New scenario Falkland war for testing

[riekelt]

23/04/1982



The falkland war is running. You are commander of the Hermes Taskforce a landing Taskforce and some Victor tanker some Nimrod patrol planes and Vulcan bombers.

Try to reach the landing zone for the mariners whit your landing Force. The landing zone is the marker on the map.

Try to destroy all enemy forces and airbases also on the mainland of argentina.

The big planes like the Nimrod and Vulcan are based on a small island in the South Atlantic. The name of the island is Ascension Island.

I don´t notting about some subs of the enemy.

Here is a table for losses and expenditures. For example if lose UK 1 fighter you lose 10 points and if the UK shot down a Argentine fighter you get 5 points.

Object UK Argentina
Fighters -10 5
Bombers -20 5
Tankerplane -10 ----
MPA -10 ----
Transport and ASW heli -10 5
Surface ships -30 20
Aircraftcarrier -80 45
Subs -60 40
Drop SAS 10 ----
Reach landingzone mariners 60 ----
Destroy airbase 55 ----
Destroy infantery -15 5

[pandoraefretum]

Thanks for this. I am trying it out.
By the way, you spell Invincible wrong (Invicible Task Force)

[riekelt]

Thanks for the comment pandoraefretum. I forgot to wear my glasses. I am sorry for the wrong spelling.

[pandoraefretum]

No apology needed riekelt.
I always felt we needed more Falkland scenarios; so thanks for your work so far.

[ojms]

Hi,

1. You have the wrong version of the FRS.1 Sea Harrier, this should be the 1982 version with the AIM-9L
2. I think there should be more Victor tankers and less Vulcans at Ascension, also some Vulcans were equipped with Shrike for SEAD missions.
3. I think there are too many Super Etendard's with Exocet's equipped, I think there were only 5 Exocet's in Argentina in total.
4. Argentina also had KC-130 for AAR, Boeing 707 and SP-2 Neptune for recon.
5. I would suggest moving one Type 22 from the ARG in to the Hermes task force and one type 42 from the Hermes group in to the ARG.
6. Single unit airfields on the mainland would be pretty hard to beat, is this something you would consider changing? You could look at the predefined airfields in import/export.
7. The Belgrano group and presumably HMS conqueror were south of the islands.
8. There are duplicate names of all of the Sea Harriers (ie two Sea Harrier #1).


More info on the air groups/naval units is here:

http ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_air_forces_in_the_Falklands_War#Argentine_Air_Force
http ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_air_services_in_the_Falklands_War

All this really depends on how accurate you want this to be though really.

Cheers!

[riekelt]

Hi ojms

Thanks man for this info. I will working on it. I wan't also the build an scenario about a new falkland war in 2020. I will build it whit the new Queen Elizabeth carrier. Maybe dow you have some suggestions? But the current airforce is to weak for it i think so?

[.Sirius]

Hi riekelt, I'll take a look at the scenario tonight, I was in the Falklands War in 1982 serving on HMS Plymouth so this is my ball game so to speak

ORIGINAL: riekelt

23/04/1982



The falkland war is running. You are commander of the Hermes Taskforce a landing Taskforce and some Victor tanker some Nimrod patrol planes and Vulcan bombers.

Try to reach the landing zone for the mariners whit your landing Force. The landing zone is the marker on the map.

Try to destroy all enemy forces and airbases also on the mainland of argentina.

The big planes like the Nimrod and Vulcan are based on a small island in the South Atlantic. The name of the island is Ascension Island.

I don´t notting about some subs of the enemy.

Here is a table for losses and expenditures. For example if lose UK 1 fighter you lose 10 points and if the UK shot down a Argentine fighter you get 5 points.

Object UK Argentina
Fighters -10 5
Bombers -20 5
Tankerplane -10 ----
MPA -10 ----
Transport and ASW heli -10 5
Surface ships -30 20
Aircraftcarrier -80 45
Subs -60 40
Drop SAS 10 ----
Reach landingzone mariners 60 ----
Destroy airbase 55 ----
Destroy infantery -15 5

[riekelt]

Hi There.

I listen to all the comments. Here is a new updated scenario. I put also some commercial liners inside. Attention if you shot down a neutral plane or ship you lose 50 points.

[pandoraefretum]

My score is stuck on -5 no matter how many aircraft are shot down on both sides
Also, why would the Pucara fly so far north into the Sea ?
Keep working on it !! Would be great !!

[riekelt]

Hi pandoraefretum,

I fixed the problems whit the points. Now you can be the winner[;)] Here is an new file.

[pandoraefretum]

Thank you sir!

[baboeska]

Feedback on Falkland's war scenario

Wow.
Well, the Vulcan's and Victor's turned out to be a liability, they didn't refuel properly and they sunk.
Also lost a couple of harrier's to out of fuel, not sure why...
The Belgrano ended up way in the north, that's ok, she sunk pretty quickly.
The Harrier's with the loadout of Laser guided bomb's didn't seem realistic, they didn't bring buccaneer's or other planes

iwht a guidance platform, please change the default load out to 1000lb dumb bombs.
Also very hard case to use British exocet's to sink Argentinian ships, check the accuracy of the british loadout?
Also, add Goose green to the scenario, that happens on the Eastern falklands island.

Also, resupply boats? My frigates ran out of fuel.. Maybe start the naval force closer, and have predesignated

missions/waypoints for the victors/vulcans, otherwise I'm guessing they will just crash... Or ditch the victor/vulcans...

Also maybe have an ending point for when there are no more argentinian units within 200 miles of the falklands...

Have about 23 hours to go, here are my total expenditures etc;
Seems I killed more than the Argentinian af had - super etenard's, seaking's, pucara's, neptune's etc (wikipedia > Argentine_air_forces_in_the_Falklands_War


SIDE: UK
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LOSSES:
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1x 7.62mm MG
10x Harrier Gr.3
1x S 46 Churchill
24x Sea Harrier FRS.1
4x Sea King HAS.5
3x Victor K.2
2x Vulcan B.2


EXPENDITURES:
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155x 30mm ADEN Mk4 x 2 Burst [50 rnds]
342x 40mm/70 Mk9 Single Bofors Burst [4 rnds]
240x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds]
2x AIM-9G Sidewinder
126x AIM-9L Sidewinder
5x Corvus Chaff [Distraction]
3x Corvus Chaff [Seduction]
45x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
19x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
18x High Explosives [C-4]
4x Mk13 1000lb GPB
8x Mk24 Tigerfish Mod 1
8x Mk8 Straight-Runner
12x MM.38 Exocet Blk I
94x Sea Dart Mod 0
9x Sea Wolf Blk 1
114x SNEB 68mm Rocket
3x SSQ-947 Julie Active Range-Only [AN/SSQ-47]



SIDE: Argentine
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LOSSES:
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1x A/C Weather Shelter (1x Medium Aircraft)
12x A-4P Skyhawk [A-4B Caza]
17x A-4Q Skyhawk [A-4B]
2x Boeing 707-387C
1x C 4 General Belgrano [Brooklyn Class]
2x D 1 Hercules [Type 42]
2x D 25 Segui [Sumner Class]
13x Dagger A [Nesher]
30x IA-58A Pucara
10x MB.339A
19x Mirage IIIEA
9x P-2H (P2V-7) Neptune
1x Radar (AN/TPS-43F)
1x S 21 Santa Fe [Balao Class]
6x S-2E Tracker
6x SH-3D Sea King
5x Super Etendard
5x T-34C-1 Turbo Mentor
1x V2 Veinticinco de Mayo [Colossus]


EXPENDITURES:
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4x 114mm/55 Mk8 HE(MP) HE
17x 20mm Mk12 x 2 [50 rnds]
32x 30mm DEFA 552 x 2 Burst [50 rnds]
3x A.244
10x AIM-9B Sidewinder
7x Corvus Chaff [Distraction]
1x Corvus Chaff [Seduction]
4x Generic Acoustic Decoy
4x Mk81 250lb LDGP
4x MM.38 Exocet Blk I
60x R.530
4x R.550 Magic 1
10x Roland 2
32x Sea Dart Mod 0
23x Shafrir 2



SIDE: Layer
===========================================================

LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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SIDE: Neutral
===========================================================

LOSSES:
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1x Boeing 747-100
1x Commercial Fishing Boat [23m]


EXPENDITURES:
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[riekelt]

I think there are some tankers airborne and your harriers and the doctrine's refeul stay yes. Maybe that's the reason why the sink. I played the scenario and i needed 6 victors to reach the falklands whit the vulcans. So it is possible but it's very intensive. But you are right i will put the taskforce closer to the Falklands. I put an new file whit the change of the taskforce.

[Dimitris]

Is this ready for release?