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RE: 24-27th December 1944

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

No NFs? I lost 20-30 B29s for each raid to them. So more then 1-2 raids per month is impossible. [:(]

Hi Jocke,

There are NF's but only in drips and drabs (would only assume this is due to limited number of production and planes that Faber has?!?).

I tend to lose 0-5 B29's per raid in general and probably launch about 15-18 raids per month.
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RE: 24-27th December 1944

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Wow, you are really close now! [:)]

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RE: 23rd December 1944

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Indeed. Massive credit to Faber carrying on with this game for so long. I can't imagine it's a lot of fun for him yet he is always very punctual at sending back turns. I for one don't begrudge him this tactical victory.

Yes. well said.

Just caught up to this and being the guys who had half the KB sunk by a 22 knot BB TF I understand Castor Tory's position noted earlier.

The one confusing part to me in your listing is that you say the ships attacked at night and yet your report states Daytime. It also says 4k yards, so that makes me think for some reason there was low visibility, which is the only thing that could have let these quick ships dart in for a little surprise.

I do think the neutered power of combat ships in CV TFs is a bit hard to swallow though regardless of the other potential factors involved here.
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RE: 23rd December 1944

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Hi obvert. Thanks for your thoughts. You're right on the surface combat. It must have retreated and got attacked in the daytime. Rest of the factors exist mind you.

As a tidbit I'd love to be able to look at the Japanese side in this game. I'd really like to see the state of the economy and what exists where!
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RE: 23rd December 1944

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Hi obvert. Thanks for your thoughts. You're right on the surface combat. It must have retreated and got attacked in the daytime. Rest of the factors exist mind you.

As a tidbit I'd love to be able to look at the Japanese side in this game. I'd really like to see the state of the economy and what exists where!

Yeah, it would be interesting to see a lot of late war economic situations to get a feeling for how certain game types play out.
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RE: 23rd December 1944

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Maybe once I've achieved AV I'll ask Faber to pop in to this AAR and post screenshots of various things..............
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3rd January 1945

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Hi all,

Ok. Caveat firstly. I'm disappointed and frustrated with the combat engine again......

A quiet 2 first days of 1945 (one thing to note which is very good is AE's replenishing CV/CVE Ops points = brilliant).

The 3rd of January was a different matter off Hong Kong (again).

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Once more a CV TF 'RETREATS' INTO the path of an enemy SC TF. FFS. IDIOT ENGINE:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Hong Kong at 79,64, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Shell hits 5
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 1
CA Kako, Shell hits 1
CL Yahagi
CL Sakawa
CL Sendai
DD Shimakaze
DD Shiratsuyu, Shell hits 1
DD Isonami, Shell hits 1
DD Asanagi

Allied Ships
CV Victorious
CV Indefatigable, Shell hits 8, on fire
BB Richelieu
CA Australia
CL Emerald, Shell hits 1
CLAA Phoebe
DD Johnston
DD Kimberly
DD Knapp
DD Laws
DD Richard P. Leary
DD Leutze
DD Longshaw
DD Luce
DD Marshall
DD McCord
DD McDermut
DD McNair
DD Melvin
DD Mertz
DD Miller
DD Murray
DD Newcomb
CL Vincennes II
CA Canberra II

'Fortunately' CV Indefatigable only has 26 SYS Damage and light FLT/ENG damage. The annoying this is this caused my CV stack to all retreat back towards Singapore and they didn't launch any daylight raids. Brilliant day lads. Just brilliant.

To cap is off the SC TF escorting my CV TF's bumped into Yamato and had a total failure with my gunners not able to hit a barn door and BB Howe's magazine exploded. Fantastic. BB New Mexico and CL Ceylon also sunk meaning I need a further 850 VP's to get AV. Nice work guys really nice work. ^*£^*£^)^£)""*$%*)!

Night Time Surface Combat, near Hong Kong at 78,64, Range 12,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Shell hits 9, on fire
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 2
CA Maya
CL Oyodo, Shell hits 6
CL Yura, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Akizuki, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Murasame, Shell hits 1
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hatsuharu, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 20, and is sunk
BB Howe, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
CA Suffolk, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
CL Gambia, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Ceylon, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Newfoundland, Shell hits 2
CL Newcastle, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
DD Sims
DD Hughes, Shell hits 1
DD Anderson
DD Mustin, Shell hits 1
DD Henley
DD Preston
DD Worden, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Dale, Shell hits 2, on fire


The only consolation was my subs put in a decent performance around Hong Kong:

SS Thornback hit CV Katsuragi trying to flee Hong Kong with a torpedo.

SS Rock hit BB Kirishima with a torpedo outside Hong Kong.

Then SS Snook hit CA Maya with a torpedo returning to Hong Kong after blowing up the SC TF.

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The only other news to note is Mariana based B29's shifted their target to Tokyo's AF's packed with over 800 planes. I've stopped these night raids now though as I lost 18 x B29 for about 80 enemy planes.

Once a couple more CV TF's reach back on station of Iwo Jima in the next 3 days I'll invade Iwo Jima (tired of waiting and the fort levels mean bombing causes such little damage) and then probably send my CV's up to Japan for a final showdown to finish off Japan and force them to the table.

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RE: 3rd January 1945

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Ah silly engine, still from a BBfanboy, it is still nice to see the Yamato pack her punc in 45 (although completely ahistorical).
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RE: 3rd January 1945

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(1) Another 25 ship CV TF?

(2) It is never a good idea to put a slow BB (New Mexico) in a TF together with a fast BB (Howe) in the same Surface Combat TF.
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RE: 3rd January 1945

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ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

(1) Another 25 ship CV TF?

(2) It is never a good idea to put a slow BB (New Mexico) in a TF together with a fast BB (Howe) in the same Surface Combat TF.

1.) Sure. I want good AA on them and you're missing the point. AGAIN the TF retreated INTO the path of a SC TF.

2.) Fair point on that but still a dismal display by my boys.
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RE: 3rd January 1945

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Oh, that sucks Speedy. [:(]
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RE: 3rd January 1945

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Faber's said he had 4 x SC TF's out there so it may well be the engine couldn't cope and they had no choice but to withdraw into a SC TF....who knows. Nothing can be done about it now.

Some revenge was exacted next day anyhow. More later.
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4-5th January 1945

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Hi all,

The focus is once more off Hong Kong as vicious battles rage.

The Allies exact a measure of revenge on the IJN over the past 2 days.

On the 4th CV forces had to once more dodge IJN SC TF's (which they do so fortunately) and launch successful reprisal air raids in the day:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 77,61

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 49
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 13
Hellcat I x 15
Hellcat F.II x 31
F4U-1D Corsair x 78
F6F-5 Hellcat x 27
TBM-3 Avenger x 71

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 13 damaged
Avenger II: 1 destroyed by flak
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed by flak
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
Hellcat F.II: 1 destroyed
TBM-3 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
TBM-3 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Torpedo hits 1
xAK Sanura Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shirayuki
AMC Hokoku Maru
BB Kirishima, Torpedo hits 2
xAK Unyo Maru #2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
xAKL Shingetsu Maru
xAKL Ryua Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Naka
xAKL Saiho Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Gyoun Maru
DD Maki
xAKL Hachirogata Maru
xAK Iwashiro Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Satsuma Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AMC Kinryu Maru
CA Mikuma, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

AND:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 77,61

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 45
Corsair II x 14
Corsair IV x 12
Hellcat I x 14
Hellcat F.II x 29
F6F-5 Hellcat x 13
TBM-3 Avenger x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 20 damaged
Avenger II: 1 destroyed by flak
Corsair II: 1 destroyed
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
TBM-3 Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Nojima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Maki
AMC Hokoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Iwashiro Maru, on fire, heavy damage
CL Jintsu
xAK Konan Maru
xAK Yamahagi Maru
xAKL Aiyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1
DD Mutsuki
DD Hatsukaze
xAK Kyokuzan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AMC Kinryu Maru

CA Mikuma's magazine exploded and BB Kirishima has most likely limped into Hong Kong Harbour.

On the 5th I sent some loving in on the high seas as well which netted a successful haul:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Hong Kong at 77,61, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Choun Maru #21, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PB Sonobe Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
PB Tamo Maru #7, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PB Yachiyo Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PB Kiso Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Nanpo Maru, Shell hits 33, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Shinyubari Maru
xAK Daisin Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
xAK Yuri Maru, Shell hits 1
xAKL Batavia Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Hikosan Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAK Konan Maru
xAKL Kurama Maru
xAK La Plata Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Natsukawa Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Nihonka Maru
xAKL Uragami Maru
xAK Yamakisan Maru
xAKL Yamabuki Maru, Shell hits 2
xAKL Kamishima Maru
xAKL Kasui Maru
xAKL Kaishi Maru
xAKL Suez Maru, Shell hits 1
xAKL Gyokurei Maru
xAKL Chosen Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAKL Nanka Maru
xAKL Kokuei Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAKL Nittatsu Maru
xAKL Dori Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Yagi Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAK Chuko Maru
xAKL Shingetsu Maru
xAKL Etashima Maru
xAKL Shun Yuan
xAKL Hachirogata Maru
xAKL Gyoun Maru
PB Toko Maru #4, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
SC CHa-22, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
BB Richelieu, Shell hits 1
CA Dorsetshire
CL Phoenix
DD McCord
DD McDermut
DD McGowan
DD McNair
DD Stephen Potter
DD Radford
DD Stanly
DD Bailey
DD Hammann
CL Vincennes II
CL Houston II
CA Chicago II

Followed by:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Hong Kong at 77,61, Range 5,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AMC Kinryu Maru, Shell hits 42, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Yamahagi Maru, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Ikushima Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
AMC Hokoku Maru, Shell hits 42, and is sunk
SC Ch 32, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
SC CHa-43, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Richelieu
CA Dorsetshire
CL Phoenix
DD McCord
DD McDermut
DD McGowan
DD McNair
DD Stephen Potter
DD Radford
DD Stanly
DD Bailey
DD Hammann
CL Vincennes II
CL Houston II
CA Chicago II

And finally:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Hong Kong at 77,62, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Naka, Shell hits 11, on fire
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Wakaba
DD Yugure, Shell hits 6, on fire
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 1
DD Maki, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kiri, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Sugi, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 1
DD Minekaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Richelieu, Shell hits 4
CA Dorsetshire
CL Phoenix, Shell hits 1
DD McCord, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD McDermut
DD McGowan
DD McNair, Shell hits 1
DD Stephen Potter, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Radford
DD Stanly, Shell hits 2
DD Bailey
CL Vincennes II, Shell hits 2
CL Houston II
CA Chicago II, Shell hits 3

CV Air finished off CL Naka with 2 torpedoes in the daytime.

We'll stay on station for a further day or so to see what else we can sink.

My subs also said hello with SS Redfin reporting hitting CVL Chiyoda with a torpedo as she fled Hong Kong for Shanghai.

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CentPac:

Little to report here with my Fleet off Iwo Jima awaiting the return of an CV TF (due in 3 days). We'll then invade Iwo Jima and push the CV's up to Japan to say hello.
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RE: 4-5th January 1945

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Thats a nice little haul of VPs... [:)]
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6-9th January 1945

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Hi all,

We're nearing the end of the war but it drags on......

CentPac:

B29's still resting here but the landings went in on Iwo Jima on the 9th. Very heavy indeed:

Ground combat at Iwo-jima (108,77)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 23561 troops, 371 guns, 622 vehicles, Assault Value = 1255

Defending force 27242 troops, 309 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 589

Allied adjusted assault: 53

Japanese adjusted defense: 3685

Allied assault odds: 1 to 69 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
462 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (3 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7469 casualties reported
Squads: 158 destroyed, 521 disabled
Non Combat: 148 destroyed, 152 disabled
Engineers: 43 destroyed, 46 disabled
Guns lost 200 (36 destroyed, 164 disabled)
Vehicles lost 336 (156 destroyed, 180 disabled)

Assaulting units:
44th Tank Battalion
81st Infantry Division
5th Marine Division
XIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
716th Tank Battalion
V US Amphib Corps

Defending units:
52nd Division
Iwo-jima Naval Guard Unit
72nd JAAF AF Bn
109th JAAF AF Bn
19th Army
6th Naval Construction Battalion
14th Base Force
33rd Special Base Force
73rd JAAF AF Bn
63rd JNAF AF Unit
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
11th JAAF AF Bn

The only saving grace is the large Eng Rgt is in full condition. The Marines are out of it though. I'll probably try an attack in many days time and hope the Engineers reduce the forts. If not Iwo will not fall before game end.

My CV's have moved northwards and will be 6 hexes south of Tokyo tomorrow. I'm not planning any offensive strikes tomorrow as I want to absorb anything the Japs throw at me. There's a reported 750 fighters at Tokyo alone [:)]

My B29's will begin operations again in a day or 2 time.

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SRA:

Fairly quiet here as my CV's headed back to Singapore starting on the 8th. Raids were launched on Hong Kong's port on the 6th and 7th. Both Yamato and Kirishima are in port and were hit with 20ish bombs. Once I've re-armed at Singapore I'll be back again.
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RE: 6-9th January 1945

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Wow the Iwo operation looks like it could be bloody! Do you think you are likely to make auto victory by the end of the year?

As a relative newbie does the game check for Auto victory continuously or just at set points such as the end of the year?

I also wanted to mention my admiration for your opponent who is somehow keeping the turns flowing whilst being slaughtered! Although I guess sinking those CVEs of yours brought a much needed morale boost [:D]
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RE: 6-9th January 1945

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Ouch @ Iwo. [:(]

In all honestly I simply don´t think you have enough to take it. 3-4 more Marine IDs and it might have worked. Do you have anything more prepped for Iwo?
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RE: 6-9th January 1945

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Hi Guys,

Powloon: I should get AV within the month! I only need 3000 more VP's to do so. Strategic bombing and CV raids on Japan should secure that and force the Japanese to surrender.

JocMeister: I don't think so either but it's a mute point now. I'll try 1 attack in the next week or so and if that doesn't work I'll sit there until game end in the next month. I have 1 more ID prepped for it but won't send it in as it won't make enough of a difference.
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RE: 6-9th January 1945

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Sounds reasonable. Another ID won´t change anything and landing with it now would just trigger another shock attack!
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10-12th January 1945

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Hi all,

CentPac:

Japan felt the power of the Allies when on the 10th January The CV Armada arrived south of Tokyo. Over the past 3 days a series of sweeps over Tokyo and failed raids against my CV's (sometimes encountering 500 x Hellcat on CAP) have lead to over 500 enemy planes reported destroyed for the loss of 70 Friendlies. I even encountered some Nates!

I'll probably attack Tokyo's AF's in a few days time and then the B29's will begin to bomb Tokyo again from the Mariana's.

All quiet on Iwo Jima as my men rest and supplies flow ashore.

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SRA:

My CV's will be back in Singapore on 13th January. We'll re-arm and head back to Hong Kong to try and sink the ships in port there.

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