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Thanks Mike, glad to see the Randy is already started. Seems the most potent to me. Every once in a while I get a good idea. It was I who gave the suggestion on CS/CVL conversion. I just wanted to add one thing. Someone suggested using Val's on 'em. I wouldn't. Don't think they get radar and they only carry one 250kg bomb. Kate 2's get radar and carry two bombs. I'd use them if I had them available.
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20 Dec 42

Sub War

Nothing.

5 Fleet

Adak is plugging along. An Ansyu-C PB is working its way there to resupply it further.

4 Fleet

All quiet.

SE Fleet

Well, the “big invasion” happened today. Ted put all of his bombers (70 sorties) on Milne Bay to hit the massive number of defending troops (the 4 SNLF Company) prior to invading with a small slice of the 503 parachute regiment. The shock attack got 3:1 odds reducing the forts from 3 to 0 and killing 3 of the 12 infantry squads. The remaining squads were all disrupted. Sneaky. That base ain’t gonna last long.

SRA

Nothing new

Burma

My raids against Chittagong did pretty well, killing 3 fighters and damaging about a dozen more, while doing some damage to the airfield. I lost 3 Helens to flak.

I invaded Little Andaman Island for a specific reason. From that base, my G3M3 can hit Colombo at normal range. I tried a night port attack and 10 Nells hit the base, for no effect and the loss of 1 Nell. That didn’t do anything, so I set the Nells for day naval attack on a narrow arc covering Colombo. I’ve been reconning that base and noticed that Ted has a lot of convoys in and out of there but there is nothing at the airfield. I stationed 36 G3M3 Nells there (20% search) hoping to hit the convoys soon. It’ll at least cause him to station fighters there, pulling them out of Burma most likely. We’ll see…

China

Nothing.

Other Stuff

I got confirmation that an xAK went down on 18 Jan 42 off San Francisco.

The following R&D models advanced:

D4Y1 – 3/43
Ki-100-II – 7/45

I will get the Judy by Feb 43. Even though they have a short range, they carry a nice bomb. Also, if you don’t recall, I overproduced their engine (still 600+ in the pool) so I’ll produce a lot of the Y1 & Y2. My goal is to have the Y3 & Y4.

I’m really excited about the Ki-100-II. I have high hopes for this model. I have 6x R&D factories working on it so I get 3.6 months of advances for each month. At that rate, I’ll get this model around 24 Apr 43! I’m thinking of making all 6 R&D factories operational, giving me 180 a month. What do you guys think about that? Right now I have 90 Tojos a month and 128 Oscars a month in production.
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21 Dec 42

Sub War

Nothing.

5 Fleet

Nothing.

4 Fleet

Nothing.

SE Fleet

The little slice of the 503 Parachute Regiment killed off the 4 SNLF Company, taking Milne Bay. I formed a surface bombardment group with a couple of BBs, and some cruisers with DD escort. I was thinking of bombarding the hell out of the paratroopers and invading with some of my own paratroopers to take it back. After I ended the turn, I reconsidered and went back in and disbanded the bombardment TF. I decided I didn’t want to give away the fact that I have significant naval assets in the area. That would have been fun, but I don’t think it’s worth giving that little surprise away.

SRA

Nothing.

Burma

Same old night bombing of Chittagong again.

China

I attacked the remnants of the Chinese base force with my tank regiment again, this time at Ansi. I pushed them out of the base causing another 25(7) casualties. They’re still alive! I’ll continue the chase.

Other Stuff

I heard sinking sounds but have no idea what went down. I hope it was one of those CAs I torpedoed a few days ago. I’ll find out in about 6 months or so…
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22 Dec 42

Sub War

The I-17, patrolling off San Francisco, got caught by an ASW TF and took a hit. Her damage isn’t severe, but she needs to head back home for repairs.

There is a US and Dutch sub off Davao. I don’t have many good ASW ships there but I’m trying to hit them, with no luck so far. I’ve moved my hub from here to Manila and Babeldaob, but there still is quite a bit of shipping moving in and out of Davao. Eventually, it’ll be quiet here.

Near Shortland Island, I was moving a small slice of AS south to Munda to manage the Emilies I want to base there for recon of Noumea. A US S class sub took out one of the xAKLs hauling the unit there. Fortunately, enough survived to make it to Munda and set up shop. Munda was one of the islands I took early in the war to make into a level 2 airfield, in case I needed it, which, it turned out, I did.

5 Fleet

Nothing new.

4 Fleet

Nothing new.

SE Fleet

The only excitement here today (other than the sub attack mentioned above) was 12x B-17Fs attacking troops(!) at Rabaul. I had 17x A6M2s, 16s Tojos, 14s Nicks and 5x Dinahs defending. At a cost of a Tojo and Dinah (1 WIA), I took out 5 of the monsters. There was no damage at all to my troops.

I wonder if Ted really is going to go for Rabaul. I have 7600 infantry (including the Guards Brigade) settled behind level 6 forts. That would be pretty painful for Ted. That’s beside 81 Betties and 85 Helens along with some 200+ fighters. Oh yeah, KB and the Combined Fleet are sitting at Truk and they have 102 A6M5, 210 A6M3a, 126 D3Y1 and 177 B5N1/2. That’s 500+ fighters and 470 DB/TB/LB, plus supporting aircraft, along with 8 BB (including Yamago & Musashi), 13 CA, ~6-8 CL & ~50 DD. I also have ~6 airfields to move my planes around on. Bring it on, Ted!

SRA

Nothing.

Burma

Same bombing. Killed a couple planes on the ground. Lost a couple Helens to flak. Shot down a Hurricane over Akyab.

Ted did have a success here today. He finally attacked my division (33 Division) that was sitting on the road 1 hex to the east of Cox’s Bazaar with 1x British and 5x Indian divisions. Sheer numbers won the day. I got pushed over the river. My division is down to 80% now. It’s still pretty powerful but needs help defending against those divisions should they decide to attack. It will take them a while to get over the river fortunately. I have a division and regiment moving into the area. I’ll decide who gets to reinforce them when the troops get closer to the front.

China

I did another deliberate assault at Changteh. My troops still have a lot of disruption squads, but I got 1:1 odds and reduced the fort from 1 to 0. Losses were 1127(6) Japanese to 1271(60) Chinese. I’ll attack again in a couple of days.

I have 32 Chinese units surrounded in a good sized area in south-central China. 24 of the units are stuck in a base that has no LI, so no supply for them. The other 8 units are scattered around. I’m slowly pushing them toward and eventually into the base with the large army. When that happens, I’ll keep them surrounded and let them wither away. I do not want to kill them through combat. My main army in the area pushed one unit today. The attack was 2 hexes SW of Nanchang. I pushed them in the direction I wanted and killed 927(112) Chinese to 273(2) Japanese losses.

I’m a bit bummed that the 33 Division was pushed off the road, because now Ted’s main army has supply along the road again. I am pleased that I stymied Ted for so long in Burma. I’m pretty sure (and so is Ted) that his army currently arrayed against my main army is not powerful enough to push them out.

Other Stuff

Nothing much to discuss.
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23 Dec 42

Sub War

Well, I lost another TK today, but fortunately it was only a small one. I had a new Std-C TK that left Davao to head to Babo to assist the small (1250 capacity) TK that was hauling oil from there. The Std-C TK was only a few hexes south of Davao when a US fleet sub put a torpedo into her. That’s all it took. Fortunately, she was empty. One hex over, another US fleet sub (it may have been the same one, I’m not sure) put a torpedo into a Kiso PB sinking her. No damage to either (or the same) sub.

5 Fleet

The first of 5, single ship (Ansyu-C) fast transport TFs will arrive at Adak tomorrow. They are all about a day apart and each has 1k supply. I’ll continue this until I’m comfortable with the supply level at Adak (10-20k).

4 Fleet

I’m spreading around FP units that specialize in either naval search or ASW (or both in some cases) to cover choke points where I often see Allied subs pass. Maybe they’ll get lucky.

As I get ground units, I’m placing garrisons, but at this point in the war, they’re pretty scarce. Most important bases have 1-2 Naval Guard units. The Marshalls are getting more stuff, to include brigade sized units, armor and artillery, along with the masses of engineers being used to build forts.

SE Fleet

All was quiet here today. The AS safely arrived at Munda and the Emily chutai is now flying out of there to spy on Noumea at normal range. I have about a dozen SNLF units (battalions and companies) sitting at Truk. I’m going to move some out to reinforce some of my bases. I may make those decisions today. I don’t want to wait until it’s too late.
SRA

Today I’m going to find 2-3 good ASW TFs and bring them to Davao. I want to make this area too dangerous for Ted’s subs. I have a couple of FP ASW groups here but they don’t seem to make a difference. I’m going to make one of my Val training groups an ASW group and station it here. Maybe a 250kg bomb or 2 will make a difference.

Burma

The only thing that happened here was 25 Tojos meeting 4 Hurricanes over Akyab. All of the Hurricanes were forced to abort with damage. I stood down my Helens to allow them to rest a bit.

China

Nothing.

Other Stuff

It looks like Ted may be getting ready for a push in Burma now that he opened his supply line. I’m not sure how long that will take. The monsoon doesn’t start until 15 May, so Ted has plenty of time to conduct an offensive. My current reinforcements that are heading to the front include the 8 Division, 77 Regiment and 4x artillery regiments. I’m going to use them to take Akyab. Then I’ll leave the regiment and one of the artillery regiments to garrison Akyab. That’ll free up 8 Division and 3x artillery regiments for other missions. I’ll most likely use them to reinforce the 33 Division. I may even pull out the 33 Division to rebuild it more quickly. We’ll see what Ted does with those 6 divisions. I suspect he’ll send at least half of them to reinforce his main army. I hope so. I’m thinking of buying out more infantry from Manchuoko. Instead of a division, maybe I’ll buy a couple of garrison units. If they’re capable enough, I can use them, teamed up with an artillery unit, to hold the line. Right now I have a division holding the line across the river from Katha, along with a regiment in the next hex over. I’d love to replace that division with a regiment/brigade and have a reserve.

The one thing that will give Ted headaches is that my 3 Air Division is holding it’s own against the RAF/RAAF/USAAF. I still have too many Oscar Ib sentai there unfortunately. My current composition of Oscar Ib, IIa and Tojo sentai is pretty much all I can keep in planes without increasing my aircraft production. That is something I do not want to do. I’m trying to maximize my HI pool. (I’ll have just under 1 million HI at the end of this year. I want 2.1 million by the end of 43.) If Ted does attack, I will be able to use my bomber force (~150 IJA 2E bombers) to work him over. My fighters in Burma are looking really good, with high experience. I am able to pull out elite pilots with surprising frequency to add to TRACOM. I keep 2 elite pilots per sentai. I also have a 45 plane Zero daitai stationed at Rangoon that provides CAP over that base. Their experience slowly increases too. I have confidence that I can defend Burma for a long time before he’s be able to make much headway. He’ll need to move significant air assets there in order to be successful there.

I have a question about aerial mining. I started getting them this month, at a rate of 1 a day. That’s not a lot, but it can be a headache. I tried to use them over Milne Bay, as an experiment. I was able to click on city attack, then aerial mining, but no farther. Anyone know anything about it? I never hear about Japanese players doing it.
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Rustysi, you're never overstepping here. One of the main reasons for this AAR is for JFBs to chime in with their ideas. I love hearing other JFBs thoughts. Right now I've got 3x Myrt NF factories, at 2, 1 & 0. It'll be awhile. Just to let you know, I'm also working on the Randy, which has 3x factories at 10, 7 & 4 currently. My plan is to increase the factories for these & other R&D models as some other models reach operational phase and I have too many R&D factories for that model. I'll just switch those extra R&D factories to other models. Yeah, I know, they have to start over, but that's ok.

By the way, I have completed turns up to 23 Dec, but haven't had the time to post them. I'm with my daughter through early afternoon while she completes her scuba certification. No internet though. Nothing to do but sit around and write up the turns. If Ted gets me the turn before I leave, I'll do the next turn.

Later!

Any idea how much supply you've spent on aircraft/engine expansion? I added mine up for my game against Bullwinkle and am curious how it stacks up against yours. We're at similar points in time, however I'm in Scen 2.

I want to say that my total aircraft/engine expansion expenditure (not counting factories that start damaged) is around 1.6-2M (that spreadsheet is at work [:D]). When I say the number, it seems high, however when I think about what I'm doing (30-size R&D factories, low production [only 75 A6M2 until the A6M5 came online!], etc.) it seems like I may actually be doing less than some other folks here.

Lokasenna, I'll have to count it up. I do know that all of my R&D factories are at 30. Some have become operational so I'll have to do some calculating.
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Thanks Mike, glad to see the Randy is already started. Seems the most potent to me. Every once in a while I get a good idea. It was I who gave the suggestion on CS/CVL conversion. I just wanted to add one thing. Someone suggested using Val's on 'em. I wouldn't. Don't think they get radar and they only carry one 250kg bomb. Kate 2's get radar and carry two bombs. I'd use them if I had them available.

Rustysi, I agree with your idea on using Kates. I'm using Vals because I need the Kate units for training. My Val losses have been very low, mainly because they're rarely used.
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Ki100-II: cl cannons are nice, better durability than Oscar IV, decent mid term fighter. Don't go hog wild on them I think too slow.

No one I know has gotten aerial mines to work as Japan.

Edit: Just saw a battle report with them working using Peggy.

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Ki100-II: cl cannons are nice, better durability than Oscar IV, decent mid term fighter. Don't go hog wild on them I think too slow.

No one I know has gotten aerial mines to work as Japan.

emailed you my thoughts on the Tony.

Ditto on the aerial mines .. if you get them to work, share. [;)]
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Thanks Tony. I got the email. Much appreciated. I'll continue to try and get the aerial mines to work, but no luck so far.

Below are some notes and comments on late war "stuff" goals. I counted the supply in Honshu and it's currently 1,075,708. Not high enough. I need to track this monthly to make sure it's rising.
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24 Dec 42

Sub War

Nothing new going on. The US & Dutch subs are still hanging around off Davao. The Dutch O20 sank a Kiso PB trying to DC her. The Japanese retaliation did nothing. At least they’re using torpedoes.

A sub has been sitting in the deep water hex 1 hex NW of Pescadores for a long time. I have an ASW TF sitting in the hex and an ASW FP unit in Pescadores vectored into just that hex. No luck so far. My Singapore convoys were going through that hex, but now I have them going through the Singapore hex and avoiding the sub.

Finally, there is 1 (or more) US sub south of Kobe. We attack each other daily with no luck from either side. This is only going to get worse very soon.

5 Fleet

The PB arrived at Adak and dumped half its supply today. It’ll finish offloading tomorrow and another will arrive. There are 4 more each about a day behind the other. I’ll continue this until supply is up. So far so good. One of the Naval Guard units is at full strength and the other is at 36% strength. Most of it was in Dutch Harbor when that base was taken by Ted. It’s slowly rebuilding. Hopefully, that will speed up with the extra supply on hand.

4 Fleet

Building forts.

SE Fleet

Interesting events today. A US convoy of DD Gwin and an xAKL appeared at Milne Bay today, presumably offloading supply. Two attacks, each of 12 Betties, flew in unescorted. They both were spotted by 7x P-40Ks and evaded them. Twenty-four torpedoes launched and all missed. One Betty went down to flak. Tomorrow, I’m sending an Oscar IIa sentai on a LRCAP mission over Milne Bay. I’d love to ambush the fighters and get another shot at the convoy with my Betties. I can’t believe they missed ships docked in port. Sheesh.

Five Helens hit Pt. Moresby in a night attack destroying a B-17 and P-40 on the ground and damaging a dozen more aircraft. Not bad for only 5 planes.

SRA

Nothing exciting to report.

Burma

I had grounded all my bombers to rest and get more pilots so no bombing happened today. I hoped to kill off some more Hurricanes over Akyab, but none flew. Too bad.

Tongoo’s airfield reached its goal of level 7.

China

My tank regiment hit the Chinese base force in its ninth attack today! And that darn base force is still alive. It’s now running north back toward where it started. Today’s losses were 18(5) Chinese. So far, there have been no Japanese losses. Amazing.

I hit Changteh again. I just can’t get >1:1 odds unfortunately. My infantry is worn out and needs some rest. Losses were 1549(8) Japanese to 1487(79) Chinese. They’re probably pretty worn out as well.

Other Stuff

Reinforcement: xAK Chinkai Maru – Std-D – converting to a TK. You may be curious why I’m building such a small TK. There are several places where I’m still using xAK(L)s to haul fuel (Palembang and Medan come to mind). I’d much rather use small TKs.

In another thread, I mentioned discussing late war commodity needs and goals. Well, I did some preliminary calculations. Here it is, in a nutshell:

My assumptions:

-The Home Islands will be cut off from SRA oil/fuel on 30 Jun 44. Every day beyond that is a bonus.

-Once the SRA SLOC is cut, I will still be able to move stuff between China/Manchuoko/Korea and the Home Islands.

-Once the SRA SLOC is cut, I will still be able to move stuff among the Home Islands.

Ok, my concern is with Honshu. The other islands have a bit of HI/LI, but it is minor and, with the exception of small amounts of fuel, self-sufficient.

If the SRA is cut off from the Home Islands on 30 Jun 44, I will need the following stockpiled in Honshu in order to keep the economy going:

Oil: 2,500,000
Fuel: 3,000,000
Supply: 1,800,000

Last night I was able to count up my fuel and Oil in Honshu (didn’t get to supply):

Oil: 2,187,890
Fuel: 2,159,951

It looks like I’m doing ok with oil and marginally ok with fuel. We’ll see what happens when the US torpedoes become good.

Here’s the short version of how I came up with these numbers.

Oil and fuel were relatively easy. I know what HI I have in the Honshu (5760) so I can calculate what is available in the Home Islands and C/M/K. Simple math shows what is needed.

Supply was more complex. Honshu will provide only 18,925 supply per day. That’s about 10k less than what I produce now. That’s a shortage of 300k supply a month. But, much of that supply is used outside the Home Islands. I’m going to keep track of what I ship out to see exactly what goes out, but I’m confident it’s >150k, possibly as much as 200k. So, 100k per month is where I got the 1,800,000 needed. More would be good. I really wish I had time to count the current supply I have in Honshu. I’ll do that today.

The next step is to figure out how much HI I need in the pool. Today, I have 974,900 in the pool. A rough estimate is 3.6 million by 30 Jun 44. If I continue at a pace of 100k a month I’ll make it. I need to dig further though. (Keep in mind that this is in addition to what is produced in Honshu. Also note that all the isolated places that have HI factories will continue to produce HI as long as they have the raw materials available.) Here are the preliminary numbers:

Late war monthly requirements:

Planes*: 2000 engines & airframes: 2000*(18+18) = 72,000 HI/month
Armaments: 500 factories on = 500*6*30 = 90,000 HI/month
Vehicles: 120 factories on = 120*6*30 = 21,600 HI/month

*2000 engines: 1E = 1 engine = 36 HI for 1 plane, 2E = 2 engines = 72 HI, 4E = 4 engines = 144 HI. I get the 2000 engine figure based on my planned plane builds late war. The count is actually ~1600 engines a month, so I’m adding 25%, just in case.

That’s 183,600 HI per month in just these needs. I haven’t gone farther yet. I’ll get there.

Now, I’ve been looking at different ways to stockpile oil, fuel and supply (and possibly resources). Why, you ask? It’s easier for me to track stuff if it stays in one place. I see 2 ways to do this:

-Create stockpile bases: Set a base to stock pile whatever you want to prevent from moving and ship stuff there. That way it’ll stay and not be used. An alternative to this is to create several of these bases. That way, you can release the stock from a base on a periodic basis as needed. Have each base have, say, 3 months of stocks. I’m not sure this is necessary, but it can prevent stuff like fuel and supply from “vanishing”. I don’t know. I need to think about it some more.

-The second alternative is to store the stuff in ships disbanded in bases out of the way. Same concept but it gets released into the system by putting the ship in a TF and unloading it. It’s a way to use extra shipping (if there is any at that point).

This is just some more of what goes through my head at work. Yeah, I’m a nut case.

Looking back at this, if I can do it, it appears that I can keep the economy going.

Lastly, I set up Java to be self-sufficient, kind of. I’m building up resources there so even if it is isolated, the HI can function there for a long time at 100% and then at some % <100% if totally isolated. That’s more HI for us even though it’s about as far from the Home Islands as you can get.
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Based on my supply numbers, I need to make sure the total supply is rising at least 50k per month. Gotta find someplace else to get excess supply. There's 2 million supply elsewhere around the world. I need to find it.
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Based on my supply numbers, I need to make sure the total supply is rising at least 50k per month. Gotta find someplace else to get excess supply. There's 2 million supply elsewhere around the world. I need to find it.

Tracker is amazing for this [:D].
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I couldn't get it to work before I mobilized, and I haven't tried since. [8|]
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I couldn't get it to work before I mobilized, and I haven't tried since. [8|]
Work with Floyd or Damian to get it working. Really helps. Customize your regions so you can really dissect production. I still export a lot of CSV's each turn to do trending that isn't in it, but it really saves a lot of time in terms of logging data.
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In another thread, I mentioned discussing late war commodity needs and goals. Well, I did some preliminary calculations. Here it is, in a nutshell:

My assumptions:

-The Home Islands will be cut off from SRA oil/fuel on 30 Jun 44. Every day beyond that is a bonus.

-Once the SRA SLOC is cut, I will still be able to move stuff between China/Manchuoko/Korea and the Home Islands.

-Once the SRA SLOC is cut, I will still be able to move stuff among the Home Islands.

Ok, my concern is with Honshu. The other islands have a bit of HI/LI, but it is minor and, with the exception of small amounts of fuel, self-sufficient.

If the SRA is cut off from the Home Islands on 30 Jun 44, I will need the following stockpiled in Honshu in order to keep the economy going:

Oil: 2,500,000
Fuel: 3,000,000
Supply: 1,800,000

Last night I was able to count up my fuel and Oil in Honshu (didn’t get to supply):

Oil: 2,187,890
Fuel: 2,159,951

It looks like I’m doing ok with oil and marginally ok with fuel. We’ll see what happens when the US torpedoes become good.

Here’s the short version of how I came up with these numbers.

Oil and fuel were relatively easy. I know what HI I have in the Honshu (5760) so I can calculate what is available in the Home Islands and C/M/K. Simple math shows what is needed.

Supply was more complex. Honshu will provide only 18,925 supply per day. That’s about 10k less than what I produce now. That’s a shortage of 300k supply a month. But, much of that supply is used outside the Home Islands. I’m going to keep track of what I ship out to see exactly what goes out, but I’m confident it’s >150k, possibly as much as 200k. So, 100k per month is where I got the 1,800,000 needed. More would be good. I really wish I had time to count the current supply I have in Honshu. I’ll do that today.

The next step is to figure out how much HI I need in the pool. Today, I have 974,900 in the pool. A rough estimate is 3.6 million by 30 Jun 44. If I continue at a pace of 100k a month I’ll make it. I need to dig further though. (Keep in mind that this is in addition to what is produced in Honshu. Also note that all the isolated places that have HI factories will continue to produce HI as long as they have the raw materials available.) Here are the preliminary numbers:

Late war monthly requirements:

Planes*: 2000 engines & airframes: 2000*(18+18) = 72,000 HI/month
Armaments: 500 factories on = 500*6*30 = 90,000 HI/month
Vehicles: 120 factories on = 120*6*30 = 21,600 HI/month

*2000 engines: 1E = 1 engine = 36 HI for 1 plane, 2E = 2 engines = 72 HI, 4E = 4 engines = 144 HI. I get the 2000 engine figure based on my planned plane builds late war. The count is actually ~1600 engines a month, so I’m adding 25%, just in case.

That’s 183,600 HI per month in just these needs. I haven’t gone farther yet. I’ll get there.
Not surprising, our numbers are almost identical. Of course, we do them the same way so kinda makes sense.

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I use June 1, 44 as my cut-off for planning, so I need a bit more of everything. I target 4M HI, 3M oil, 3M fuel, 500K ARM, 50K VEH. I also use 2K AC equivalents as my monthly run number from 6/1/44 to end game.

Just all rough goals. For each game, I map out more precise goals predicated upon my conquest targets. These rough goals are based upon historic conquests.

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Lastly, I set up Java to be self-sufficient, kind of. I’m building up resources there so even if it is isolated, the HI can function there for a long time at 100% and then at some % <100% if totally isolated. That’s more HI for us even though it’s about as far from the Home Islands as you can get.
I'm not a big fan of Java. It's just too far away. If I make it really strong, the allies can just bypass it. The only way to make them pay is to be able to attack their supply lines, but Java isn't on their supply route. Worse, the IJ doesn't really have effective mid/late war offensive aircraft ... they are all short legged defensive AC, particularly the fighters. So, I could hold Java if wanted to invest enough in it, but it won't save the HI for me. The B29's night bombing will turn all the HI into dust in a month at most. Once that's done, as far as the allies are concerned, Java is negated all of the troops there are self-supporting POW's who can no longer influence the war. The only way to stop, or slow, that outcome is to invest precious AA and NF assets that are needed in the HI. I just never can do that. So, like everywhere else, I take Java, repair oil centers, but invest nothing else. I save my supply for later in the game ...

Just my thoughts ...
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Hi guys, just an update. My wife and I had planned a second honeymoon last October to celebrate our 30th anniversary, but my mobilization sort of got in the way. Last Friday, we left for that vacation. We're currently in Orlando, and today we're resting a bit after walking our butts off the past 4 days at Disney World. We're here the rest of the week, then off to Panama City Beach for another week before a half week in Georgia then home. So, I haven't been on here, but will be on here and there for the next couple weeks. Ted had sent me a turn but I told him he could resend it later if he wanted to spend the time to go over everything thoroughly. He took the offer and hasn't sent it yet. I'm going to start an AI game as the Allies, just to see how the other half lives. Should be interesting. I won't track anything, just play the game to get the other perspective. We'll see how that works out. Should be a laugh.

Anyway, Pax, I'll probably contact FLoyd or Damian to try and get tracker going. I used it in the past (before I had this computer) and got a lot of useful info from it, so I'll give it another shot.

I'm really curious as to how you get your HI pool to 4M by 1 Jun 44 while getting your armaments to 500k and vehicles to 50k. Also, I don't see myself to ever see 3M oil. I can't seem to get >100k HI per month. Most of my excess HI comes from shutting off 500 of my 650 armament factories. I'm really curious to see what you do.

Concerning Java, I never did what I'm doing at Java before. I look at it a bit differently. Ted is going to bomb HI with his B-29s. That's a fact. If he spends a month destroying the HI in Java, that's 1 less month bombing Japan. The down side is the amount of supply spent to build up the HI in Java. I'll check to see how much I spent. That's the cost for extra HI factories and extra HI produced. That's something to consider.
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Hi guys, just an update. My wife and I had planned a second honeymoon last October to celebrate our 30th anniversary, but my mobilization sort of got in the way. Last Friday, we left for that vacation. We're currently in Orlando, and today we're resting a bit after walking our butts off the past 4 days at Disney World. We're here the rest of the week, then off to Panama City Beach for another week before a half week in Georgia then home. So, I haven't been on here, but will be on here and there for the next couple weeks. Ted had sent me a turn but I told him he could resend it later if he wanted to spend the time to go over everything thoroughly. He took the offer and hasn't sent it yet. I'm going to start an AI game as the Allies, just to see how the other half lives. Should be interesting. I won't track anything, just play the game to get the other perspective. We'll see how that works out. Should be a laugh.

Anyway, Pax, I'll probably contact FLoyd or Damian to try and get tracker going. I used it in the past (before I had this computer) and got a lot of useful info from it, so I'll give it another shot.

I'm really curious as to how you get your HI pool to 4M by 1 Jun 44 while getting your armaments to 500k and vehicles to 50k. Also, I don't see myself to ever see 3M oil. I can't seem to get >100k HI per month. Most of my excess HI comes from shutting off 500 of my 650 armament factories. I'm really curious to see what you do.

Concerning Java, I never did what I'm doing at Java before. I look at it a bit differently. Ted is going to bomb HI with his B-29s. That's a fact. If he spends a month destroying the HI in Java, that's 1 less month bombing Japan. The down side is the amount of supply spent to build up the HI in Java. I'll check to see how much I spent. That's the cost for extra HI factories and extra HI produced. That's something to consider.

Congrats, and enjoy! Sounds like a fun trip.

RE: the bolded part - I'm also curious. My extra HI comes mainly from shutting off the x6 factories for ARM and VEH pts. Also from turning off shipyards later, and aircraft/engine factory usage remains roughly constant or perhaps even slightly upward-trending.
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Congratulations on your 30th anniversary.

Will you move additional AA units to Java also?


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