ORIGINAL: Kayoz
Erik already addresses this - he negotiated with Steam and declined to enter into a contract with them.
I'd be interested in seeing the source of this info. Did Erik post about it somewhere on the forums?
ORIGINAL: Kayoz
Erik already addresses this - he negotiated with Steam and declined to enter into a contract with them.
It may not have been beneficial to enter a contract with them previously, but it may be a good idea now... Just because it wasn't a good idea at the time doesn't mean it is off the board forever.ORIGINAL: Kayoz
Sadly, use of social media as a marketing tool is something that Matrix hasn't gotten to grips with. 931 likes for their Facebook page is a clue as to how well they're using it.ORIGINAL: bryanhbell
I found out about Distant Worlds when another player suggested it on reddit. I've done my best to give this game further exposure there by creating a subreddit for the game
Erik already addresses this - he negotiated with Steam and declined to enter into a contract with them. Steam being good or bad for marketing is irrelevant. Business with Steam wouldn't benefit Matrix and Code Force, so they didn't sign on the dotted line. As Steam contracts are confidential, anyone praising the benefits of Steam is expressing an opinion without any facts to support their assertion.ORIGINAL: RaffleSnaffle
...steam is good about having sales and makes it simple to recommend this game on steam to all of the people I have as friends on there as well.
ORIGINAL: bryanhbell
ORIGINAL: Kayoz
Erik already addresses this - he negotiated with Steam and declined to enter into a contract with them.
I'd be interested in seeing the source of this info. Did Erik post about it somewhere on the forums?
All Steam contracts are confidential. Steam/Valve does not reveal any details of their division of monies, or sales figures.ORIGINAL: slovenian89
And a publisher spreading word about Steam helping sales being confidential is silly, them spreading word about that will help Steam get more business!
ORIGINAL: Kayoz
All Steam contracts are confidential. Steam/Valve does not reveal any details of their division of monies, or sales figures.
PI's comments are anecdotal and not evidence. Their comments are as reliable as any comment you might see endorsing the effectiveness of "herbal Viagra", "anti-ageing creams" or weight loss products. If you trust them, then ... well, I know some people who do affiliate marketing and have a whole list of products they'd love to sell you.
I got a bunch of sources of official statements from CEOs of various publishers regarding sales figures on Steam and how they had a significant boost in revenue, but I can't post links... Still haven't seen anything bad about releasing on Steam, unless only the bad figures are "confidential".ORIGINAL: bryanhbell
ORIGINAL: Kayoz
All Steam contracts are confidential. Steam/Valve does not reveal any details of their division of monies, or sales figures.
PI's comments are anecdotal and not evidence. Their comments are as reliable as any comment you might see endorsing the effectiveness of "herbal Viagra", "anti-ageing creams" or weight loss products. If you trust them, then ... well, I know some people who do affiliate marketing and have a whole list of products they'd love to sell you.
I understand you may hold some strong views on this subject, but can you perhaps tone it down a bit? No need to insult other posters.
I don't think the context of this forum is one in which we're expected to back up any statements we make with ironclad arguments supported by studies and statistics. I think it's understood here without calling it out specifically that we're just discussing our opinions about Matrix Games' marketing strategies.
ORIGINAL: Velihopea
I know Codeforce has declined steam. Well, people make mistakes an dcodeforce is still just 1 person as far as I know. I hope that DW does well financially. Hopefully DW2 will be distributed so that the production team of DW3 will have at least 5 people working on it.
If you don't have any facts or figures, how can you discuss an opinion; much less a business one?ORIGINAL: bryanhbell
I don't think the context of this forum is one in which we're expected to back up any statements we make with ironclad arguments supported by studies and statistics. I think it's understood here without calling it out specifically that we're just discussing our opinions about Matrix Games' marketing strategies.
ORIGINAL: jpwrunyan
I heard that matrix and steam are competitors. I got this information from my buttocks so I know the source is reliable.
ORIGINAL: Satosky
I have no problems with the game being sold exclusively by Matrix. The main problem is the lack of advertisement I believe as the game suffers from being relatively unknown compared to most other 4X games. There are plenty of ways to advertise this game without spending money with youtube and word of mouth being perfect examples.
gangnam style [:D]ORIGINAL: Darkspire
Youtube Codeforce needs to update its tags on the videos