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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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John, Should it be BTS 1.2.2 As you already had 1.2.1 - please excuse me if I am wrong

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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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@John,

Since I was not going to repeat the Japanese day 1 setup (for the 4th time), I am continuing with my recently started (day 2 in the works) PBEM game. One thing I have noticed is that getting a VERY good result in Pearl Harbor is not an easy task. I did, but at the expense of other things. Doable, but not easy... GOOD!

One minor detail: the reduced load for the B5N2-C is 2x 250 Kg bombs... I am almost certain that is not what you want :)

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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Hey Gentlemen!

Kitakami: GLAD you got your game rolling. Sorry about the little updates but I am just simply cleaning up as I find the issues. LUCKILY nothing has been horrifically serious. The PH Raid is certainly a grab bag. Criptop had excellent results but I've heard others have not. As to the recon Kate----it was supposed to carry just a 100Kg bomb. Pretty sure the problem you mention is due to copy/paste issues. Will fix. You are starting a BTS Scenario--RIGHT? or Is it RA?

Cavalry: Correct and will fix.
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Well...this is what I get for NOT doing aircraft before. I did not realize that the 'reduced load' was actually on the 11-20 list. DUH! Fixed. I shifted the Recon Kate to 2 100 KG Bombs Normal/1 100 KG Bomb reduced.
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Just added Juan's Allied Aircraft Purchase Guide to the web site so Allied players can gain a clear understanding as to how this new system works.
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Hey Gentlemen!

Kitakami: GLAD you got your game rolling. Sorry about the little updates but I am just simply cleaning up as I find the issues. LUCKILY nothing has been horrifically serious. The PH Raid is certainly a grab bag. Criptop had excellent results but I've heard others have not. As to the recon Kate----it was supposed to carry just a 100Kg bomb. Pretty sure the problem you mention is due to copy/paste issues. Will fix. You are starting a BTS Scenario--RIGHT? or Is it RA?
Cavalry: Correct and will fix.

I cannot complain. This is what was reported (and YES, it is BtS):

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 14, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Idaho, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hull, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 14, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
AVP Swan, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Farragut, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 3
DM Sicard, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Castor, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Montgomery, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2
DM Preble, Bomb hits 1
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
DD MacDonough, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AM Tern, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Patterson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Thornton, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AM Grebe, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AG Antares, Bomb hits 1
DD Allen, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Phelps, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DMS Wasmuth, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Narwhal, Bomb hits 1
DD Dewey, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Cassin, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PT-30, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AM Turkey, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Pelias, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Aylwin, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Downes, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Cachalot, Bomb hits 1
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1
DM Ramsay, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

I did throw everything against it, though, including the kitchen sink. If the report is correct, I sank 2x BB, 1x CA, 5x DD, 1x AVD, 1x DM, 1x AM, 1x PT.
I did hit the other BBs with a good number of torpedoes so, if there is not enough flood damage and fires to sink one or two more, at the very least they will spend ages in dry dock.

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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Holy CRAP! Nice work. Did you hit it with CarDiv1 and 5: Akagi, Amagi, Ryukaku, Shokaku, Zuikaku, and a CAV?
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Holy CRAP! Nice work. Did you hit it with CarDiv1 and 5: Akagi, Amagi, Ryukaku, Shokaku, Zuikaku, and a CAV?

Inbox. Such info is not to be discussed in public fora ;)
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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John, Now that my anti virus and internet are up again, I have downloaded and installed v2.1 and all art. Everything looks good. I ran 2 quick tests out for about 2 weeks game time. runs smooth. JuanG and I are going to start a PBEM hopefully tonight or tomarrow....GP

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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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General! That is good news.

You guys playing RA or BTS?

Don't forget that we also need G.6 Ship Art.

Did you see Red Lancer's Buffaloes he did? Let me find them for a another posting.
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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John 3rd,

I've played into the first week of January in BTs solo. The AI is following a pretty much historical course.

Not sure if anyone else has pointed this out as I haven't read the entire thread, but there seems to be a glitch in the configuration of the CVL Kings Mountain.

It is equipped with a small (6 planes) torpedo squadron, but the ship has no torpedo capacity. Neither do any of the other ahistorical CVLs, but none of those come equipped with a torpedo squadron like KM.

Can we update ongoing games as you find and correct things and upload new versions?
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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John, I concur with Hans. Also, Hans, If you are playing as the Allies you will be OK with the AI. Don't know at this point how far into the game you can get with the AI without the AI breaking....GP
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Indian Brigades - I just found out that the 44 Indian Bde (ID 6444) and 45 Indian Bde (ID 6453) need to have their "TOE ID" corrected. Right now they go to a blank slot. [:(] They should BOTH be 2846 which is the 41 Indian Bde TO&E.

Please correct, Sir John!

EDIT - Just saw 46 Indian Bde (ID 6452) needs to be corrected too.
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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John 3rd,

I've played into the first week of January in BTs solo. The AI is following a pretty much historical course.

Not sure if anyone else has pointed this out as I haven't read the entire thread, but there seems to be a glitch in the configuration of the CVL Kings Mountain.

It is equipped with a small (6 planes) torpedo squadron, but the ship has no torpedo capacity. Neither do any of the other ahistorical CVLs, but none of those come equipped with a torpedo squadron like KM.

Can we update ongoing games as you find and correct things and upload new versions?

I took at look at this class - it has the same problem as on the earlier ones you fixed (G.6 I believe?), the device slots 1-10 and 11-20 are transposed.

Also, I noticed that for the CL Mogami the C 3x15.5cm turret is added to the end of the weapon list. If you don't mind John I can easily relocate it to between the F and R turrets, which is aesthetically nicer and easier to read off ammo for.
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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JuanG,

I'm glad you answered. I believe you are the one who created the off-board air bases along the eastern board edge.

As I understand it they are for buying out extra squadrons for the Pacific with PPs.

Not that I think I will ever need them against the AI, but I would like to learn how they work.

I can mouse over them and get an info fly-out, but cannot see any way to access them.

Can you point me to where the discussion is on how they work?
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Hans, this is where it all started, I don't think it changed much.

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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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As mentioned in the Aircraft Purchases guide;
These bases cannot be accessed by clicking on them and instead the steps described below must be used to access them and their air groups.

Air Groups corresponding to the bases nationality will arrive throughout the war. To access the bases, use the ‘Bases’ list at the top of the game interface (the white star on a green background) to open a list of bases in the game. The ‘purchase’ bases have their names enclosed by round brackets, making them easy to find at the top of the bases list.

So, hit this button to show the 'Bases' list;
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Then pick out the base for the nationality you want;
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The airgroups can be found on the aircraft panel for the base, which you can access by hitting the little airfield icon on the base info page.

Note that the first purchasable airgroups arrive in mid December 1941.
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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JuanG,

I'm glad you answered. I believe you are the one who created the off-board air bases along the eastern board edge.

As I understand it they are for buying out extra squadrons for the Pacific with PPs.

Not that I think I will ever need them against the AI, but I would like to learn how they work.

I can mouse over them and get an info fly-out, but cannot see any way to access them.

Can you point me to where the discussion is on how they work?

Hey Juan, I attached the pdf file for your Airframe purchase system....GP
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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Hi Guys. Michael told me about the Indian Brigades and that there was some good chatter going on in the Thread. It is always good to be the King. I decided to come home for a few minutes and read.

Thanks for catching that stuff guys. Really torques me off to do such a ROOKIE mistake as flipping the 1-10 and 11-20 fields around. DUMB!

Juan: I am now sending you the most current set of files for you to correct. Thanks for offering and since I won't be home for another eight hours I figure 'why not.' Tackle the stuff mentioned above and send the files back with your change list. I shall Post on the Web Site ASAP.

Thanks everyone!
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RE: Between the Storms 1.2

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I am assuming that this issue is only in BTS. Lets fix that then I will take a look at the Treaty Mod.
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