OT: Some pics of a P-63

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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ORIGINAL: danlongman

I was reading this and some other threads and I have a question.
Does termite always just drop in to say something repugnant and obnoxious?
Is he nine years old? Or just the kind of person who likes to write obscenities on other peoples things?
He even takes the time to say really nasty things to spambots.
Things must be pretty rotten in Denmark.

I think you have picked it up wrong mate, as 'T' is pretty close to the mark in this case. [:-]
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: danlongman

I was reading this and some other threads and I have a question.
Does termite always just drop in to say something repugnant and obnoxious?
Is he nine years old? Or just the kind of person who likes to write obscenities on other peoples things?
He even takes the time to say really nasty things to spambots.
Things must be pretty rotten in Denmark.

I think you have picked it up wrong mate, as 'T' is pretty close to the mark in this case. [:-]
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He's been here a lot longer, so maybe he doesn't have as much patience, but yeah, he's pretty much correct. I might choose different words, but ...
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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Well it is too bad that this thread got hi-jacked for whatever the reasons. I really liked the photos. The P39 for all its faults was certainly one of the most beautiful fighters designed in WWII. I have always had a soft spot for it due to the way it looks.

The P63 seemed to be a very good plane but I doubt the USAF had any need for a fighter with such short range at the date that the P63 appeared. For the Russians it was a much more suitable fit as their fighters were not escorting large bombers deep into enemy territory. They seemed to be very happy with it as they were with the P39.
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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It boggles the mind. Is it really that difficult to either have a rational and civil discussion or to simply take the high road and not respond if you can't do so?
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I thought we had a new moderator, they at least deserve a "yellow card" for trolling a harmless comment.
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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I did notice that the game has the same specs for the P-63. But then our expert wouldn’t be expected to know that, not having the game.

DivePac says that Zeroes regularly eat the P-63's lunch in WitP. Is that true? If so, wouldn't the specs seem to counterindicate that result?
why don't you just try it out yourself?
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Ignore the little assweasel. He's too ignorant to know how ignorant he is.

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Its a shame this thread got out of hand. I love the pictures. Thank you jakla for posting them.

Its also a shame that a certain someone have to voice his dislike of a certain someone else in the manner he does derailing the thread. Rules are rules and if postcount is more important then the forum rules then something is wrong.
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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The P39 for all its faults was certainly one of the most beautiful fighters designed in WWII. I have always had a soft spot for it due to the way it looks.

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I liked flying any of the P-39 variants in IL2. One of my favorites. In game I seem to have pretty good luck using them for base defense, a lot depends on the crew quality.
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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Nice Pics.
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Does anyone know if the P63 corrected the nasty tendency for the earlier models to go into a flat spin. My understanding that this was a serious problem and it was only the most experience pilots who could pull the plane out.
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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Oh, fo sho, cool pics. It sure was a pretty airplane. The game likes it too. Some might consider it a P-39 variant, Imagebut Sy’mon says, in the game it’s waaay mo betta mon. Too bad its only the Sovs that get it (in 1945).

P-39D : Spd 360/231, Man 19-17-13-9-5, Alt 32100’, Climb 2630, (Ftr)
P-39N : Spd 376/200, Man 19-17-13-9-5, Alt 35000’, Climb 2500, (FB)

P-63A : Spd 410/378, Man 23-23-23-23-18, Alt 43000’, Climb 3425, (FB)


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why don't you just try it out yourself?

It is a fair question. My answer is that I don't see the game engine as different enough from Gary Grigsby's Pacific War (including all the old errors, based on the many AARs available) to warrant the effort. Considering how long it takes to PLAY WitP at 1 day per turn, I can't see myself buying it at this time. I can see myself purchasing it at some future date in order to edit the data files and see what can be done with it.
Show me a fellow who rejects statistical analysis a priori and I'll show you a fellow who has no knowledge of statistics.

Didn't we have this conversation already?
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ORIGINAL: mdiehl
why don't you just try it out yourself?

It is a fair question. My answer is that I don't see the game engine as different enough from Gary Grigsby's Pacific War (including all the old errors, based on the many AARs available) to warrant the effort. Considering how long it takes to PLAY WitP at 1 day per turn, I can't see myself buying it at this time. I can see myself purchasing it at some future date in order to edit the data files and see what can be done with it.
What are you doing here then? Why are you participating in discussions about a game you never played?

You're like a catholic preacher who has the determination to tell everyone how a good marriage works. It is interesting in the beginning, maybe even with some partial truth. Then it gets funny, then boring. Finally, it ist just annoying.

You've reached that last stage in your evolution with me and I start to understand why some react like Pawlow's dog as soon as you appear...
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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What are you doing here then?

Responding to discussions in which historical claims were asserted by either agreeing or disagreeing with the assertions on the basis of the real world evidence.
Why are you participating in discussions about a game you never played?


First, much of the discussion involves claims made about the war as it was in the real world. Fair game for anyone to discuss that IMV. Second, I have played WitP. Third I played UV and GGPW extensively. And I can read the AARs. So I am in a very informed position to judge both whether the line of products derived from GGPW is consistent with "ballpark correct results" as compared with WW2.

Finally: As I have noted before. One does not need to own a calico cat in order to be able to talk knowledgeably about the general characteristics of a given calico cat because, in the end, it's still a cat. Or if you can't understand that analogy, imagine someone like you claiming that a person cannot possibly know anything at all about a 2012 Cheverolet Malibu because they have only owned a 2004 Chevrolet Malibu, read all of the CR reviews for each model year, and driven a 2012 Malibu.

In short, your objection is both meritless and illogical.
You've reached that last stage in your evolution with me


If you're deeply offended by me, feel free to use the green button. I honestly do not care what stage of "evolution" my status may be with you.
and I start to understand why some react like Pawlow's dog as soon as you appear...


It is, after all, in the nature of dogs to bark, wipe their rear ends on the carpet, and try to hump others legs.
Show me a fellow who rejects statistical analysis a priori and I'll show you a fellow who has no knowledge of statistics.

Didn't we have this conversation already?
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ORIGINAL: mdiehl
One does not need to own a calico cat in order to be able to talk knowledgeably about the general characteristics of a given calico cat because, in the end, it's still a cat.

Interesting, your statements while attempting to relate to game behaviour prove the opposite on a regular basis.
But you will not find out since you don´t play.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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ORIGINAL: Historiker

[What are you doing here then? Why are you participating in discussions about a game you never played?

Because he can't troll a well policed and moderated board dedicated to military history. So for the last 10+ years he's been plauging this board with his bullsheit. Just follow this golden rule and you'll be fine: All things Japanese suck. [;)]
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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Goodness me what a surprise, mdiehl dis agrees with me (as he does), I'm deeply hurt I am.


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you have been naughty.

VERY VERY NAUGHTY. You said something nice about Japanese planes.

reminds me of a song.......sung to the tune of Santa Claus is coming to town

Here comes Mike Diehl
Here comes Mike Diehl
right down Matrix Lane......
Japanese Fan Boys.....Japanese Fan Boys.......all must clear away.
All their planes and tanks.......torps and flasks......all are just worthless and droll.
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63

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All things Japanese suck.


I never made that claim, do not hold that point of view, and you of all people ought to know it.
Show me a fellow who rejects statistical analysis a priori and I'll show you a fellow who has no knowledge of statistics.

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