Defense against Recon and search

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Defense against Recon and search

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For CAP or LRCAP anybody worked out which is the most effective against enemy recon and search?
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Radar. Numbers (in this regard only the airborne CAP at the time of detection is of any value, scrambling fighters will close to never have enough time to intercept). And fighters capable of high speeds and high altitudes set as max alt CAP.

But in general, recon planes are quite difficult to intercept as their numbers are small - which makes detection difficult -, and their ceiling usually matches or surpasses the best of the high performance fighters. This is more true for Allied recon planes than for Japanese ones though.
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ORIGINAL: LoBaron

Radar. Numbers (in this regard only the airborne CAP at the time of detection is of any value, scrambling fighters will close to never have enough time to intercept). And fighters capable of high speeds and high altitudes set as max alt CAP.

But in general, recon planes are quite difficult to intercept as their numbers are small - which makes detection difficult -, and their ceiling usually matches or surpasses the best of the high performance fighters. This is more true for Allied recon planes than for Japanese ones though.

Thanks, much as I suspected.
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Chris H,
 
1.  Rely on CAP, not LRCAP, wherever possible.
 
Further to what LoBaron has pointed out, there is a chance of an interception occurring provided there are some interceptors in the hex.  The means by which the interceptors are positioned to be in the hex is not relevant.  Hence there is no point in incurring the malus associated with LRCAP when a simple CAP (including CAP which bleeds over) suffices.
 
2.  Generally speaking, aircraft on naval search are much more likely to be intercepted by fighters than are aircraft on recon missions.  Partly this is due to dedicated recon models having a much higher speed and altitude ceiling than patrol and float planes which are the mainstays for naval search missions.  But it is also partly due to the fact that recon missions are point to point missions whereas naval search are area missions.
 
3.  Do not overlook the value of flak.  By far the main causes for destruction of recon/naval search mission planes are operational and flak losses.  Some of the operational losses are due to flak damage previously received.
 
4.  One can also destroy enemy recon by bombing their airfields.  Basically impossible to do if striking at PA/FP operating from zero airfields and reliant upon seaplane tenders.
 
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one reason to use Altitude. I found that having recon flying at high alt (like they tended to do!) helps minimize flak losses. A real help when you have only a few specialized recons in an area. Worth their weight in gold they is as Yoda once said
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Yes, there seems to be little or no penalty on detection for flying camera equipped aircraft up high. None that I have noticed.
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Try to guess the altitude the enemy plane is searching/recon and put the CAP at that altitude, then keep tweaking.
Or if you have enough planes make a staggered CAP.
AA kills recon planes but does not appear to be so good killing search planes. Instead the recon planes are hit by flak much more easier. It makes sense.
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Sometimes it can also be effective to break a fighter unit into 3 sections and give each their own mission at different altitudes, and even different times of day..
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ORIGINAL: m10bob

Sometimes it can also be effective to break a fighter unit into 3 sections and give each their own mission at different altitudes, and even different times of day..

Yeah, but keep in mind this may result in poor leaders to parts of the unit making it necessary to expend PP's to change them. I never seem to have many spare PP's (at least early on). Still it may be possible.
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