ARDs: Tell me how they work
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ARDs: Tell me how they work
OK, I've been playing for awhile, and I still don't get how ARDs work exactly, and how they should be used.
I understand that they can repair major float damage for a ship that has a lower tonnage than their capacity. So, the 55,000 ton ABSDs the USN gets can repair major float on a BB. Right?
If so, how does that work? Do you assign to "Repair Ship?", or does it happen like magic if the BB is disbanded in the same port?
Finally, how are they best used? Like forward MASH units, performaing urgent triage to get the patient stable, before transfer to a rear-area hospital, IE shipyard?
Fill me in please! USN gets a bunch in late war; feels like a mobile shipyard, but they are not quite the same thing
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I understand that they can repair major float damage for a ship that has a lower tonnage than their capacity. So, the 55,000 ton ABSDs the USN gets can repair major float on a BB. Right?
If so, how does that work? Do you assign to "Repair Ship?", or does it happen like magic if the BB is disbanded in the same port?
Finally, how are they best used? Like forward MASH units, performaing urgent triage to get the patient stable, before transfer to a rear-area hospital, IE shipyard?
Fill me in please! USN gets a bunch in late war; feels like a mobile shipyard, but they are not quite the same thing
Thanks!
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
ARD Auxiliary Repair Dock A floating drydock used to repair damage below the waterline. ARDs can only repair hull damage but do it much better than any other type of tender or repair ship.
I haven't used them that much yet. Seems pretty straightforward. Don't know about the criteria you mention.
I have seen and used the Tender option for Repairing (whatever it's actually called). "Manage Ships under Repair" can be used, also.
I have finally learned that Support vessels can be left unorganized into TFs. Recently, I saw a post saying Auxs need not have Supply on board (if they can) to function.
So is the Supply capability for some of them just for realism?
Don't mean to hijack, just thought I'd bring it up.
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
They are inferior to a shipyard and are your last resort if a warship gets stranded in some lesser port, say Noumea (if you're lucky). Don't expect great things from them but they are a lot better than nothing at all. Just do enough flotation repair to where you feel confident the ship can make it to a shipyard without sinking.
RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
ARDs must be disbanded in port to function, as must all auxiliaries (except Allied AEs after 1/45, they can be in ReplTFs). You need do nothing special, they function at whatever repair-level you've chosen (except, presumably, shipyard). Yes, it happens 'like magic'.
I'm not sure if other auxiliaries need to be loaded w/ supply to carry out their repair functions (but only an AR can be used for Repair Ship mode), but AV/AVD/AVP types do need supply on-board to repair damaged floatplanes.
Auxiliaries must be loaded w/ supply to re-arm the ships they're capable of re-arming, but if the port is large enough, the ships will use the port facilities to re-arm.
Check out this 'What to do w/ all those Tenders' post:
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and also Alfred's 'Ship Repair 101', section 10:
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I'm not sure if other auxiliaries need to be loaded w/ supply to carry out their repair functions (but only an AR can be used for Repair Ship mode), but AV/AVD/AVP types do need supply on-board to repair damaged floatplanes.
Auxiliaries must be loaded w/ supply to re-arm the ships they're capable of re-arming, but if the port is large enough, the ships will use the port facilities to re-arm.
Check out this 'What to do w/ all those Tenders' post:
tm.asp?m=2357971
and also Alfred's 'Ship Repair 101', section 10:
tm.asp?m=2990845
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
The quick and helpful around here are amazing. THX, as always.
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
My only experience with ARDs came in my first AE PBEM match vs. Miller years ago (all my other PBEMs have ended long before the ARDs show up). The one thing I remember is that an ARD showed up in Portland, Oregon, and was too big to navigate the river to the ocean. So the critter just had to stay in Portland!
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
Brad, pretty simple: disband it in a port (I remember I used Noumea) which is pretty close to the front but not too much (you don't wanna have it bombed).
When a damaged ship arrived, disband her, then go to the ship repair management screen and you should see that it now gives you the chance to drydock her (which is impossible in a normal port without the shipyard). This will fix some major flt damage. I remember I fixed a BB at Noumea that got hit by a night aerial torpedo at Tulagi.
Works pretty well indeed. It's just a pain to move them...takes like 4 months to move them from SF to SOPAC...
When a damaged ship arrived, disband her, then go to the ship repair management screen and you should see that it now gives you the chance to drydock her (which is impossible in a normal port without the shipyard). This will fix some major flt damage. I remember I fixed a BB at Noumea that got hit by a night aerial torpedo at Tulagi.
Works pretty well indeed. It's just a pain to move them...takes like 4 months to move them from SF to SOPAC...
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
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My only experience with ARDs came in my first AE PBEM match vs. Miller years ago (all my other PBEMs have ended long before the ARDs show up). The one thing I remember is that an ARD showed up in Portland, Oregon, and was too big to navigate the river to the ocean. So the critter just had to stay in Portland!
That was patched.
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My only experience with ARDs came in my first AE PBEM match vs. Miller years ago (all my other PBEMs have ended long before the ARDs show up). The one thing I remember is that an ARD showed up in Portland, Oregon, and was too big to navigate the river to the ocean. So the critter just had to stay in Portland!
That was patched.
Yes, it was. But if you are playing a campaign started before any patches came out it did not change. Mine has been stuck in that damn sound for four years now....[;)]
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
In my last stock #1 game vs AI they sailed right out of portland with no problem.[8D].
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
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My only experience with ARDs came in my first AE PBEM match vs. Miller years ago (all my other PBEMs have ended long before the ARDs show up). The one thing I remember is that an ARD showed up in Portland, Oregon, and was too big to navigate the river to the ocean. So the critter just had to stay in Portland!
That was patched.
Yes, it was. But if you are playing a campaign started before any patches came out it did not change. Mine has been stuck in that damn sound for four years now....[;)]
Which might say more about your game than the patch. [:)]
Finish up already. The game has changed just a bit since then.
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
What do you expect? In many other ways the hippie is stuck in the '60s. [:'(]
RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
ARD-6 is about to dock at Pearl in a couple of turns before shipping out to...oh I don't know, Kwajalein. My question: Is there a ARD-5? 1-4 are already in position at various South/Southwest ports. I would think I would have noticed her being sunk. Didn't see her ships sunk, on map or arrivals lists.
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ARD-6 is about to dock at Pearl in a couple of turns before shipping out to...oh I don't know, Kwajalein. My question: Is there a ARD-5? 1-4 are already in position at various South/Southwest ports. I would think I would have noticed her being sunk. Didn't see her ships sunk, on map or arrivals lists.
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That was my guess. Couldn't find any information regarding her wartime deployment.
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Reptiles don't respond well to patting, petting or stroking, I'm afraid.
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
Pretty sure that ARD's only repair float damage ... you used to need an AR with it to trigger the effect, that requirement was patched out. So, they are VERY useful at forward bases say where you are setting up your amphib op's, to repair post amphib landing float damage enough for the ship to get back to WC for complete repairs.
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RE: ARDs: Tell me how they work
I have a heavy cruiser in Noumea with 71 flotation and I am afraid to move her, I tried a AR but no joy. I have my ARD heading to Noumea now ... I sure how I can repair her ...
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