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Aircobra or Warhawk

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Hi,

In my current game I have ample stocks of both aircobras and warhawks but cannot really decide which aircraft I prefer. Which aircraft do you find gives better performance, preference?
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RE: Aircobra or Warhawk

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Depends on whether you play with the modified stats or stock, but as a rule of thumb I would rate P40B/P39D about equal, while the P40E suffers a bit from the increased weight added by guns and armor.

In general though I suggest you equally spread the distribution throughout all types, to remove the pressure from the pools. The replacement rate is not high enough to focus on a specific type in combat situations, and the performance difference is marginal.
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Can´t really point to any specifics but I prefer the P39. Playing with Symons latest AC files it feels like they are doing better against Stratosweeping Zeroes.
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The 37 MM gun can do some damage on merchant ships.....
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Can´t really point to any specifics but I prefer the P39. Playing with Symons latest AC files it feels like they are doing better against Stratosweeping Zeroes.

I really think it's the cannons.
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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Can´t really point to any specifics but I prefer the P39. Playing with Symons latest AC files it feels like they are doing better against Stratosweeping Zeroes.

Playing with Symons air mods, IMHO the P-39D is a better option than than the P-40E. The the only advantages the P-40E have are:

1) You slightly get more of them per month.
2) Better Endurance.
3) Better Range on a re base mission.
4) More accurate but less destructive weapon.

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RE: Aircobra or Warhawk

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ORIGINAL: LoBaron
replacement rate is not high enough to focus on a specific type in combat situations, and the performance difference is marginal.
+1

From the IJ side, I see no difference to speak of. Pilot EXP is far more determining than the difference between these two planes.
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I agree with the point about distributing them both across squadrons, so that you can keep up the high quantity of fighters pressuring the Japanese...
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Thanks for all the responses. It appears its much of a muchness.

I never intended using one frame to the exclusion of the other. But intending to use the "better" airframe in areas that I was prioritising.
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I'd pay more attention to the pilot exp/skill in the units you prioritise ... and the group leader skills ... more difference than choosing between those two planes. They are equally good in their timeframe.
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I'd pay more attention to the pilot exp/skill in the units you prioritise ... and the group leader skills ... more difference than choosing between those two planes. They are equally good in their timeframe.

I've had similar pilots and leaders, and although I'm not playing with Symon's changes, I disagree...

I really think that the P-39's cannon makes hits that for the P-40 would be "A6M2 Zero damaged" into "A6M2 destroyed"... And it's a CL cannon, too.

It's not so much about the speed, or the maneuver. It's about living through attacks from the Zero, and then landing a hit in return. All of that is comparable. The main difference is the punch of the guns on the two aircraft. If the hit kills the Zero it's way better than a hit that just damages a Zero and maybe doesn't even drive it from the fight.
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good point Lokasenna. Although I have to admit, I can't wait for the next upgrade....GP
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I'd pay more attention to the pilot exp/skill in the units you prioritise ... and the group leader skills ... more difference than choosing between those two planes. They are equally good in their timeframe.

I've had similar pilots and leaders, and although I'm not playing with Symon's changes, I disagree...

I really think that the P-39's cannon makes hits that for the P-40 would be "A6M2 Zero damaged" into "A6M2 destroyed"... And it's a CL cannon, too.

It's not so much about the speed, or the maneuver. It's about living through attacks from the Zero, and then landing a hit in return. All of that is comparable. The main difference is the punch of the guns on the two aircraft. If the hit kills the Zero it's way better than a hit that just damages a Zero and maybe doesn't even drive it from the fight.
Maybe.

I've never seen much difference between the two from the IJ side ... or better to say sometimes the P39 are a pain, other times the P40. That's all I'm saying. And again, from my persepctive, the A6M is so fragile, .303 brownings can kill it let alone a 37mm shell. Pretty sure a ruby throated hummingbird 'buzzed' one of mine once and put it the ground as well ... [:D]
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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I've had similar pilots and leaders, and although I'm not playing with Symon's changes, I disagree...

I really think that the P-39's cannon makes hits that for the P-40 would be "A6M2 Zero damaged" into "A6M2 destroyed"... And it's a CL cannon, too.

It's not so much about the speed, or the maneuver. It's about living through attacks from the Zero, and then landing a hit in return. All of that is comparable. The main difference is the punch of the guns on the two aircraft. If the hit kills the Zero it's way better than a hit that just damages a Zero and maybe doesn't even drive it from the fight.

+ 1 This has been my experiences as well with Symon's changes though September of 1942. 50+ Exp, 70+ Air and 70+ Def skill pilots seems shoot down more planes and cause more operational losses than the P-40E with the same level of pilots.
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