I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
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I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
I mean it ! I need such a game. They are none on the market.
The game would be:
- grand strategy
- time frame: from 2015
- hex or provinces based
- game would cover politics, diplomacy, economics, geo-politics, propaganda (e.g. media), secret ops (CIA, NSA, MI5, etc.), and of course military, including non conventional warfare like bacteria, uranium, weather weapons etc.
- "secret" groups like bilderberg, trilateral, etc. would be modeled.
The ww3 scenario would be like this: Nato + Israel to declare war to Iran. Coalition forms with Syria, Pakistan (etc.) against Nato.
Possibility for Russia and/or China to join "axis of evil". Possible entry of Venezuela and North Korea into the Axis "of evil" tpo bring war in south/central america and Asia.
War could spread to Africa with African states divided between Nato and "Axis of Evil".
Etc.
Global conflict with nuclear and other non conventional weapons (bacterias, weather, haarp, etc,).
Guerrilla and "mujahideens" troops in Afghanistan, Africa, south america, etc.
Possible VP could be (among many others) to destroy (or protect) oil fields in middle east, controlling natural resources in Africa, bombing Tokyo, etc.
Bombing (or protect) Israel for axis (for Nato),
Sending missiles abroad for N. Korea and damaging Japan, S. Korea, Oceania, etc.
Would be fun (to play of course, not in real!)
Who will developp this game ?
The game would be:
- grand strategy
- time frame: from 2015
- hex or provinces based
- game would cover politics, diplomacy, economics, geo-politics, propaganda (e.g. media), secret ops (CIA, NSA, MI5, etc.), and of course military, including non conventional warfare like bacteria, uranium, weather weapons etc.
- "secret" groups like bilderberg, trilateral, etc. would be modeled.
The ww3 scenario would be like this: Nato + Israel to declare war to Iran. Coalition forms with Syria, Pakistan (etc.) against Nato.
Possibility for Russia and/or China to join "axis of evil". Possible entry of Venezuela and North Korea into the Axis "of evil" tpo bring war in south/central america and Asia.
War could spread to Africa with African states divided between Nato and "Axis of Evil".
Etc.
Global conflict with nuclear and other non conventional weapons (bacterias, weather, haarp, etc,).
Guerrilla and "mujahideens" troops in Afghanistan, Africa, south america, etc.
Possible VP could be (among many others) to destroy (or protect) oil fields in middle east, controlling natural resources in Africa, bombing Tokyo, etc.
Bombing (or protect) Israel for axis (for Nato),
Sending missiles abroad for N. Korea and damaging Japan, S. Korea, Oceania, etc.
Would be fun (to play of course, not in real!)
Who will developp this game ?
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
I forgot the most important:
TURN-BASED !
TURN-BASED !
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
Norm Koger's Operational Art of war has a WWIII scenario, but lacks the broad scope your looking for. But it does cover options for NBC and some gurrilla and special opps units. the map runs from east coast USA all the way around to the west coast USA and areas inbetween, Korea, Persian Gulf, the Med. Its a good game if u want something big now. its in the matrix store. Happy Hunting, and Happy New Year. Oh, you also have options for the allies you activate. Patton
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
Yes but TOAW is not a grand strategy game and lacks economic, diplomaatic and politic aspects.
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
Hearts of iron are doing something along those lines..I'm not keen on the engine being realtime though and I see you express turn based only.
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
Global conflict with nuclear and other non conventional weapons (bacterias, weather, haarp, etc,).
Under such a scenario, a major part of the combat would be done by computer hacking. We then get into debates over exactly how much damage could/would be done by such methods: we have an idea of the vulnerabilities, but not much knowledge of the counter-measures that would then be revealed.
An interesting setup, though. There would have to be graduations of allegiances, such as the USA during the summer of 1941, when we were shipping weapons to Britain and declaring U-boat-free zones in the Western Atlantic but had not yet fully declared war or mobilized.
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: wodin
Hearts of iron are doing something along those lines..I'm not keen on the engine being realtime though and I see you express turn based only.
Yeah your best bet is to wait until PAradox finishes that game Sorry
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
i second this but would say any time frame from 1955 to current
heck one great game already exists that has never been moved to the PC
GDW's the third world war series it had a great system and covers all of europe and the middle east
heck one great game already exists that has never been moved to the PC
GDW's the third world war series it had a great system and covers all of europe and the middle east
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: heyhellowhatsnew
ORIGINAL: wodin
Hearts of iron are doing something along those lines..I'm not keen on the engine being realtime though and I see you express turn based only.
Yeah your best bet is to wait until PAradox finishes that game Sorry
which knowing Paradox will be patch 1.07 about 18- 20 months after release lol dont get me wrong i love Paradox but this is a true statement
this game does look cool and has a ton of info on the paradox forums
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: bean5671
ORIGINAL: heyhellowhatsnew
ORIGINAL: wodin
Hearts of iron are doing something along those lines..I'm not keen on the engine being realtime though and I see you express turn based only.
Yeah your best bet is to wait until PAradox finishes that game Sorry
which knowing Paradox will be patch 1.07 about 18- 20 months after release lol dont get me wrong i love Paradox but this is a true statement
this game does look cool and has a ton of info on the paradox forums
Or just sell an expansion with bug fixes.
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: heyhellowhatsnew
ORIGINAL: wodin
Hearts of iron are doing something along those lines..I'm not keen on the engine being realtime though and I see you express turn based only.
Yeah your best bet is to wait until Paradox finishes that game Sorry
I haven't heard about it ... the only one WW3 paradox WW3 game that I know is currently being developed is about cold war which is different (and of course it's real time). It covers 1946-1991.
I even don't mention "Supreme Ruler 2012" which is totally unplayable because of the endless micromanagement.
I really don't understand why nobody developed such a realistic WW3 game starting in 2015... I'm sure it would be very successful.
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
To be honest, I think a WW3 game in 2015 would have only 4 turns that last a month. Think of all the nuclear warfare
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
This isnt quite what you specified,...but it has some of the more important elements you listed.
http://stormfrontlinenation.com/en/home
I own it , but havent played it enough to give a fair review.
http://stormfrontlinenation.com/en/home
I own it , but havent played it enough to give a fair review.
RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR
This isnt quite what you specified,...but it has some of the more important elements you listed.
http://stormfrontlinenation.com/en/home
I own it , but havent played it enough to give a fair review.
I'd never heard of this one before and as it is currently being sold for the princely sum of £1.39 on Gamersgate I've now just bought it, thanks for the heads up.
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: heyhellowhatsnew
To be honest, I think a WW3 game in 2015 would have only 4 turns that last a month. Think of all the nuclear warfare
Well, not sure. We are at war since 2001 ... and no nukes yet.
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: Wolfe
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This isnt quite what you specified,...but it has some of the more important elements you listed.
http://stormfrontlinenation.com/en/home
I own it , but havent played it enough to give a fair review.
I'd never heard of this one before and as it is currently being sold for the princely sum of £1.39 on Gamersgate I've now just bought it, thanks for the heads up.
Yes, this is interesting. But it seems to be limited to Europe ?
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: nukkxx
ORIGINAL: heyhellowhatsnew
To be honest, I think a WW3 game in 2015 would have only 4 turns that last a month. Think of all the nuclear warfare
Well, not sure. We are at war since 2001 ... and no nukes yet.
It's an unconventional war though, not a world war.
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RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
ORIGINAL: nukkxx
ORIGINAL: Wolfe
ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR
This isnt quite what you specified,...but it has some of the more important elements you listed.
http://stormfrontlinenation.com/en/home
I own it , but havent played it enough to give a fair review.
I'd never heard of this one before and as it is currently being sold for the princely sum of £1.39 on Gamersgate I've now just bought it, thanks for the heads up.
Yes, this is interesting. But it seems to be limited to Europe ?
I live in the US and I have it on steam.
RE: I'm craving a realistic WW3 grand strategy game
I think nukkxx meant the map, which to confirm is Europe, North Africa and Middle East.
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