Conjectural Dutch "Aviation Cruiser"
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Conjectural Dutch "Aviation Cruiser"
I came up with this ship for War in the Pacific and am thinking about adding it for AE if I have the time to develop my own mod.
The idea is that the Dutch are influenced by the Swedish "aviation cruiser" Gotland and build a similar ship called Celebes. Here is a screenshot of the old WitP ship. It would be refittable as a CLAA armed with British equipment later in the war.
The idea is that the Dutch are influenced by the Swedish "aviation cruiser" Gotland and build a similar ship called Celebes. Here is a screenshot of the old WitP ship. It would be refittable as a CLAA armed with British equipment later in the war.
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RE: Conjectural Dutch "Aviation Cruiser"
I remember you did that one (way back when). Added it to my own mod.
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I'm having trouble getting the screenshot to post.
It was a fun mod. Just lots of little toys, some real, some conjectural.
It was a fun mod. Just lots of little toys, some real, some conjectural.
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RE: Conjectural Dutch "Aviation Cruiser"
Let's try again
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Remember that the Dutch had the Hazemeyer 40mm Bofors and not the 2pdr.
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Yeah, I know...that is a VERY old screenshot I found on my files. The final version had the Hazemeyer
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RE: Conjectural Dutch "Aviation Cruiser"
OK, here is the Dutch "Aviation cruiser" Celebes.
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Sorry about the too-big sizing there. Here is the Celebes as refitted by the British in late 1942.
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The type 279 radar is supposed to be "all sides" of course.
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You still have the art work and shills for it laying around?
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I never did art work...I just had the game use the artwork for the Dutch Tromp-class CL. Even if I had artwork, I've never figured out how to install new art properly. I need a tutorial with that.
The idea here is that in the 1930s the Dutch took the Swedish Gotland seaplane cruiser idea and built their own version on a Tromp-style hull. It seems like something the Dutch would have been interested in.
If you don't know about the Gotland, check wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Gotland_(1933)
The idea here is that in the 1930s the Dutch took the Swedish Gotland seaplane cruiser idea and built their own version on a Tromp-style hull. It seems like something the Dutch would have been interested in.
If you don't know about the Gotland, check wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Gotland_(1933)
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Never read about that ship before. Interesting read, thanks.
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I would suggest that the Celebes would probably lose her seaplane capability in the mid- to late-war scheme of things. She would no longer be needed to patrol the DEI (lost to the Japs at this point) and all those planes are a massive fire hazard during air attack. Maybe rebuild her, Tromp-style, into a CLAA? The Gotland became a CLAA after spare parts for her Osprey flotplanes ran out.
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If nothing else, there would be no spare parts for the planes. How about converting her into a Seaplane tender? She has all that hanger space aft, would make a great area for repair shops.
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BTW, here's the ship art I made for the Celebes waaaaaay back in the day (the blurriness is due to resizing of a normal shipside .bmp and conversion to .jpg):
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Here's a new one I just made, perhaps a bit more "in tune" with the ship's stats:
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Oh, that's great art!
I have thought about a "complete CLAA conversion" as well. I think I will work on of those up. It would be about mid-1943.
I have thought about a "complete CLAA conversion" as well. I think I will work on of those up. It would be about mid-1943.
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Or there could be multiple possible upgrade paths...a mild refit with radar and extra AA but that retains her CS ability, or a refit that turns her into an AV (using the hangar as Oldman points out), or a full-scale CLAA conversion that strips out the hangar in exchange for British 4inch-DP and extra 40MM, or maybe one that keeps the hangar space but turns it into repair shops and makes her a small-but-fast AR.
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Looks good Terminus, can you post the art work so I can add it to my mod?
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Here we are. zip file includes side and shil files.
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