Zero SMPs for Germany after taking Poland

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Zero SMPs for Germany after taking Poland

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Playing the Grand Campaign, just took Poland, and now Germany has zero strategic movement points. That didn't used to happen, so is it a new event (which I don't see) or a bug? Playing 1.4.

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By the way, I noted the same thing in the alternative Grand Campaign, and thought it was by design. But now it seems quite odd. I figure it's a bug.

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RE: Zero SMPs for Germany after taking Poland

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I am playing the GC PBEM as the Allies, and I read every event in full as they come up, but do not recall anything negative being mentioned after the fall of Poland. I do remember playing Barbarossa with the Axis vs AI USSR and getting an event with the German people becoming discouraged with the length of the war or something similar, but it only decreased PP slightly, due to unrest I think. Perhaps my PBEM opponent had a similar experience as you did? If so, then the event needs to be corrected in 1.5(if at all possible).
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RE: Zero SMPs for Germany after taking Poland

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That happened to me as well. It is like the STP's can only be used once when the game starts versus every turn. So I actually had to build more as walking from Poland to France takes FOREVER lol. France actually fell before all the troops made it [X(]. Of course then they had to go back [:D]

Once you build new ones, they work as they should. You can use them every turn. It seems that the one's you start with act differently.
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definitely a bug. shouldn't have to build any - that's expensive. Playing solo, just go into the data files and add more. Playing PBEM I'm stuck.

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ORIGINAL: gwgardner
definitely a bug. shouldn't have to build any - that's expensive. Playing solo, just go into the data files and add more. Playing PBEM I'm stuck.

For PBEM could't you use F12 to make up the PP deficit in restoring the STPs, by agreement with your opponent, who should get a notification of the F12 activity.
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RE: Zero SMPs for Germany after taking Poland

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Which file?
ORIGINAL: Rasputitsa

ORIGINAL: gwgardner
definitely a bug. shouldn't have to build any - that's expensive. Playing solo, just go into the data files and add more. Playing PBEM I'm stuck.

For PBEM could't you use F12 to make up the PP deficit in restoring the STPs, by agreement with your opponent, who should get a notification of the F12 activity.
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RE: Zero SMPs for Germany after taking Poland

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It's a moot point, since 1.5 fixes the bug.

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ORIGINAL: FJeff
Which file?
ORIGINAL: Rasputitsa
ORIGINAL: gwgardner
definitely a bug. shouldn't have to build any - that's expensive. Playing solo, just go into the data files and add more. Playing PBEM I'm stuck.
For PBEM could't you use F12 to make up the PP deficit in restoring the STPs, by agreement with your opponent, who should get a notification of the F12 activity.

Not sure what you mean, 'which file' - for what.

Using F12, during a turn, produces a screen in which you can change PP and DP levels for the nations and switch nations between AI and human control, this is useful in adjusting games played against the AI and in fixing anomalies in the scenarios. For solo play you can decide for yourself how much you want to use this feature, but in PBEM it could be used as a cheat, so a feature was added to notify opponents of the use of the F12 feature.
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ORIGINAL: Rasputitsa
but in PBEM it could be used as a cheat, so a feature was added to notify opponents of the use of the F12 feature.

I've never been able to use F12 or F11 in PBEM. How do you do it? I mean PBEM++.

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ORIGINAL: gwgardner
ORIGINAL: Rasputitsa
but in PBEM it could be used as a cheat, so a feature was added to notify opponents of the use of the F12 feature.

I've never been able to use F12 or F11 in PBEM. How do you do it? I mean PBEM++.
I am just remembering the discussion we had when Doomtrader first told us about the availability of F12 and when it was pointed out that this could be a PBEM cheat, it was said that an F12 notification was provided.
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RE: Zero SMPs for Germany after taking Poland

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After suffering through the 0 SMPs event since the fall of Poland, imagine my surprise to find an event that triggers in the GC PBEM scenario on the turn after taking Paris, that leaves me with -103 PPs!? Still no SMPs, and France fell mostly by Infantry attacks as my Armor was still in Yugoslavia when the event triggered declaring war on low countries. This is leaving me thinking about returning to CEAW. Much less frustrating.
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