoline down a hill onto advancing German tanks? Just...no...

[warspite1]

And....

The Sound of Music. I kid you not. There were 10 children not seven and the names were not accurate.

They married eleven years before they fled Austria.

She was not a governess to all the children.

They did not escape over the mountains - they went by train.

[Orm]

The bunker. [:D]

[warspite1]

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Battle of The Bulge - that contained elements of various parts of the wider battle depicted solely through the actions of Robert Shaw's character.

Aieeeee! Stop! Just stop! [:(]

Was that the one where the Americans broke up the German schwerpunkt by rolling barrels of gasoline down a hill onto advancing German tanks? Just...no...

warspite1

I hope you're not going to pretend that didn't happen?

[Chickenboy]

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And....

The Sound of Music. I kid you not. There were 10 children not seven and the names were not accurate.

They married eleven years before they fled Austria.

She was not a governess to all the children.

They did not escape over the mountains - they went by train.

Also, the "SS" in that film were still wearing the brown shirts of the SA. Hadn't they been liquidated by that time?

[warspite1]

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And....

The Sound of Music. I kid you not. There were 10 children not seven and the names were not accurate.

They married eleven years before they fled Austria.

She was not a governess to all the children.

They did not escape over the mountains - they went by train.

Also, the "SS" in that film were still wearing the brown shirts of the SA. Hadn't they been liquidated by that time?

warspite1

I don't know when they stopped wearing them. The Night of the Long Knives was 1934 but the SA remained in existence until the end of the war. Didn't the Hitler youth wear brown?

[sullafelix]

" Battle of the Bulge " was the movie with the barrels of gasoline.

I try to watch it now and again but once i see the " tiger tanks " I always shut it off.

[TulliusDetritus]

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I do get that you are annoyed with Mel Gibson and maybe others as well, But I would prefer to discuss the merits of the movies or lack of merits.

Maybe I am just envious. I can only dream of a Hollywood or Mel Gibson movie depicting Swedish history.

warspite1

Please see post 27. It depends on what you take to be important, plus I just cannot accuse a film of historical inaccuracy when there is no certainty that they key player even existed.

Can one not say the same about Apocalypto?

I have not seen it so I am only guessing here.

Apocalypto IS a very good movie. I recommend it to everyone. Still, I don't know why Gibson made the Mayans last until the early 1500s. Apart from that, original, interesting story.

To me Gibson was some sort of Mad Max (remember that cult movie?). Then - from what I read- they guy was er... really *weird*

Had they told me (before watching them) Apocalypto and then the movie about Jesus were directed by Gibson, I would have inmediately thought "you're drunk or kidding me!" But somehow this rather weird guy managed to make two excellent movies (and this, I thought it would be 100% impossible).

Apocalypto => 7.8 (a really high scoring for IMDB).
The Passion of the Christ => 7.1

[warspite1]

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warspite1

Please see post 27. It depends on what you take to be important, plus I just cannot accuse a film of historical inaccuracy when there is no certainty that they key player even existed.

Can one not say the same about Apocalypto?

I have not seen it so I am only guessing here.

Apocalypto IS a very good movie. I recommend it to everyone. Still, I don't know why Gibson made the Mayans last until the early 1500s. Apart from that, original, interesting story.

To me Gibson was some sort of Mad Max (remember that cult movie?). Then - from what I read- they guy was er... really *weird*

Had they told me (before watching them) Apocalypto and then the movie about Jesus were directed by Gibson, I would have inmediately thought "you're drunk or kidding me!" But somehow this rather weird guy managed to make two excellent movies (and this, I thought it would be 100% impossible).

Apocalypto => 7.8 (a really high scoring for IMDB).
The Passion of the Christ => 7.1

warspite1

Yes but being good films isn't what the thread is about. Personally I really enjoyed JFK (despite Costner) as a piece of drama - but I understand its historically highly suspect.

8.0 on IMDb

[aaatoysandmore]

Braveheart was the best movie ever made and was very accurate. [:'(] I watch it yearly like Zulu and Zulu Dawn and the Alamo with John Wayne. [:D]

[TulliusDetritus]

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Yes but being good films isn't what the thread is about. Personally I really enjoyed JFK (despite Costner) as a piece of drama - but I understand its historically highly suspect.
8.0 on IMDb

I know [:)] I was replying particularly to this:

ORIGINAL: Orm
I do get that you are annoyed with Mel Gibson and maybe others as well, But I would prefer to discuss the merits of the movies or lack of merits.

The very *unexpected* merits of the two Gibson's aforementioned movies that is. I should be really really drunk to watch Braveheart, The Patriot etc. etc. Different leagues. That's why I'm positively surprised with Mad Max er Mr Gibson [&o]

[sullafelix]

As bad as the " Patriot " was it was the first film that showed how cannonballs actually worked.

[Mobeer]

Here's an entirely different list to the original post:

#10 Joan of Arc - too simplified?
#9 The Green Berets - with John Wayne playing head cowboy
#8 They Died with Their Boots On - not the Custer I studied in school
#7 Troy - the attackers "leave" so quickly after arrivng? and that's not odd?
#6 The Battle for Anzio - you can just drive a jeep into Rome?
#5 U-571 - US alone wins the war
#4 300 - Spartans and no-one else?
#3 The Battle of the Bulge - tank battles in wide open fields under the sun?
#2 Objective, Burma! - see U-571
#1 Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors - "TAXI, TAXI", what a battle cry (1hr 8min in)

[Gilmer]

Tora! Tora! Tora! was inaccurate, because everyone knows it was the Germans who bombed Pearl Harbor.

Braveheart is very inaccurate historically, but it is a good movie.

What about the Great Escape? I always hear people saying how inaccurate that was, what with many Americans, even though supposedly they weren't there?

[sullafelix]

The Great Escape!

if you don't have that movie you don't have Maggie Simpson escaping from daycare.

[ezzler]

What's the one where Captain Brown is shot down by Richtofen..twice? I think its just called the Red Baron.
More historical inaccuracies in one movie than a Braveheart.

[Aurelian]

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warspite1

I would have thought U-571 and possibly Titanic warranted a mention....

Oh, and thank-you for listing [:)]

And I thought that King Arthur would have been in the list as well as U-571.

I wonder what criteria they used to select the movies. I do get that they had a thing for Mel Gibson movies but what other criteria were there?

warspite1

Well to be fair, Mel Gibson is a bit of a twat.

When asked by a local why the Battle of Stirling Bridge was filmed on an open plain, Gibson answered that "the bridge got in the way". "Aye," the local answered. "That's what the English found."

[OldSarge]

My vote is reserved for Chris Lambert in Druid/The Gaul/Vercingetorix apparently it came out under different names. Stirrups?! The Romans/Gauls had 'stirrups for their horses?! The only scene worth watching is a scene at Alesia with Warspite's beloved "whatsits" - even they can't save it! [>:]

I'm only glad I picked it out of the bargain bin!