Basic info on War in the West 43-45
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
Full game.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
Can't wait for this game.
I'm a bit suprised, however, that these new games (WITW series) will be using more the WITE system than the WITPAE one. Considering the success it had and the level of appreciation that still gets by the gallery, i don't understand why WITPAE hasn't been used as the "core" from where to develop this new game.
Some of the BTR ideas and a more detailed land combat system (even if i believe the recent "field" modifications - say the DaBabes mods + Michealm's patches - have greatly improved the landwarfare), along with the naval-locistic witpae system, could "easily" make a great game.
However i know you guys know your job, so i'm really looking forward to it!
Thanks!!
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
Any idea as to what quarter the game will be released or when it will have it's own forum?
RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
ORIGINAL: Commanderski
Any idea as to what quarter the game will be released or when it will have it's own forum?
It's still in alpha AFAIK so no decision on either of your questions yet.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
Back in the days of [i}Western Front[/i] there was a severe experience penalty when an Allied tank unit switched over to the Firefly. Now whether or not the gamer will be allowed to manually swap equipment, is this high penalty still going to exist for WitW?
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
Has the AI's use of the 'carpet defence' (10 unit deep Soviet carpets) been addressed in WitW? A carpet like that in NW France will simply be ridiculous.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
Actually Normandy was the largest amphibious landing in history, second largest invasion in history after Barbarossa
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
Are V1 rockets going to be in the game? 22,000 poeple in England were killed by these weopons and they also tied down allot of fighter planes.
over 100 per day were launched starting 6 days after D-Day.
The V-2 did far more damage and tied up allot more bombers.
This should be reflexed some how in witw.
over 100 per day were launched starting 6 days after D-Day.
The V-2 did far more damage and tied up allot more bombers.
This should be reflexed some how in witw.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
What are they going to carpet with? After Operation Cobra the German divisions were so beaten up that keeping them single-stacked is just going to allow Patton to Hasty-Attack his way across the Rhine.ORIGINAL: redmarkus4
Has the AI's use of the 'carpet defence' (10 unit deep Soviet carpets) been addressed in WitW? A carpet like that in NW France will simply be ridiculous.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
V-weapon sites and factories are political targets that must be attacked by air or captured or you suffer a victory point hit.
As for carpets, I'm not seeing them in the game at this point, but it's still early. There are many differences between the games rules and between the fronts. More changes are also under consideration depending on how things progress in testing.
As for carpets, I'm not seeing them in the game at this point, but it's still early. There are many differences between the games rules and between the fronts. More changes are also under consideration depending on how things progress in testing.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
Plz, show us new pictures, we want to see the progress of this great game! And if it could be done especially new elements of airwar and Normandy. Thanks.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
We're just now getting started with an artist for the map and the interface changes, so pictures will have to wait for several months.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
ORIGINAL: Dili
Plus there are no naval actions that require the detail that AE does.
What? Husky was just the biggest naval invasion ever.
Did it take over a week to land and get ashore [&:]? That is seven turns in AE. Even at D-Day after a week, the Allies had captured the invasion hexes. This is what I was refering to as invasions do not need the level of detail that AE requires.
The issue with the replay in AE is after watching obver 1,000 turns of many, many, actions, of which 99% are air raids or sub/Asw attacks, you are not really learning a lot about your opponent on the 999th turn that you were not aware of by turn 100. I'd much rather the dev time spent on game functionality and UI than adding in a replay ability. Especially since the vast majority of players will be playing against the AI.
RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
This looks to be a very interesting game. I have to comment on how excellent it is to see the frequent and informative comments coming from the game designers. And you guy are a LOT more patient with silliness than I could ever be.
RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
Did it take over a week to land and get ashore ? That is seven turns in AE.
Irrelevant. If it matters for the player a certain detail of ship combat, air combat then daily turns - absent a new concept of constant time advance until a certain level of occurrence then yes.
Actually Normandy was the largest amphibious landing in history
The span of Husky was from mid Southern Sicily to the Eastern Coast much bigger than Normandy. Husky had 2 more divisions than D day.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
ORIGINAL: Joel Billings
Just to clear things up, WitW will still be IGOUGO, however, there are significant changes with a unique air phase for resolution of most types of air missions, as well as special sequencing for amphibious invasions that are ordered in one player turn and resolved during the next player's player turn.
Does this mean that the final War in Europe game will be fully WEGO? Or are you going to keep the IGOUGO as in WitE?
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
WitW and WitE 2.0 will have an IGOUGO ground movement/combat system, and a simultanious execution phase (1 in each player turn) for resolution of the air war. Invasions are ordered during the player's movement phase, but land at the start of the defending player's turn (as do paradrops that are in support of invasions). As for the final War in Europe, assuming we get that far, I would assume it will be just like WitW and WitE but with an even more detailed naval element.
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
What about production? Are you planning to give more freedom to the player on this field?
Sorry about all the questions. I know it is difficult to answer while the game is still being made. Loved WitE and really excited with your "War in X" series. Some screenies would help with the wait [:D]
Sorry about all the questions. I know it is difficult to answer while the game is still being made. Loved WitE and really excited with your "War in X" series. Some screenies would help with the wait [:D]
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RE: Basic info on War in the West 43-45
There are some changes with production, but we are not increasing player control in the WitW 43-45 game. We're starting to get more final artwork into the game so hopefully over the next few months we'll be able to start showing some screens.
All understanding comes after the fact.
-- Soren Kierkegaard
-- Soren Kierkegaard