Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
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Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
I've worked on fighters and this thing doesn't look right. The overall shape is reasonable for a low observables aircraft but it seems too small and lacks the details I would expect even of a prototype. The cockpit looks totally wrong and it doesn't seem to have enough mass. In short, it looks like a fairly shoddy mock-up and the supposed in-flight footage probably a RC model.
And the name even sounds like Queer, which this appears to be [:)]
Edit: I've just seen some more photos and added them to this post and...oh boy...this looks like the prop from a high school stage show.
Cheers, Neilster
And the name even sounds like Queer, which this appears to be [:)]
Edit: I've just seen some more photos and added them to this post and...oh boy...this looks like the prop from a high school stage show.
Cheers, Neilster
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Cheers, Neilster
RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
Check out that clear-view canopy, that ultra smooth low-observables surface finish and the high-tech and super stealthy back of the cockpit instruments [:D]
Cheers, Neilster
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
They probably should have picked a shorter "pilot" as this one doesn't appear to fit. Amazing attention to detail where the lavishly appointed cockpit meets the canopy (which seems not to have a seal). What's that hokey box plugged into the "jet"? The sheepish looks...I could go on... [:)]
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
[:D]Looks like a build it yourself airplane kit. Doesn't anyone shave over there?
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
Go on to youtube and take a good look at all the people living in western countries applauding Iran.
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
I totally agree. Fakey hokum all the way. Hey-that cockpit wire? THAT is the wire in 'fly by wire', idnit? [:D] Keep us posted, Neilster.
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
Where are the latches for the cockpit?
Yes. Please keep us posted.
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
Video from the Iranian news agency. Note after about 4:30 in the segment when they fly this thing off a runway. It looks about the size of a small dog compared to the runway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHNLV7Peww
Also, note the undershots of the a/c. With the exception of the landing gear, totally smooth. Umm...doods? Shouldn't you have some weapons hardpoints under the wings or body for...umm...you know...missiles or something? Either that or (ala F-22) an internal weapons bay? But nope-a perfectly smooth underwing and underbody.
Faker'n fake. [:D][:D][:D]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHNLV7Peww
Also, note the undershots of the a/c. With the exception of the landing gear, totally smooth. Umm...doods? Shouldn't you have some weapons hardpoints under the wings or body for...umm...you know...missiles or something? Either that or (ala F-22) an internal weapons bay? But nope-a perfectly smooth underwing and underbody.
Faker'n fake. [:D][:D][:D]
RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
I built a more authentic stealth aircraft in about 1989. The hypothetical Mig-37 Ferret E. At the time the F-19 Stealth Fighter model was all the rage but people in the know said that if you really wanted to know what the F-19 (or F-117 as it turned out) looked like, look at the Ferret E model.
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
It looks like Firefox...where's Clint Eastwood?
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
ORIGINAL: vonRocko
[:D] Doesn't anyone shave over there?
Didn't you know beards breaks down the face profile allowing the pilot to be more stealthy
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
I think you'll find the Firefox prop was much better built [;)]ORIGINAL: warspite1
It looks like Firefox...where's Clint Eastwood?
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
ORIGINAL: warspite1
It looks like Firefox...where's Clint Eastwood?
He must be on his way as we speak. [:D]
RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
Of course it was since you built it. [:)]ORIGINAL: Neilster
I think you'll find the Firefox prop was much better built [;)]ORIGINAL: warspite1
It looks like Firefox...where's Clint Eastwood?
Cheers, Neilster
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
Err...no...the one(s) in the 1982 movie...ORIGINAL: Orm
Of course it was since you built it. [:)]ORIGINAL: Neilster
I think you'll find the Firefox prop was much better built [;)]ORIGINAL: warspite1
It looks like Firefox...where's Clint Eastwood?
Cheers, Neilster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BmrPrEm7g
It's an adaptation of the Craig Thomas novel and the first half is a pretty good espionage thriller but the flying action lacks all credibility and the John Dykstra special effects that worked so well in Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back didn't with aircraft.
Whoever designed the movie Mig-31 Firefox obviously knew a bit about fighter design and low-observables but the massive intakes and turbo-ramjet powerplants are completely unstealthy. I guess they were included to explain the supposed hypersonic performance of the aircraft.
BTW, the Ferret E I built looked better than the one above. I was really into aircraft modelling in those days. That design was well researched in that rather than being a fighter, the Mig-37 was a hypothetical electronic warfare and stealthy ground attack aircraft with internal (stealth) weapons carriage. It was assumed the Soviets would need to use faceting as they didn't have the computer power to design a stealth aircraft with curved surfaces. The hypothetical F-19 was well researched as well and it was decided that an American design would use these. They didn't realise how long the F-117 had been flying for and as a result it turned out to use faceting.
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
They've just installed one of these childrens' rides in my local supermarket. Only 20p a go.
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
Why is the "pilot" wearing a helmet? Is he about to actually go flying? No. Pilots put their helmet on after they are strapped into the seat on real missions. And how bad is that canopy? [:'(]
Cheers, Neilster
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
ORIGINAL: redcoat
They've just installed one of these childrens' rides in my local supermarket. Only 20p a go.
Probably goes higher, faster and further as well.
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
Is that an analogue dial in the third picture? I love the retro feeling that they've given this aircraft. Not a MFD screen anywhere, make those pilots work out what's going on in their aircraft [:D] And think of the weight savings gained by making this out of plastic, and it's not as though Iran are short of oil to make plastics so that's a definite win. I'm not sure how they're planning to stop it though, there don't appear to be any hydraulic pipes down the undercarriage legs. Unless they use the canopy as a brake chute.
Would there me some sort of reason that all the markings etc are in English rather than Persian?
Would there me some sort of reason that all the markings etc are in English rather than Persian?
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RE: Iranian "fighter" Qaher F313...looks fake
ORIGINAL: Dixie
Would there me some sort of reason that all the markings etc are in English rather than Persian?
Yeah, what's up with that? English is satans' language.[:'(]