Upgrading squads

[Chris21wen]

Now what happens to the pool of the old squads. Currently I'm in the process of upgrading to US 42 squads. The current pool for the old US 41 is 462. I'm assuming that at sometime in the future, when there are no active US 41 squads, they will all be converted to US 42. Is this correct?

[moore4807]

I think its determined if your preferences at the beginning of the game were set to auto convert/upgrade units or not. If not, you will have am impressive pool of obsolete units [:D]

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Chris H

Now what happens to the pool of the old squads. Currently I'm in the process of upgrading to US 42 squads. The current pool for the old US 41 is 462. I'm assuming that at sometime in the future, when there are no active US 41 squads, they will all be converted to US 42. Is this correct?

Changed in the Jan. 2012 patch:

"40. After 6 months, an expired pooled device (squad or engineer type) will slowly convert to the upgraded version; if Japan, obsolete devices will revert to the raw materials."

[Symon]

Some people seem to think that carrying half the bombs equates to twice the range. This is not so. It is a power law relationship. Range equates (complexly) to fuel and speed, not necessarily weight. The bomb tonnage (aircraft weight) is a second order effect, so long as max take-off weight is not exceeded and the runway is long enough. Range is a power law function of speed and a (kinda/sorta) direct function of fuel – all other things being equal.

But enough of theory, let’s take a look at mistress Sally (to come). There’s two ways the bomb carrying characteristics of planes were established: space limited, and performance limited.

Space limited meant that the bays were configured for a certain set of armaments and there just wasn’t any way to squeeze in any more without reconfiguring the whole of the bay structure.

Performance limited meant that there was space, but that the hard limit was max take-off weight, so fuel had to be taken down to compensate.

Japanese planes were built to the ‘space limit’ standard. Their bays could hold a certain set of loadouts, and that was it. They spend their budget on fuel so that they could be either “fast or far”. It’s all in the math, and it’s not hard to figure. And it’s tactically appropriate in 1939, but Japan missed the conceptual boat.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Symon

Some people seem to think that carrying half the bombs equates to twice the range. This is not so. It is a power law relationship. Range equates (complexly) to fuel and speed, not necessarily weight. The bomb tonnage (aircraft weight) is a second order effect, so long as max take-off weight is not exceeded and the runway is long enough. Range is a power law function of speed and a (kinda/sorta) direct function of fuel – all other things being equal.

But enough of theory, let’s take a look at mistress Sally (to come). There’s two ways the bomb carrying characteristics of planes were established: space limited, and performance limited.

Space limited meant that the bays were configured for a certain set of armaments and there just wasn’t any way to squeeze in any more without reconfiguring the whole of the bay structure.

Performance limited meant that there was space, but that the hard limit was max take-off weight, so fuel had to be taken down to compensate.

Japanese planes were built to the ‘space limit’ standard. Their bays could hold a certain set of loadouts, and that was it. They spend their budget on fuel so that they could be either “fast or far”. It’s all in the math, and it’s not hard to figure. And it’s tactically appropriate in 1939, but Japan missed the conceptual boat.

I know you meant this for the other thread on Japanese bombers..[;)]

[Chris21wen]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Chris H

Now what happens to the pool of the old squads. Currently I'm in the process of upgrading to US 42 squads. The current pool for the old US 41 is 462. I'm assuming that at sometime in the future, when there are no active US 41 squads, they will all be converted to US 42. Is this correct?

Changed in the Jan. 2012 patch:

"40. After 6 months, an expired pooled device (squad or engineer type) will slowly convert to the upgraded version; if Japan, obsolete devices will revert to the raw materials."

Thought I'd seen that somewhere. Thanks