ORIGINAL: warspite1
After 2 Yes votes in a row, Midlothian votes strongly No
Overall its so close Yes 49 % - No 51%
I went out for a drive about 1:30am my time, listening to the BBC World Service when they announced a 55%-45% in favor of staying.
Moderator: maddog986
ORIGINAL: warspite1
After 2 Yes votes in a row, Midlothian votes strongly No
Overall its so close Yes 49 % - No 51%
warspite1ORIGINAL: wodin
Just wish they'd shut up about it now. Was already driving me nuts as everyday the news banged on and on and on about it.
ORIGINAL: warspite1
There's one of two ways this can go now, the UK parliamentary system gets serious reform, or the UK will die.
The people of Scotland have laid down the challenge - its up to ALL of us in these islands to seize the opportunity.
warspite1ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Salmond stepping down, it seems. Not a big surprise from this casual observer...
You wrote "People with yes badges or 'foreign' accents are getting attacked". I say again, why is that right when you repeat it and wrong when I said something about the intimidation stories by the Yes camp doing the rounds?
In one incident, Union flag-waving lout Mark McGill, of Ballieston, Glasgow, is seen ripping a saltire from the hands of a young woman after she was knocked to the ground.
In other footage, a pony-tailed woman in a red fleece can be seen hurling a bottle as police, including mounted officers, corralled the Union flag mob.
In other images the yobs set a Saltire alight while others are seen making Nazi-style salutes. Fighting broke out in the square and at the entrance of Queen Street station as rail passengers and visitors to the city ran for cover.
He added: “They were throwing flares and smoke bombs over the top of police and sometimes at police. Whenever a Yes supporter got anywhere near them they just got in their face.”
ORIGINAL: warspite1
You also said "this is the face of Unionism in Central Glasgow tonight". But I have no doubt if the decision had gone the other way, we would have tweets of "the face of Nationalists in Central Glasgow tonight" Saltires flying ten to the dozen.
Scotland is no different from any other country on God's sweet earth, there are tolerant and intolerant people on all sides. You have chosen to show a picture of Union Jacks flying, riot police, smoke. Fine. There are pictures I could show but there is no way I am de-railing this thread Matrix have been so good to allow.
ORIGINAL: Dixie
I've got mixed feelings to be honest, apart from the amusement of listening to Salmond promise stuff he couldn't deliver on I feel we are better off together. Like any political campaign there's been a lot of mud slinging and unsustainable promises made by both sides. I wonder what the reaction would've been from Mr Salmond though, if only the English were allowed to vote on something that would have massive consequences for the fate of the United Kingdom? Letting 4 million people from a population of 60 million decide things is not ideal. Greater regional control is probably the way forward, for all of the UK including England. Which would mean that unless something affects the whole of the UK (e.g. foreign policy) then only the MPs for that nation get to vote. Scottish MPs can't vote on English matters, English ones can't vote on Scottish ones (although I'm pretty sure the second one already is the case).
Despite feeling a bit ambivalent about the whole thing I will say that being British does not mean you can't also be Scottish or English or Welsh or Northern Irish. Or Cornish for that matter. We probably are better off together, but Scotland will probably be better off than us (for now at least).
If you love something set it free... [;)]