Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
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Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
I have had this game for some years and it has worked so far. When I tried to install it on a new machine with Windows 8.1 64 bit, here is what happened:
The original version 1.1 installed and runs, but the terrain is blank. Update to 1.20 does not change anything (I have tried everything else - running the application as administrator, turning off antivirus and firewall and changing some settings). Other than blank terrain, everything else runs.
The ogre says ''Cannot find grass.dds, will be left blank.'' This did not cause any trouble at all on my old machine but the new one cannot handle it. The game reinstalls without errors but reinstall does not change anything.
The problem may be the ''RGB issue for Windows 8.1'' so I am looking forward to an interesting weekend reinstalling my graphics drivers.
ogre is not responsible for the problem, it gave the same error message on my old machine but the game displays correctly even in v.1.11.
btw the same RGB issue also affects Geamany at War. The terrain looks brown, creating a ''Fascists on the Mars effect''. Otherwise the game runs.
The original version 1.1 installed and runs, but the terrain is blank. Update to 1.20 does not change anything (I have tried everything else - running the application as administrator, turning off antivirus and firewall and changing some settings). Other than blank terrain, everything else runs.
The ogre says ''Cannot find grass.dds, will be left blank.'' This did not cause any trouble at all on my old machine but the new one cannot handle it. The game reinstalls without errors but reinstall does not change anything.
The problem may be the ''RGB issue for Windows 8.1'' so I am looking forward to an interesting weekend reinstalling my graphics drivers.
ogre is not responsible for the problem, it gave the same error message on my old machine but the game displays correctly even in v.1.11.
btw the same RGB issue also affects Geamany at War. The terrain looks brown, creating a ''Fascists on the Mars effect''. Otherwise the game runs.
The art of war is simple and esay to understand but fighting a war is hard.
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello,
sorry for the late reply, i only look in here from time to time, not on a regular bases. Could you resolve the problem by adjusting the drivers or does it persist ?
Regards,
sorry for the late reply, i only look in here from time to time, not on a regular bases. Could you resolve the problem by adjusting the drivers or does it persist ?
Regards,
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hi,
The battle with the graphic drivers has been postponed since I wanted to install the rest of the games first. Now when everything else works, the battle with RGB will start.
The battle with the graphic drivers has been postponed since I wanted to install the rest of the games first. Now when everything else works, the battle with RGB will start.
The art of war is simple and esay to understand but fighting a war is hard.
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello,
ok, its seems this is not an exclusive issue with OB but rather a sytem wide problem then ?
Regards,
ORIGINAL: Marechal
Hi,
The battle with the graphic drivers has been postponed since I wanted to install the rest of the games first. Now when everything else works, the battle with RGB will start.
ok, its seems this is not an exclusive issue with OB but rather a sytem wide problem then ?
Regards,
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
It is an issue with this game and also Germany at War. Nothing changed after reinstalling the graphic drivers.
I will keep those two games on my other computer that uses Windows 7.
Other games run on Windows 8.1.
Let me know if you have a solution, otherwise we can wait for the next Win 8 service pack.
I will keep those two games on my other computer that uses Windows 7.
Other games run on Windows 8.1.
Let me know if you have a solution, otherwise we can wait for the next Win 8 service pack.
The art of war is simple and esay to understand but fighting a war is hard.
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello Marechal,
OB does not deliver detailed information, but as you own Germany at War, too : could you send us a screenshot that shows the problem and the corresponding logs you can find at: C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Local\Germany at War ?
Thanks in advance & Regards,
OB does not deliver detailed information, but as you own Germany at War, too : could you send us a screenshot that shows the problem and the corresponding logs you can find at: C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Local\Germany at War ?
Thanks in advance & Regards,
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hi,
I have same problem, terrain is black.
I'm on Windows 8.1 with latest NVidia driver.
Tested with Intel graphics HD doesn't work too.
Solution for this black groung?
Regards.
I have same problem, terrain is black.
I'm on Windows 8.1 with latest NVidia driver.
Tested with Intel graphics HD doesn't work too.
Solution for this black groung?
Regards.
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello gilestiel,
we have tested the game with Windows 8.0 and the latest NVidia driver as well as with Windows 7 and an ATI gfx card. Both times the game runs without a problem.
There is a chance though that this error is caused by the fact that NVidia does not support 8-Bit textures with their latest drivers anymore.
In time we will provide a patch for this, but currently we are busy with other projects so it will probably take some time.
As we can not reproduce this on our machines, it is hard to find the cause.
Did you try compatiblity modes already ?
Regards,
we have tested the game with Windows 8.0 and the latest NVidia driver as well as with Windows 7 and an ATI gfx card. Both times the game runs without a problem.
There is a chance though that this error is caused by the fact that NVidia does not support 8-Bit textures with their latest drivers anymore.
In time we will provide a patch for this, but currently we are busy with other projects so it will probably take some time.
As we can not reproduce this on our machines, it is hard to find the cause.
Did you try compatiblity modes already ?
Regards,
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hi Ronald,
I have tried compatibility option from Windows XP to Windows 7 but doesn't work.
Like mentioned in my previous message, i have also installed and tested on my Surface Pro 2 that have a Intel Graphics
chipset HD4400 and didn't work too.
Difference , i'm on Windows 8.1 ( both on my desktop and Surface ).
Regards.
I have tried compatibility option from Windows XP to Windows 7 but doesn't work.
Like mentioned in my previous message, i have also installed and tested on my Surface Pro 2 that have a Intel Graphics
chipset HD4400 and didn't work too.
Difference , i'm on Windows 8.1 ( both on my desktop and Surface ).
Regards.
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello gilestiel,
could you provide a screenshot ? Maybe it indicates something new.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ronald
could you provide a screenshot ? Maybe it indicates something new.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ronald
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello,
I have this message and can't post image :
"You are not allowed to post links for 7 days from the date of your tenth post."
So i'll try to send you by email or add 3w missing in the begining of this line below
gilestiel.eu/temp/OBSFR.jpg
I have this message and can't post image :
"You are not allowed to post links for 7 days from the date of your tenth post."
So i'll try to send you by email or add 3w missing in the begining of this line below
gilestiel.eu/temp/OBSFR.jpg
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello gliestil,
thanks a lot for the screenshot, yesterday i got my hands on a 8.1 machine and it showed the same display of the terrain.
Its most likely that this is due the new texture policy (we had a simular phenomena with Germany at War) its just a bit odd that it appears on 8.1 and not with 8.0.
Anyway we will fix this, but it might take a while as other projects have priority right now.
Regards,
thanks a lot for the screenshot, yesterday i got my hands on a 8.1 machine and it showed the same display of the terrain.
Its most likely that this is due the new texture policy (we had a simular phenomena with Germany at War) its just a bit odd that it appears on 8.1 and not with 8.0.
Anyway we will fix this, but it might take a while as other projects have priority right now.
Regards,
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello Ronald,
Just to keep you informed, on both my tablet and desktop, i have no problems of texture with Germany At War. It work fine.
Regards.
Just to keep you informed, on both my tablet and desktop, i have no problems of texture with Germany At War. It work fine.
Regards.
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello Gilestiel,
thats good to know, the GaW engine should work fine as its up to date. OB is on the market for almost four years now, so there is a chance for glitches if new technologies are introduced.
Regards,
ORIGINAL: gilestiel
Hello Ronald,
Just to keep you informed, on both my tablet and desktop, i have no problems of texture with Germany At War. It work fine.
Regards.
thats good to know, the GaW engine should work fine as its up to date. OB is on the market for almost four years now, so there is a chance for glitches if new technologies are introduced.
Regards,
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello,
Just an update, I'm on Windows 7 now, and I have same problem. So I think is not really version of windows.
Regards.
Just an update, I'm on Windows 7 now, and I have same problem. So I think is not really version of windows.
Regards.
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello gilestiel,
but you still use a Nvidia card ?
Regards,
ORIGINAL: gilestiel
Hello,
Just an update, I'm on Windows 7 now, and I have same problem. So I think is not really version of windows.
Regards.
but you still use a Nvidia card ?
Regards,
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello,
Yes, this is NVidia card.
To resume, I have the problem on my all computers with systems below :
One with Intel chipset graphics card 4400 on windows 8.1
And other with Nvidia Card GTX 780, on windows 7/8/8.1
Regards.
Yes, this is NVidia card.
To resume, I have the problem on my all computers with systems below :
One with Intel chipset graphics card 4400 on windows 8.1
And other with Nvidia Card GTX 780, on windows 7/8/8.1
Regards.
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello gilestiel,
thanks for the details, all points at the changes in the driver mentioned above.
Regards,
ORIGINAL: gilestiel
Hello,
Yes, this is NVidia card.
To resume, I have the problem on my all computers with systems below :
One with Intel chipset graphics card 4400 on windows 8.1
And other with Nvidia Card GTX 780, on windows 7/8/8.1
Regards.
thanks for the details, all points at the changes in the driver mentioned above.
Regards,
RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Same for me with Win7 and an ATI 7800 series card. Any chance of a fix?
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RE: Windows 8.1 and blank terrain
Hello Teignnews,
thanks for your report, didn't have this with ATIs so far.
As mentioned above there will be a fix if it is linked to the smae error, but it will take some time as we work on new stuff so you sadly have to be patient for a while.
Regards,
ORIGINAL: Teignnews
Same for me with Win7 and an ATI 7800 series card. Any chance of a fix?
thanks for your report, didn't have this with ATIs so far.
As mentioned above there will be a fix if it is linked to the smae error, but it will take some time as we work on new stuff so you sadly have to be patient for a while.
Regards,