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Eddie - most of the base have two Naval Construction there plus what the BFs have.
Tabiteuea has 111 Engineers and 36 Engineer Vehicles.
Nonouti has 78 Engineers and 36 Engineer Vehicles.
Abemama has 57 Engineers and 14 Engineer Vehicles.
Tarawa has 86 Engineers and 30 Engineer Vehicles, but they are not full strength.


Okie doke... Boy , your opponent has to be feeling a kick in the pants.

Putting on my master of the obvious cap , getting a foothold in CentPac this early should be a real thorn for Japan as it upsets the whole plan for digging in defensively.



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Eddie - I hope to move into the Marshall through the rest of 42 with a possibility to go back for the Luganville area, if it remains not too built up.
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Nice job, if you can stop the Japanese from "setting" then you can start to build momentum and roll him...

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Nice job, if you can stop the Japanese from "setting" then you can start to build momentum and roll him...

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There is still the little problem of preventing him from taking the rest of Oz, and then trying to take it back. He has a little too much there to treat it as an island to be cut off and turned into a POW camp.[;)]
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Looks pretty positive and would REALLY like to read what he thinks of all this!
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As an Australian I hate to say this but the place isn't that relevant except as a place to base operations into the DEI / Philipines from. If you can clean out the CENTPAC without loosing a major CV battle you have a nice forward base for subsand raiders while sitting astride a fair bit of the resupply route which forces him to attack your prepared positions, rather than you attack his...

Loose your CV cover though and it could be quite messy...

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Nice job, if you can stop the Japanese from "setting" then you can start to build momentum and roll him...

Cheers

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There is still the little problem of preventing him from taking the rest of Oz, and then trying to take it back. He has a little too much there to treat it as an island to be cut off and turned into a POW camp.[;)]
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Yeah, jrcar, I was thinking mostly of the VPs the Japanese would get for Sydney and Melbourne. And eliminating Austalia would make the Centpac/Northern routes fairly predictable. A Burma offensive is possible but it takes a long time to build up the strength needed.
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I have 7 divisions in southern Australia and they would retreat into those two main bases. Melbourne just reached Forts 5 and has 200k supply along with lots of engineers. Sydney has started to work on level 7 Forts and has 400k supply. They could hold out for significant time. A while agao we discussed him already triggering the Emergency Reinforcements and I get the airframes and devices now, but the troops are headed back to Cape Town and Aden. If he goes further south again, I can deploy them.
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I think it is TOO late for him to realistically take all of Australia. I did it by landing WAY south in late-March so I got Sydney almost immediately.
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I have 7 divisions in southern Australia and they would retreat into those two main bases. Melbourne just reached Forts 5 and has 200k supply along with lots of engineers. Sydney has started to work on level 7 Forts and has 400k supply. They could hold out for significant time. A while agao we discussed him already triggering the Emergency Reinforcements and I get the airframes and devices now, but the troops are headed back to Cape Town and Aden. If he goes further south again, I can deploy them.
Doh! [Homer headslap here]
I forgot about the accidental trigger and backtrack. Reading so many AARs I lose track!
I agree with John 3rd - if he hasn't crossed the line and pushed you into corners by now, he will not be able to succeed, even with your normal reinforcements.
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I have not played this particular scenario but the fact that ny59giants is blitzkrieging the Gilberts and threatens the Marshall's I suspect will upset the IJ ant hill .. it will be interesting if the game sets a limit on radio traffic messages or if the algorithum simply reports some random percentage/place of activity because my next thought is the IJ will start a huge redeployment campaign moving stuff around .. [8D]

This is still '42 .. and I am assuming the Allied 4E stuff is not too far off the Scenario #1 OOB? If so, soon .. very soon, 4E's will be interdicting Truk ..[;)]

Wat to go NY59Giants for pushing the big bowl of jelly reverberating throughout the empire!
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August 16, 17, 18 :
Tarawa falls!![:D]
Keeping CVs stationary for too long can cost you!?! [:@][:@]

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft;

Subs:
16th & 17th - [>:]
18th - [X(][X(]
I-26 is hit once by DC off Tabiteuea
Sub attack near Nonouti at 137,133

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Torpedo hits 1 13-17(9)-0-0
CA Minneapolis
CL St. Louis
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Preston
DD Smith
DD Mahan

SS I-21 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Lexington


I-28 if 8 hexes west of Palmrya and sink an APD with t TT hits.
Sub attack near Nonouti at 137,133

Japanese Ships
SS I-21, hits 1

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 1 22-19(13)-0-0
CA Vincennes
CL Hobart
CLAA San Juan
DD Lardner
DD Hull
DD Dewey
DD Tucker

SS I-21 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Yorktown

I reply to Nick with the need to give the captain of I-21 a promotion and 30 days shore leave. I've had this lesson before and I was reminded again, "don't allow your CVs to be stationary." [:-] Both will easily make Pearl, unless I run over another sub. [:D]

I-20 is hit twice by an ASW TF off Melbourne

CVs: Mine are still in Gilberts, that includes 2 Brit CVs and CVL Hermes.


India/Burma:[>:][>:]
This theater has been quite for too long, but it will become very active as soon as the Monsoon season ends in two months. Right now, I have 2 airgroups (25 planes each) at Bombay training up P-38E with a third is finishing filling out with the new P-38F (all part of the 51st FG). Meanwhile, over at Delhi the three Chinese Corp continue to suck up all the Chinese Rifle squads (I've turn off these replacement for troops in China for the last few weeks) and their combined AV is now at 1574.

China: -
Yenan - Up to 23 Sally hit the AF daily

the daily ground bb attacks continue at 85, 43 (2 hexes due west of Loyang on trail)

Sian -
16th - 23 Oscar with 12 Ann = 1s, 3r; 7 Oscar & 6 Sonia = 2b, 4r;
17th - 22 Oscars with 12 Ann = 1s, 1r; 8 Oscar & 6 Sonia = 4r;

Wenchow -
16th - 20 Lily = 3b, 2s, 13r;
17th - 7 Sally & 5 Lily = 1b, 7r; 20 Lily = 1b, 1s, 5r;
Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58) on 17th

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73187 troops, 606 guns, 132 vehicles, Assault Value = 2272

Defending force 13632 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 408

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 1559

Allied adjusted defense: 751

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2075 casualties reported
Squads: 54 destroyed, 128 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1242 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
110th Division
35th Division
27th Division
15th Division
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
36th Division

Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
25th Group Army

18th - 15 Sally & 24 Lily vs troops = 0 c;

Ichang -
18th - 30 Oscar, 12 Ann, 6 Sonia = 3b, 4s, 7r;

Australia:
Melbourne -
16th - 27(9) Zero sweep in to find 25 P-39s & 25(1) P-40s; a second group of 36(7) Zero sweep in to find 20(1) P-39s & 18(1) P-40s; total losses for the day are 26 Zeros (20 in A2A and 6 to ops) while I lose 6 planes and only 1 pilot. [:D][:D]

Adelaide -
16th - 42 Tojo sweep an empty sky;

South Pacific:
Noumea -
18th - 31 Zero on CAP vs 87 17E = 4 Nells destroyed, 22b, 5s, 76r; 18 more B-17s hit the AF in three small strikes and don't cause any more damage

Vava'u - 10 small xAKLs and 3 small TKs are loading here and then will head for Gilberts via Canton Island

Central Pacific:
Tarawa -
16th - 17 Martlet II, 20 F4F-3 Wildcat, 204 SBD-3 Dauntless, 85 TBF-1 Avenger = 606c;
18th - 8(1) Zero are on LRCAP as 16(1) Martlet II, 31 F4F-3 Wildcat, 93 F4F-4 Wildcat, and 136 SBD-3 Dauntless = 243c;
Ground combat at Tarawa (136,128) on 18th

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 6156 troops, 101 guns, 70 vehicles, Assault Value = 145

Defending force 3590 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Allied adjusted assault: 26

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 26 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tarawa !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1391 casualties reported
Squads: 48 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 22 (18 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Marine/A Division
1st Marine/B Division
9th Port Maint Engineer Battalion
1st Marine Defense Battalion
15th Base Group
13th US Naval Construction Battalion
12th MAG
14th US Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
42nd Naval Guard Unit
43rd Naval Guard Unit
41st Naval Guard Unit
1st JNAF Coy
26th JNAF AF Unit

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41st Naval Guard Unit Wiped Out at Tarawa by attrition!!!

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42nd Naval Guard Unit Wiped Out at Tarawa by attrition!!!

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43rd Naval Guard Unit Wiped Out at Tarawa by attrition!!!

Gilberts -
Tarawa - 1921 supply, 140 AV, Port damage at 55, 45 P-39s. A Minelaying TF with 480 mines will lay them in the next day or two (I expect a BB TF and maybe KB to hit here once my CVs leave). The transports with supplies are ordered up from off Tabiteuea. My CVs will stay for another two or max three days and then head for Pearl. I want the xAPs to finish unloading and then leave some xAKs with only supplies to remain.

Abemama - 8655 supply, AF 1(2) 52%, 12 PBY-5A, 16 Kittyhawks

Nonouti - 10407 supply, AF 2(2) 19% (transports with an Air HQ is three days out)

Tabiteuea - 14416 supply, AF 2(3) 76%, 73 fighters, 37 SBDs

Follow up forces to maximize the bases here are gathering. IMO, it will be through Sept for me to expand the bases enough to move forward. Troops already prepping for Makin. An F-4 recon will be shifted up here to check out what is around me.

North Pacific:
Landings on 16th at Attu and falls to Japan on 17th

Notes:
A steady flow of air units and troops should be headed for the Gilberts over the next month as I get ready to move into the Marshalls. The big question will be how does Nick respond to this new threat in a few days once he sees my CVs leave. I have 135 fighters in the Gilberts with 300 in South Pacific that can transfer in via Canton in a few days. Another Army fighter group and two more F4F are headed for Canton. Right now I need to expand bases and get more Aviation Support there. I have the bombers nearby training.

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If he comes crashing in with the KB will you seek battle or withdraw? Very curious to see your CV setup in action!
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Crackerace - I have 9 BSs of B-17Es at Suva (108 planes). At Pearl, I have a BG (48 planes) filling out with B-17Fs (since I only get two months worth, this group may not see action till late Sept) and another with B-24s (needs another 15 planes) that will go to the Gilberts once Tabiteuea is built up to AF 5. I get another B-24 BG with 32 of 48 planes in 4 days in USA.
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Yeah, jrcar, I was thinking mostly of the VPs the Japanese would get for Sydney and Melbourne. And eliminating Austalia would make the Centpac/Northern routes fairly predictable. A Burma offensive is possible but it takes a long time to build up the strength needed.


I like this idea of activity in the theater even if the attack is only a threat or feint it may keep him honest.

Do you know the rough numbers he has in Northern Burma bases Micheal?



On another note praise the lord for USN damage control. [:)] Just for reference what are your normal escort numbers in the CVTFs?

While you're limping home maybe the use of DBs and TBs on the CVs using low naval search /ASW in combination with a safe route will avoid further attacks?


Again, good work! [:)]
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[Crackaces] - I have 9 BSs of B-17Es at Suva (108 planes). At Pearl, I have a BG (48 planes) filling out with B-17Fs (since I only get two months worth, this group may not see action till late Sept) and another with B-24s (needs another 15 planes) that will go to the Gilberts once Tabiteuea is built up to AF 5. I get another B-24 BG with 32 of 48 planes in 4 days in USA.

It will be very interesting to watch the deployment of aircraft base support and how things unfold. I understand this scenario is quite different in that regard. But, it looks like the forces are availiable to rain hell on earth [8D]. I suspect the IJ will start reacting, and making decisions. Each decision provides the opportunity to be a bad one. [;)]

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Double posting. The next one is more important.
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A nice addition to the fleet last turn. She is not a New Jersey Class BB, but she will help out tremendously. Washington arrives in 7 days to give me three modern BBs. Time to find base to bombarded to raise the low night experience level before she gets into a night time surface combat. Multiple large AEs have been moved forward just for the 'big boys.' [:D]

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You already know this NY59Giants but just to make conversation in the thread ... Those bases in the Marshall's that have shore batteries make great targets for the modern BB's .. unlike the prewar bemouths ....just in case the Betty's come calling they can at full speed make it back to the safety of aircover and get the boys mixing it up while reducing the fort units along with runways and ports .. I got a hefty experince bonus in my current game blasting these targets as well as lot's of grumbling in the email .. [8D]
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You already know this NY59Giants but just to make conversation in the thread ... Those bases in the Marshall's that have shore batteries make great targets for the modern BB's .. unlike the prewar bemouths ....just in case the Betty's come calling they can at full speed make it back to the safety of aircover and get the boys mixing it up while reducing the fort units along with runways and ports .. I got a hefty experince bonus in my current game blasting these targets as well as lot's of grumbling in the email .. [8D]

My plans from the beginning was to use my modern fast BBs (speed 27 or better), the Porter Class DDs (most guns of the older DDs), the Cleveland Class CLs (always been a "Big Bad Boise" fanboy [:D]), and the Fletcher Class DDs in SC TF hunter/killer groups. I have to find the best size for a TF (thinking 2 BBs with 6 to 8 DDs OR 2 to 4 Cleveland CLs with 6 to 8 DDs). I just realized I need to get their experience levels up before I can do this and doing what you did is a great way. I think after I build up the Gilberts in the next few months, it will safe to put some support ships (AE or AKE) at Tabiteuea and start their "training." [;)] Two "training" TFs should be enough as I can rotate ships in and out. Right now, two of the three large AEs are in the Canton/Christmas Island area. I will convert some of the Harriman xAKs to AKEs for the non-BBs ships.

Edit - Logistics is not a problem for me as I have just gone over 2 million supply at Pearl. [X(] Fuel is only at 800k.
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