Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
the fun will start when his special Asange SA unit arrives, all blonde all with a gruel haircut
RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 10th 1942, turn 7
In the good socialist tradition of self criticis,m i decided to sit together with my commanders. And there was plenty of criticism coming from them. Some of them accused me of having a 'Decisive Campaigns 1 WtP' mindset, other called me lazy and other challenged my reading comprehension.
After those men left i sat down, looked at the front maps and wrote down what went wrong to this day:
Commanders: I didn't change a single one. I believed somehow that changing a commander will be paid in prestige and not in PP. All those turns i trained front commanders under the command of an army General with an organization level of 16!
Cards: Instead of buying fighters i could have built several fortresses in critical points. that my have been an option to avoid the huge pocket.
Discipline: Some attacks could have been avoided, saving the lifes of several hundreds men, several tanks and tens of planes.
In the good socialist tradition of self criticis,m i decided to sit together with my commanders. And there was plenty of criticism coming from them. Some of them accused me of having a 'Decisive Campaigns 1 WtP' mindset, other called me lazy and other challenged my reading comprehension.
After those men left i sat down, looked at the front maps and wrote down what went wrong to this day:
Commanders: I didn't change a single one. I believed somehow that changing a commander will be paid in prestige and not in PP. All those turns i trained front commanders under the command of an army General with an organization level of 16!
Cards: Instead of buying fighters i could have built several fortresses in critical points. that my have been an option to avoid the huge pocket.
Discipline: Some attacks could have been avoided, saving the lifes of several hundreds men, several tanks and tens of planes.
RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 10th 1942, turn 7
Bad weather striked for the first time this turn. Bad luck for us defenders. Nevertheless the Germans attacked across the Don! ...and succeeded. Several regiments of the Grossdeutschland Division, soon to be called NVA Division, crossed the Don.
We spent most of our time to pull further back and to sack two commanders. With more capable commanders we counterattacked the german spearhead and pushed them back over the Don. After some shelling we did two other attacks, all in all three attacks, two of them successfull. Not too bad.
Bad weather striked for the first time this turn. Bad luck for us defenders. Nevertheless the Germans attacked across the Don! ...and succeeded. Several regiments of the Grossdeutschland Division, soon to be called NVA Division, crossed the Don.
We spent most of our time to pull further back and to sack two commanders. With more capable commanders we counterattacked the german spearhead and pushed them back over the Don. After some shelling we did two other attacks, all in all three attacks, two of them successfull. Not too bad.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 10th 1942, turn 7
No maps this turn as i have to do some manual reading.
No maps this turn as i have to do some manual reading.
RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
Kudos on successful counterattacks.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
[s]How do you view the turn replay?[/s]
Never mind i found the button
Also my losses are very much heavier than yours even if i dont have any big pockets yet,
Never mind i found the button
Also my losses are very much heavier than yours even if i dont have any big pockets yet,
RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
i made so many mistakes i think i lost this one already. i just started another Case Blue Short pbem and was able to counterattack some of the german units. i changed commanders and had not one penalty on the first turn. maybe against Olivier i was a little unlucky so far weather wise and penalty wise. Like Krupp i changed the idiot commanding Bryansk Front. i just wonder what a uncapable army commander does to the troops? is he the one that inflicts those organizational penalties to his subcommanders?
also my air force did not suffer any penalty this turn. besides my mistakes i may have been a little unlucky so far. but as this is part of me learning to beat Olivier once more i will stick to the bitter end.
also my air force did not suffer any penalty this turn. besides my mistakes i may have been a little unlucky so far. but as this is part of me learning to beat Olivier once more i will stick to the bitter end.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
Also my losses are very much heavier than yours even if i dont have any big pockets yet,
Because you made a lot of counterattacks, our 2nd turn losses were like the 4-5 turn of this game, moreover your C&C penalty I believe has not been like Keunert one, the 2nd turn is very important for the Soviet and you have been able to move almost all your units.
Anyhow you are doing a great defence, I really enjoy our game [:)]
i made so many mistakes i think i lost this one already.
For prestige points rule?
also my air force did not suffer any penalty this turn. besides my mistakes i may have been a little unlucky so far. but as this is part of me learning to beat Olivier once more i will stick to the bitter end.
I think that you have been a bit unlucky too, maybe was not possible to avoid some pocket.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
i spent prestige points twice to buy fighters that i instantly lost in two airraids. instead i should have changed commanders and build fortifications.
i still try to figure out if a corps commander with low organization harms the armies under his command with organizational penalties, or if the low organization only
effects the cards he is able to play.
i still try to figure out if a corps commander with low organization harms the armies under his command with organizational penalties, or if the low organization only
effects the cards he is able to play.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
You mean Political Points.
No it is important for 9.8 Soviet "out of depth rule" as well, as Soviet player I would try to change my poor leaders if any available asap (luck factor involved)
i still try to figure out if a corps commander with low organization harms the armies under his command with organizational penalties, or if the low organization only
effects the cards he is able to play.
No it is important for 9.8 Soviet "out of depth rule" as well, as Soviet player I would try to change my poor leaders if any available asap (luck factor involved)
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 12th 1942, turn 8
After some quality time with the manual I regain control of the battlefield and am my old unbeatable self again. Nevertheless we order more retreats and slowly fall back into the Hinterland.
Soviet Troops: 411'400 (-107'000)
Axis Troops: 760'700 (-9'000)
Our high losses are even less alarming than the non existant axis casualties.
Romanian armored units and german Landsers crossed the Don again and annihilated all defenders. The neighbouring troops of the 5th TA were attacked by air, bombardment and command&control penalties. The few units able to conduct a counterattack were pulled back. In other words: the Don line is no more. The german bridgehead will be expanded fast.
Voronesh will soon fall. There is no way i will be able to hold it until July 28. My prestige level is now at 10. The fall of Voronesh will be reality within two or three turns at maximum.
After some quality time with the manual I regain control of the battlefield and am my old unbeatable self again. Nevertheless we order more retreats and slowly fall back into the Hinterland.
Soviet Troops: 411'400 (-107'000)
Axis Troops: 760'700 (-9'000)
Our high losses are even less alarming than the non existant axis casualties.
Romanian armored units and german Landsers crossed the Don again and annihilated all defenders. The neighbouring troops of the 5th TA were attacked by air, bombardment and command&control penalties. The few units able to conduct a counterattack were pulled back. In other words: the Don line is no more. The german bridgehead will be expanded fast.
Voronesh will soon fall. There is no way i will be able to hold it until July 28. My prestige level is now at 10. The fall of Voronesh will be reality within two or three turns at maximum.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 12th 1942, turn 8
With our airforce resting and refitting the Luftwaffe reigns the skies. This hurts mostly our tank units. Our losses are very high, while german tank losses are getting less and less.
With our airforce resting and refitting the Luftwaffe reigns the skies. This hurts mostly our tank units. Our losses are very high, while german tank losses are getting less and less.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 12th 1942, turn 8
Northern Front
Romanian units breach the Don line. What a shame! 11th Panzer threatens to cut off a few more units. Nothing serious compared with the Pocket of Shame further south. This pocket got cleared this turn, killing another 15'000 of our men.
Rest in peace comrades...
This part of the front and another part in the south have lot's of units under Corps command instead of army command. as i understand it, those units will not benefit from any combat bonus. i created an army HQ here... hopefully Olivier doesn't make me look any blöder and overruns it next turn. the idea is to put all units into army HQ, no more units under direct corps command.
Northern Front
Romanian units breach the Don line. What a shame! 11th Panzer threatens to cut off a few more units. Nothing serious compared with the Pocket of Shame further south. This pocket got cleared this turn, killing another 15'000 of our men.
Rest in peace comrades...
This part of the front and another part in the south have lot's of units under Corps command instead of army command. as i understand it, those units will not benefit from any combat bonus. i created an army HQ here... hopefully Olivier doesn't make me look any blöder and overruns it next turn. the idea is to put all units into army HQ, no more units under direct corps command.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 12th 1942, turn 8
Central Front
The center still mourns the 40'000 fallen comrades. Even with our siberian reinforcements we have not enough troops to fight here. everybody pulls back. We spend here a lot of PP and energy to reorganize the chaos that occured after the breakdown of the center. from this turn on most of our troops are either back within command range of their HQ or they are now part of another HQ.
Central Front
The center still mourns the 40'000 fallen comrades. Even with our siberian reinforcements we have not enough troops to fight here. everybody pulls back. We spend here a lot of PP and energy to reorganize the chaos that occured after the breakdown of the center. from this turn on most of our troops are either back within command range of their HQ or they are now part of another HQ.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 12th 1942, turn 8
The Vikings are strong and sail up the Donetzk causing us trouble. A newly arrived guard inf. division is deployed at Morowsky and marches to man a new line behind the Bystrala. A Partizan unit is doing it's railroad dance at Artemovsk.
The Vikings are strong and sail up the Donetzk causing us trouble. A newly arrived guard inf. division is deployed at Morowsky and marches to man a new line behind the Bystrala. A Partizan unit is doing it's railroad dance at Artemovsk.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 12th 1942, turn 8
South Front
Our new found confidence in soviet arms lead to a new strategy here: rather die fighting than die sitting... We did a five sided attack on two units of the 298th Infanterie div. with some artillery support. But to no avail. The attacking units suffered badly.
Another four sided attack was conducted on regiments of the 24th Inf Div with the same depressing result.
South Front
Our new found confidence in soviet arms lead to a new strategy here: rather die fighting than die sitting... We did a five sided attack on two units of the 298th Infanterie div. with some artillery support. But to no avail. The attacking units suffered badly.
Another four sided attack was conducted on regiments of the 24th Inf Div with the same depressing result.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
July 12th 1942, turn 8
While the land war is going down the drain we amuse Stalin with good news from the navy, worlds best navy as he calls them. Our recon shows that Manstein almost completely left the Krim. We cannot resist and load some boats with units to do a real or maybe just a fake landing at the Krims bottleneck. with our ships on the sea, the Krim would be cut off from supply if we successfully land here.
on the other hand there is not much to gain here. we do not have the means to deploy enough troops to push the romanians out of the crimea.
While the land war is going down the drain we amuse Stalin with good news from the navy, worlds best navy as he calls them. Our recon shows that Manstein almost completely left the Krim. We cannot resist and load some boats with units to do a real or maybe just a fake landing at the Krims bottleneck. with our ships on the sea, the Krim would be cut off from supply if we successfully land here.
on the other hand there is not much to gain here. we do not have the means to deploy enough troops to push the romanians out of the crimea.
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
ORIGINAL: Keunert
July 12th 1942, turn 8
South Front
Our new found confidence in soviet arms lead to a new strategy here: rather die fighting than die sitting... We did a five sided attack on two units of the 298th Infanterie div. with some artillery support. But to no avail. The attacking units suffered badly.
Another four sided attack was conducted on regiments of the 24th Inf Div with the same depressing result.
When you do multisided attacks like that try to make sure they are all the same HQ (you can easily spot it with the HQ color banner on the left edge of the counters).
That would have probably helped you greatly. If you don't attack with a single HQ then you're losing valuable encirclement bonues.
Keep up the good fight!
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no Olivier
I was wondering why the encirclement bonus' varied so widely, in some of my attacks on blindsnipre I attacked form 5 sides and was getting 150% encirclement bonus.. plus like 20# divisional bonus. Absolutely wild when you can do that, just slaughters anystack, I wonder if this is OP.
That would have probably helped you greatly. If you don't attack with a single HQ then you're losing valuable encirclement bonues.