[UPDATE] New Scenario: Hold the Line

[Dimitris]

bump

[RoryAndersonCDT]

Bump! And I'm thinking of playing this scenario on my upcoming Saturday stream. [:D]

[Gunner98]

Ok, I'll clean it up and get the latest version online tomorrow AM.

Thanks

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[Gunner98]

OK, new file uploaded. I have been going crazy trying to get the first few scenarios in the Battle set done, this one went to the back burner (although it is my favorite so far). Scenario 4 - A Cold and Lonely Place, should be out this weekend. Scenario 5 is quite a bit bigger and will need a bit more time. Will probably go final on Scenario 1 & 2 this weekend as well.

Scenarios 7, 9, 10 & 11 are in rough form, scenario 9 is massive, 11 is bigger[X(]. Need to get off my butt and rough out scenario 6 so the Brits can be more involved

Enjoy

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[Count Sessine]

Hi Gunner98

Do you have an updated version of this scenario? I'm thinking with the optimizations to the engine, it'll run just fine.

[Gunner98]

Count

I was planning on breaking it into a couple or 3 smaller bits - but you might be right. Give me a day or so and I'll update it and tidy it up a touch and put it back up.

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[Count Sessine]

Cool

[Gunner98]

OK here is an updated version of this scenario:

Updated to DB3000 Build 418
Put Prosecution zones in for all sides
Adjusted a couple minor bits that I had been meaning to do


Advice required on splitting this one apart. My preference is to keep it together but if it needs splitting than the logical breakouts would be:
NF 8.0 Hold the line - focusing just on the Enterprise CVBG, stripping away all(most) Land based air and the SLOC/ALOC
NF 8.1 Air fight over the arctic with MiG-31s vs the ANG F-15 Sqn out of Thule
NF 8.2 Convoys only, being attacked by subs & some LR aviation
NF 8.3 The Air bridge, some Ftrs out of Kef leak through and attempt to hit the air bridge, only units available to defend it are the Brit Tornados and Cdn F-18 both a very long way from home

Any other comments are more than welcome.

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[ojms]

I vote for keeping it together, I started 1.02 earlier but will restart on this new version. I had added in prosecution zones of my own anyway.

Cheers!

[Count Sessine]

Thanks Gunner, I'll give it whirl and let you know

[Triode]

Very interesting scenario
I think Big scenario is better than divided into parts

Few minor thing :

1)Kalinin air defence
From book "Nuclear-powered missile cruisers Project 1144" by Captain 1st Rank, Candidate of Military Sciences, Professor V.P.Kuzin.
citation:

"S-300F mounted on TARKR as a major caliber anti-air defense, did not escape the "itch disease" improvement from vehicle to vehicle. If "Kirov" and next "Frunze" (for brevity, we shall yet call them "original" names) received two identical SAM with SAM 5V55RM with common ammunition 96 missiles in 12 launcher B-203A, then on the 3rd - "Kalinin" - to S-300F applied not only better, but also more "thick" and long SAM 48N6E. This, of course, required some modification of the launchers.
In addition to improving the actual rockets used for SAM 48N6E better system (methods) guidance added, which required changing some hardware components of the complex.

Generally, the 2nd ship pr.1144 conceived as a "highly advanced" already during the construction of the head. He (projects) even was given the number 11442. was supposed to be built pr.11442 all subsequent TARKR, but nevertheless all three cruisers, pr.11442 turned out different.

Death of B.I.Kupenskiy caused appointment as chief designer pr.1144 V.A.Perevalov. Chief watching from the Navy remained A.A.Savin, but since that time he has held the position of Deputy(and then, since 1985 - chief) of the Office of surface ships TSNIIVK,he duplicated it in some cases by A.N.Blinov (Ch. Watching by pr.1164).

The 4th TARKR - "Andropov" (3rd on pr.11442) - received one of the S-300F and one S-300FM. The latest development on the basis of the Army C-300PMU2 "Favorite" with the new SAM - 48N6E2. Due to the design of the rocket ammo reduced by 2 missiles. All the Control Room of the complex has undergone changes, including and AP firing radar (military designation F1M). The new version of the complex were significantly expanded zone of destruction of targets in range, height and bottom border, increases the possibility of intercepting high-speed (including ballistic) targets and dramatically increased channel on target and the missile."

2)projects 1155.1 in scenario

They have 130nm range Sunburns (Moskit-MVE),for 1994 it should be 70nm version (Moskit-E)
Moskit-MVE completed tests only in 2005
citation from official site "Russian federal programs" from 2006-06-05

"Activities conducted Rospromom in improving industrial policy, including in the framework of relevant FTPs allowed to carry out a number of projects in the aviation industry. In particular, completed flight testing of cruise missiles "Mosquito-MBE", X-102, received certification for the Tu-204-300, the Be-103 (Brazil, China)."

Well this is minor issues and I really enjoyed this scenario [:)]
Looking forward to see other scenarios from this set.

[Gunner98]

Triode

Thank you for pointing that out, I'll change that for the next release. Those ships are in a couple other scenarios as well, so I'll have to check on them.

Scenarios 1,2,4,5 & 5.5 are already released and the latest versions are in the community scenario thread above:
tm.asp?m=3618478&mpage=3

Working on 6 & 7 now.

Thanks for the feedback.


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[Triode]

Thanks for the information

I will try them all

[magi]

I just turned this on...... Geezzz.... Very mondo.... Cool...... I need a bigger monitor..... Looks great..... You did a lot of work for this.... Whata guy.....

[Gunner98]

I need a bigger monitor.

Thanks.

I run 3, a 23" main screen, an old 21" for the msg log & a really old 18" for the Msn planner, DB and internet. Makes the game much more manageable. When I suggested a 30" my wife almost shot me [:D]

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[Gunner98]

ORIGINAL: Triode


Few minor thing :

1)Kalinin air defence

2)projects 1155.1 in scenario

OK, found a Project 1155.1 Udaloy II and changed it out for an Udaloy I (prj 1155) which do not carry any Sunburn missiles.

Not sure I understand the first point. There is both the Kirov (1st in series) and Frunze (2nd in series) in the game.
The DB3000 for Sov Union carries 2 versions of the Kirov (I chose the later one 84-91), and another entry for Kalinin and one for Frunze
The entries for Russia carries a version for Adm Lazarev (Ex-Frunze) and 2 versions of the Adm Nakhimov (Ex-Kalinin), the second being 2006 so is way out for the scenario.

Not sure where the issue is, could you help me out a bit? Is it a DB accuracy problem or have I chosen the wrong platform for the scenario?

Thanks

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[Triode]

Hmm apparently you're right, this is database problem.Incorrect represented Kalinin in database.
Well I see two solutions to this problem:

1)Simple solution.Instead use of Kalinin use Kirov

2)If you want to add some challenge to scenario manualy remove 5V55RM weapon records and add 48n6 weapon records and you get authentic Kalinin from 1994. In 1994 ship was yong, missile only ended testing phase (in 1993),testing limitation removed (1988-1993 Kalinin had limitations by software for 48n6 missile-93km range) so I think it will be interesting to see this ship in this intensive scenario

As i said, it is minor issues. Scenario is good, even if Kalinin in fact another Frunze.

[Gunner98]

OK Thanks
 
I'll do that in the next build.
 
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[Flankerk]

Tried this through from beginning to end, mostly as the newer computer is a lot faster!
Its a pretty massive scenario but seemed to run at a steady pace. I ended with a score of 619 as a triumph, though that took a lot of work. The cost in submarines in particular was high.
I think at first my air to air was poor as well, often at or about one for one.

The UK was rapidly overwhelmed with few defenders.
Thule I struggled to get involved due to the distances involved, almost the same with other mainland bases.

In the end the main damage air to air was probably the AMRAAM equipped F-18 once I'd tanked them all the way to the CV. The SLAMER were also pretty lethal.

I think the only potential issues as such were that the second Frunze detached from the main body, presumably to go hunting carriers.
The Soviets also struggled with distances thank goodness and the air cover only extended so far from Iceland.

[batek688]

I'm running V2 and I noticed the Enterprise BARCAP PZ is located out west while the patrol zone is up north. Was that intended? The other BARCAPs have the PZ surrounding the patrol zone.