Elastic Defense

[general_solomon]

hey guys,

I was wondering if the game can simulate an elastic defense or a general tactical retreat?

does the game allow for units to disengage?

I am envisioning a scenario on a large map where you have to use a tactical retreat to a couple fall back position and then counter attack? can this type of scenario be simulated in this game?

i am rally fascinated by this type of maneuver.

I read this article a couple years ago and always wanted to simulate such scenerios:

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/wehrmach ... 84#respond

too little is written about this great general.

[rickier65]

ORIGINAL: general_solomon

hey guys,

I was wondering if the game can simulate an elastic defense or a general tactical retreat?

does the game allow for units to disengage?

I am envisioning a scenario on a large map where you have to use a tactical retreat to a couple fall back position and then counter attack? can this type of scenario be simulated in this game?

i am rally fascinated by this type of maneuver.

I read this article a couple years ago and always wanted to simulate such scenerios:

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/wehrmach ... 84#respond

too little is written about this great general.

Most of the scenarios in Panzer Command cover a 15 minute to 45 minute battle time, so the type of defensive action described in link doesn't really have time to develop within a scenario.

That said, there are withdraw orders available, and there are times when that is a sound choice. Units that are withdrawing in good ordder can still fire on enemy units and inflict damage.

Thanks
rick

[Mobius]

There are some scenarios were you can withdraw when things get real hot. Tanks are easy enough but with infantry this often requires that the LOS be broken somehow. With smoke it can be done. It might be possible to suppress the other side. But if you can do why would you be pulling back?

[Erik Rutins]

There is also a form of tactical elastic defense and tactical withdrawal and defense in depth that does work in Ostfront. I've used it with success, but what is described above is at a larger grand tactical or even operational scale, probably best represented in something like John Tiller's Campaign Series, Combat Command or TOAW.

Regards,

- Erik

[general_solomon]

ORIGINAL: Rick

Units that are withdrawing in good order can still fire on enemy units and inflict damage.

Thanks
rick

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I didn't know unit could fire while retreading. maybe a campaign where you are tasked to withdraw by playing on multiple maps.

[general_solomon]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

There is also a form of tactical elastic defense and tactical withdrawal and defense in depth that does work in Ostfront. I've used it with success, but what is described above is at a larger grand tactical or even operational scale, probably best represented in something like John Tiller's Campaign Series, Combat Command or TOAW.

Regards,

- Erik

I would love to see an AAR where you perform an elastic defense. I know you dont like video aar's as a simple aar would work better. again, only if you have time.

[rickier65]

ORIGINAL: general_solomon

I didn't know unit could fire while retreading. maybe a campaign where you are tasked to withdraw by playing on multiple maps.

there is a distinction IN PCO between retreating and withdrawing. I don't think units can fire while retreating, but they can while withdrawing.

Thanks
Rick