Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Vici Supreme]

Hey people!

I've already sent this to the responsibles, but I think I'm putting it in the thread too, so people can see what already has been requested.
So, I got my hands on the game for a while and now I felt like, finally, adding my personal requests to the thread.
At this point, I got to say that I'm more focussed on technology around 2000-onwards and modern/future developments, worldwide. I also enjoy
all the Cold War Era Stuff, but in my opinion this is already well represented with a lot of people working with. I think I'm going to give this a
little opposite.[;)]

I will post all of my current DB3000 Updates, splitted into blocks, over the weeks. Please take a moment and have a look of what I got so far.

Ships:
F201 Nicolás Bravo (Bronstein-class frigate) - Imao Mexico is still poorly represented in the Database. It would be cool to see a bit more stuff of Mexico in the upcoming updates.


[ADDED 1.07] Type 26 Global Combat Ship - To replace all remaining Type 23 frigates.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Combat_Ship


Tide-class (MARS Tanker) - An important asset to me because it will turn the Norwegian Navy into a decent Green-Water-Navy, capable of operating far inside the Arctic Circle with longer endurance.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide-class_tanker
bmt.org/projects/defence-royal-fleet-auxiliary-mars-tanker-design/


[ADDED DB v440] Svalbard-class (Coastguard OPV/Icebreaker) - Biggest and most state of the art vessel, serving in the Norwegian Coast Guard.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoCGV_Svalbard


Arctic Offshore Patrol Ship - Canadian Offshore Patrol Vessel under development based on the Norwegian Svalbard-class OPV. Roughly estimated to be operational around 2019(?).
casr.ca/bg-navy-aops-icebreaker.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Patrol_Ship_Project


Project621 Gawron-class - Polish Multipurpose Frigate. All ships of the class were cancelled, but the finished hull of the first laid down
ship (Slazak), received a contract to be converted into a heavy OPV with ASW capabilities. Would be the first new ship to be built for Poland's
Navy after 20 years. Also the frigate-seized design offers the chance to add additional armament (like Surface Missile Launchers) later on.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawron-class_corvette
navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/year-2013-news/december-2013-navy-naval-forces-maritime-industry-technology-security-global-news/1428-poland-finally-moving-forward-with-gawron-rook-class-corvette-project-projekt-621.html


Protector-class OPV - In service with the Royal New Zealand Navy, also known under Otage-class Offshore Patrol Vessel.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Protector#IPV
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector_class_offshore_patrol_vessel


Protector-class IPV - Smaller Inshore Patrol Boat, also used by New Zealand.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector-class_inshore_patrol_vessel


Holland-class OPV
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Dutch_Navy_OPV%27s


Sigma 10514-class - Indonesian frigate variant of the 9113 Sigma corvette. First ship to be commissioned into service in 2017. Will
become the leading frigate class of the TNI AL.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma-class_corvette
navyrecognition.com/index.php/world-naval-forces/asian-navies-vessels-ships-equipment/indonesia/frigates-and-corvettes/778-sigma-10514-pkr-frigate-indonesia-indonesian-navy-tni-al-perusak-kawal-rudal-pt-pal-dsns-damen-schelde-naval-shipbuilding-kri-datasheet-pictures-photos-video-specifications.html


Project22220 LK60-class Icebreaker - Altough alleged inital funding problems the first ship was laid down November 2013. Will be
launched between 2015-2016 and turned over to the Russian Navy in 2017. Cool future addition to the already existing soviet/russian icebreackers in the DB.
navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=552
voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_11_07/Russia-to-build-icebreakers-to-secure-its-Arctic-power-position-8762/
dgconcord.ru/en/22220


Bacolod City-class LSV - Philippine newest landing ship class. In my opinion, a relevant component of the PN as there are no up to date or
even no LST class DB platforms for the Filipinos in Command. Generally, there are currently news every week due to the Modernization Act of the
the whole Armed Forces branch.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRP_Bacolod_City_(LC-550)


Strategic Sealift Vessel (Future Philippine SSV's) - As i've read so far, the SSV's are scheduled to be delivered in 2015 and 2016(Sea trails
won't be performed at this time). The design will be based on the Indonesian Makasser-class LPD, but the ship itself will receive an indigenous
look, though.
maxdefense.blogspot.de/2013/08/finally-clearer-picture-on-philippine.html


That's all. For the moment...[:D]
I'm aware that not every of those requests may appear to be that much important to cover the wishes of a broad community. I can imagine that
getting informations about armament, sensors, engines, etc. for future developments will turn out to be very difficult and time-consuming. You
could use early computer concepts, showing installed platforms and proceed with the DB entry as more details are published (like you already do
with the X-47B).

It'll be really cool to see any (all of them even better[&o]) of those in future builds because they are, supposable, platforms I'm looking forward to
use in planned scenarios. I really appreciate considering my preferences as i know you surely got other stuff to handle!!!
Greetings

[Mgellis]

A couple of additional ships for Algeria, when there is time to add them...

MEKO A200 <-- not sure how different this is from the South African Valour-class.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_National_Navy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEKO_200

Project 20382 "Tigr" <-- not sure how different this is from the other versions of the Steregushchy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_National_Navy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steregushc ... s_corvette


Improved San Giorgio <-- not sure how different this is from the Italian version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_National_Navy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Giorgi ... sault_ship

[Mgellis]

Not sure if this has been suggested yet or not (I looked but I did not find anything)...

Improvised nuclear weapon

This would actually not be hard to set up--there are plenty of smaller nukes, in the 20-kiloton range, in the DB3000 database already; what is missing is one that...

A) Can be et off at 0 meters (ground level)...
B) Will affect surface targets...AND...
C) Has no range--it's not a missile; it's an explosive charge, so it doesn't get launched; it just gets detonated. Anything nearby, including the terrorists who set it off, or the cargo ship it was smuggled into without the knowledge of the captain and the crew, will be affected by the blast.

[Mgellis]

Another aircraft for the "nice to have added someday but not critical" list...

Yakovlev Yak-130
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-130

Described as a trainer and a light fighter, it would not be hard to see this getting used in combat missions if a country's front line aircraft had already taken serious losses. Syria, Vietnam, and Algeria all have this jet. I don't know if it would need separate entries for each country.

[Af1352pasha]

During search in data base for Russian Steregushchy class corvette Pr.20380-1-2 there is no any record of vertical launching system ( 8 x Cell )for Both below missiles:

1- KH-35 Uran SS-N-25
2- SS-N-29 Anti submarine

As pr.20381 and pr.20382 use some sort of above weapons via "VLS" please kindly consider for adding to data base.

link of wiki for information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steregushc ... s_corvette

[Mgellis]

Another "nice to have someday" platform, but since some versions are already in the CWDB, at least getting the data for it should not be hard...

Lockheed T-33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_T ... oting_Star

Canadair CT-133 Silver Star
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_T-33

These mostly served as trainers, but they can carry bombs, etc., and might do well as COIN aircraft, or possibly part of a rebel air force in some parts of the world if a civil war broke out there. Most are retired, but they served in many countries through the 1990s, and Bolivia STILL operates about 30 of them.

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: gsmith63

Requesting that the Mk 29 Sea Sparrow launchers on US Nimitz-class CVNs and later LHDs from ~2008+ be modified to include RIM-162D Evolved Sea Sparrow missile. Currently none of them carry it. I believe the D variant was specifically designed for use on these ships.

http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id=111558

http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id=89533

http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id=72050

http://www.bga-aeroweb.com/Defense/RIM-162-ESSM.html

Gregg

Updated, thanks! [8D]

[Sardaukar]

Request to add more advanced Israeli ELTA etc. EW/ECM systems/pods.

I noticed that all IDF/AF combat planes use EL/L 8202 ECM pods with 80's technology. This is probably not true anymore, since Israel is one of the world leaders (if not THE leader) in area of ECM. So, this technology (EL/L 8212/22 is already in game, just not in planes it seems, but some info: http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/0/36830.pdf)

They should be at least 90's - 21st century tech or "advanced". Don't know how game uses the definitions. [8D]

Request to add:

EL/L-8247/8 Integral Self Protection Suites

http://www.iai.co.il/2013/34486-26550-en/IAI.aspx
http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/FILES/9/27539.pdf

EL/L 8251 Escort Jammer

http://www.iai.co.il/2013/34486-38684-en/IAI.aspx
http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/9/36129.pdf

ELISRA ASPS:

http://www.elisra.com/asps.html

[CV60]

Request to add the canceled USN A-12 attack aircraft. Although canceled, it would give a hypothetical CVBG a long range strike capability, something lacking in the current F/A-18-based airwing, so could be the basis for interesting hypothetical scenarios.

[lowchi]

i have also a request for a hypothetical aircraft.

RQ-180

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.asp ... 643783.xml

"The RQ-180 carries radio-frequency sensors such as active, electronically scanned array (AESA) radar and passive electronic surveillance measures...."

"It is similar in size and endurance to the Global Hawk, which weighs 32,250 lb. and can stay on station for 24 hr. 1,200 nm from its base...."

"A key feature of the RQ-180’s design is an improvement in all-aspect, broadband radar cross-section reduction over Lockheed Martin’s F-117, F-22 and F-35. "

"The RQ-180 could use a medium-­bypass-ratio engine, similar to the modified CF34 engine eyed for early X&#8209;47-based concepts. Its engine probably has more power than the Global Hawk’s 7,600-lb.-thrust Rolls-Royce AE3007H, to provide better altitude performance and electrical power for payload growth."

[Russian Heel]

emsoy

Thank you for adding an unhealthy obsession on mine the Yak-141(41). I pick up every English and Russian language source talking about this program. Messing around in the editor it 'feels' right to me, except I'm not sure where you got your loadout information. Here is the actual planned/designed load-outs and mission range:

Click here

Source for this is &#1050;&#1088;&#1099;&#1083;&#1100;&#1103; &#1056;&#1086;&#1076;&#1080;&#1085;&#1099; issue 6 from 1994 which sources the information from the official project, which I concur.

You can prob figure out by the numbers what is what but if not just ask me. (Top is air -air, next anti-ship, then air to ground.)

[lowchi]

Request for DB3000: General Atomics Avenger (formerly Predator C)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_Avenger

THX!

[Dide]

I love this plane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenia_Aermacchi_M-346_Master,
and ask if you could change the icon of the Cavour aircraft carrier,().

[Dide]

Thanks![:)]

[Mgellis]

We could probably use one or two conventional improvised explosive devices, too. The suicide explosive in the database has a range of one mile...that's a pretty impressive throwing arm that terrorist has; he'd had done better to take up baseball! The range on that should be reduced, again maybe to 0.01 miles (but with about 100% hit probability because it will now be right next to the target). And maybe a couple of extra sizes for charges...along with a 4-kg. charge, maybe a medium-sized one big enough to fit in a small boat (100 kg.) and another big enough to put in a light truck (500 kg?).

Maybe use some of the data for mines that's already in the database? After all, that's basically what we're talking about here. Not sure if that would work, though. \

Anyway, just a thought.

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

Not sure if this has been suggested yet or not (I looked but I did not find anything)...

Improvised nuclear weapon

This would actually not be hard to set up--there are plenty of smaller nukes, in the 20-kiloton range, in the DB3000 database already; what is missing is one that...

A) Can be et off at 0 meters (ground level)...
B) Will affect surface targets...AND...
C) Has no range--it's not a missile; it's an explosive charge, so it doesn't get launched; it just gets detonated. Anything nearby, including the terrorists who set it off, or the cargo ship it was smuggled into without the knowledge of the captain and the crew, will be affected by the blast.

[Af1352pasha]

Request for adding Project 1204 Shmel for Russian navy:

http://russian-ships.info/eng/bordergua ... t_1204.htm

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Russian Heel

emsoy

Thank you for adding an unhealthy obsession on mine the Yak-141(41). I pick up every English and Russian language source talking about this program. Messing around in the editor it 'feels' right to me, except I'm not sure where you got your loadout information. Here is the actual planned/designed load-outs and mission range:

Click here

Source for this is &#1050;&#1088;&#1099;&#1083;&#1100;&#1103; &#1056;&#1086;&#1076;&#1080;&#1085;&#1099; issue 6 from 1994 which sources the information from the official project, which I concur.

You can prob figure out by the numbers what is what but if not just ask me. (Top is air -air, next anti-ship, then air to ground.)

Thanks! But is that combat range or radius? There are no details on profile either, so the stats don't really say much. Sorry!

Hi-Hi-Hi at optimum alt and speed will easily produce twice the range of Lo-Lo-Lo with mil dash on target, etc.

[ComDev]

Added the following as per request:
&nbsp;
P 171 Baynunah -- UAE (Navy), 2012
Q 40 Al-Shamikh [Khareef Class] -- Oman (Navy), 2014

[Russian Heel]

ORIGINAL: emsoy

ORIGINAL: Russian Heel

emsoy

Thank you for adding an unhealthy obsession on mine the Yak-141(41). I pick up every English and Russian language source talking about this program. Messing around in the editor it 'feels' right to me, except I'm not sure where you got your loadout information. Here is the actual planned/designed load-outs and mission range:

Click here

Source for this is &#1050;&#1088;&#1099;&#1083;&#1100;&#1103; &#1056;&#1086;&#1076;&#1080;&#1085;&#1099; issue 6 from 1994 which sources the information from the official project, which I concur.

You can prob figure out by the numbers what is what but if not just ask me. (Top is air -air, next anti-ship, then air to ground.)

Thanks! But is that combat range or radius? There are no details on profile either, so the stats don't really say much. Sorry!

Hi-Hi-Hi at optimum alt and speed will easily produce twice the range of Lo-Lo-Lo with mil dash on target, etc.

Oops, it says 'combat radius' at the bottom, I forget not everybody speaks Russian and not everything is as obvious as I think, I apologize for that. It doesn't have profile details and neither does any of the public project data I have only these radius numbers.

But, it was certainly planned for the a/c to carry the R-77 (AA-12) Kh-31 (AS-17) (Both A and P variants) Kh-35 (AS-20)and Kh-25 (AS-10) (As well as the Kh-27 ARM variant you have added) Also planned were 6 freefall bombs of the 250kg class, 4 rocket pods, or 4 gun pods (UPK-23-250)

With only the Kh-29T you have taken away stand-off ASM capability which was a major point for the Soviet Navy moving into the 90s. They required all fixed wing strike fighters to have a stand off anti-ship capability. It is why the Kh-31 and kh-35 were developed.

[Mgellis]

Here's another couple of "no rush, but please add someday" platforms...

Let L-410 Turbolet (Various)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_L-410# ... operations
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... 410_en.php
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=50

Basler Turbo AC-47 T Fantasma (Colombia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_Air_Force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basler_BT-67