B17 as a fighter plane

[guctony]

Has anybody tried to pilot B-17s with fighter pilot with high Air spects.

Also historically transfering bomber pilots to figter planes was a common thing in IJN.

[crsutton]

Since B17s have not maneuver so to speak, I don't think it matters. With bombers it is the defensive rating that helps them shoot down enemy fighters. So, I am pretty sure it would not make a difference. Early in the game I seem to recall that there was an issue with attack bombers shooting down obscene amounts of enemy fighters with their forward firing weapons but that was addressed.

[guctony]

ORIGINAL: crsutton

Since B17s have not maneuver so to speak, I don't think it matters. With bombers it is the defensive rating that helps them shoot down enemy fighters. So, I am pretty sure it would not make a difference. Early in the game I seem to recall that there was an issue with attack bombers shooting down obscene amounts of enemy fighters with their forward firing weapons but that was addressed.

Its good to know that in bombers only defensive ratings will work. If Air rating was also in effect it would be very interesting and dangerous.

[JeffroK]

The JFB complain about them as it is, dont give them more ammo to fire [8D]

Why not try it Guctony and report back.

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: guctony

ORIGINAL: crsutton

Since B17s have not maneuver so to speak, I don't think it matters. With bombers it is the defensive rating that helps them shoot down enemy fighters. So, I am pretty sure it would not make a difference. Early in the game I seem to recall that there was an issue with attack bombers shooting down obscene amounts of enemy fighters with their forward firing weapons but that was addressed.

Its good to know that in bombers only defensive ratings will work. If Air rating was also in effect it would be very interesting and dangerous.

Pilot air rating is a factor. You should read more closely what crsutton actually wrote.

Alfred

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: crsutton

Since B17s have not maneuver so to speak, I don't think it matters. With bombers it is the defensive rating that helps them shoot down enemy fighters. So, I am pretty sure it would not make a difference. Early in the game I seem to recall that there was an issue with attack bombers shooting down obscene amounts of enemy fighters with their forward firing weapons but that was addressed.

Ummm, not really. Still an issue. B-25D1 is the second best sweeper on the map after the P-47. Send them in with 4E and it's like having escorts.

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: crsutton

Since B17s have not maneuver so to speak, I don't think it matters. With bombers it is the defensive rating that helps them shoot down enemy fighters. So, I am pretty sure it would not make a difference. Early in the game I seem to recall that there was an issue with attack bombers shooting down obscene amounts of enemy fighters with their forward firing weapons but that was addressed.

Ummm, not really. Still an issue. B-25D1 is the second best sweeper on the map after the P-47. Send them in with 4E and it's like having escorts.

+1

B-25D1 is a b..ch. If You see that Jap fighter is making frontal attack You can say bye bye to frame and pilot. 1:1 ratio against them is a good day for Japan.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: crsutton

Since B17s have not maneuver so to speak, I don't think it matters. With bombers it is the defensive rating that helps them shoot down enemy fighters. So, I am pretty sure it would not make a difference. Early in the game I seem to recall that there was an issue with attack bombers shooting down obscene amounts of enemy fighters with their forward firing weapons but that was addressed.

Ummm, not really. Still an issue. B-25D1 is the second best sweeper on the map after the P-47. Send them in with 4E and it's like having escorts.

Interesting, thought it was taken care of. I have not watched an air to air combat replay in about four years. Perhaps, I should...[;)]

[Yaab]

That is the problem with frontal attacks by fighters. How can a B-25 aim with its nose MGs if the attack is performed as a high frontal attack? Nose MGs should only score hits with direct frontal attacks , though I do not see fighters performing such attacks - it is either a low frontal or a high frontal one. Even B-25's wing MGs shouldn't be scoring hits - just the TT (top turret) should score kills.

[wdolson]

There is also the issue of the lack of a gunsight. Some B-25s had one for the pilot, but most didn't.

The B-25 also didn't have any wing guns. All of the fixed forward firing machine guns were either in the nose or were in package guns along the side of the fuselage.

Bill

[JeffroK]

I looked through my TRACKER data and found very few kills for aircraft like the B25, A26 or Beaufighter, a couple of pilots with 1-3 kills, certainly no Richard Bong's amongst the Bomber pilots.