Pictorial Map Building
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- Mad Russian
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Pictorial Map Building
I'm working on a 2km map. I decided that with all the questions being asked that pictures are certainly worth thousands of words. So, here is a step by step tutorial to making a PCO map.
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MR
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
For me personally the first step in making a map is researching the historical engagement. That means getting as much information about the actual battle as possible. In this case I don't have a battle map and only have an approximation of where the fight took place.
The fight was east of Berlin on the Bollersdorf to Strausberg road. Time to open Google Earth and locate it in the main program.
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The fight was east of Berlin on the Bollersdorf to Strausberg road. Time to open Google Earth and locate it in the main program.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
But I don't want a 10km map. What I'm looking for is a 2km map. So, I'm looking for the logical location where I think the battle took place.
Time to move down in Google Earth and take a closer look.
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Time to move down in Google Earth and take a closer look.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
I'll use the ruler in Google Earth to check and see where my 2km area will cover.
I don't think the battle includes the village since it's not mentioned in the description of the battle. Only that the fight takes place near Bollersdorf.
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I don't think the battle includes the village since it's not mentioned in the description of the battle. Only that the fight takes place near Bollersdorf.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Now that we have our location we are going to open up Map Maker while keeping Google Earth open as well.
That way I can use GE to help me locate the exact same spot in MM.
When I open MM it asks me what size maps I will be working with. That includes making new maps or editing existing maps. In this case I type in 2000 for a 2km map.
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That way I can use GE to help me locate the exact same spot in MM.
When I open MM it asks me what size maps I will be working with. That includes making new maps or editing existing maps. In this case I type in 2000 for a 2km map.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Once MM is open you simply click anywhere in the Google Earth search box to active the map location feature. You can zoom in and out using your mouse wheel.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
By having both Google Earth and Map Maker open at the same time I can lay the Map Maker over GE and make it easier to find my battle location.
In the Map Maker window you can see the proximity to Berlin of both Strausberg and Bollersdorf.
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In the Map Maker window you can see the proximity to Berlin of both Strausberg and Bollersdorf.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
I will continue to move the location box lower and lower until I get the area I want in my map to be what is surrounded in the yellow MM location box.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
You can see how I'm moving the MM location box closer to where I intend to create my map.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Once I get it near Bollingsdorf then we start to position the location box more precisely over the area we want to recreate in our map.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Until I get the location box over the part of Google Earth I want to import into my map.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
This is what our Map Maker will look like when I've positioned the location box where I want it. The hard part is finally finished.
It can be interesting to keep moving lower and lower and sometimes I lose my references and have to move back out. Not all locations are easily identifiable when you start zooming in on them. This location wasn't bad. I just had to zoom back out once.
Everything inside that yellow location square is about to be created in a 2km square battle map. Both in height and terrain.
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It can be interesting to keep moving lower and lower and sometimes I lose my references and have to move back out. Not all locations are easily identifiable when you start zooming in on them. This location wasn't bad. I just had to zoom back out once.
Everything inside that yellow location square is about to be created in a 2km square battle map. Both in height and terrain.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Now it's time to create the height map. To do that you simply click on the global symbol in the upper left hand corner of Map Maker. The global symbol is just to the right of the interface label H/Map:
At this point you could import your own height map from an outside source as well by simply clicking on the file button to the left of the global symbol and importing your height map file from another source.
MM will inform you that it needs to create an SRTM file. You would click "OK" and start the process.
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At this point you could import your own height map from an outside source as well by simply clicking on the file button to the left of the global symbol and importing your height map file from another source.
MM will inform you that it needs to create an SRTM file. You would click "OK" and start the process.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Then it asks if you want to open or save the file. The answer to that is to save it.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
MM doesn't default the save so you need to tell it to save the file in the Panzer Command Ostfront directory and in the DEMS folder.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Once the file has been saved click on the small global icon in the upper left corner again and it will create the height map using the file you just saved.
Once the height map has been created MM gives you a statistical review of what was created and asks if you want to have the map smoothed. MM is simply asking if you want the terrain smoothed out. At this point I always tell MM no. I want to see what the actual terrain looks like before it gets changed. I can always smooth it later either in parts or as a whole and I prefer to do it later after I've looked at the map.
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Once the height map has been created MM gives you a statistical review of what was created and asks if you want to have the map smoothed. MM is simply asking if you want the terrain smoothed out. At this point I always tell MM no. I want to see what the actual terrain looks like before it gets changed. I can always smooth it later either in parts or as a whole and I prefer to do it later after I've looked at the map.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
At this point MM has created my height map. Since deciding that the yellow location box was correctly positioned to create the map area I want this will take about 3 minutes for a 2km map.
The gray scale is representative of darker color being lower and lighter color being higher terrain.
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The gray scale is representative of darker color being lower and lighter color being higher terrain.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Now that the height map is imported we need a terrain map.
On the other side of the MM interface is another small global depiction. To get a terrain map we click on the right hand globe this time. These are just to the right of the label T/Map.
At this point you could import your own terrain map from an outside source as well by simply clicking on the file button to the left of the global symbol and importing your terrain map file from another source.
When you click the global selection button MM will ask you if you want to use a set of parameters for creating the terrain map. I always accept the ones that are the default.
Good Hunting.
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On the other side of the MM interface is another small global depiction. To get a terrain map we click on the right hand globe this time. These are just to the right of the label T/Map.
At this point you could import your own terrain map from an outside source as well by simply clicking on the file button to the left of the global symbol and importing your terrain map file from another source.
When you click the global selection button MM will ask you if you want to use a set of parameters for creating the terrain map. I always accept the ones that are the default.
Good Hunting.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
Once you tell MM to create your terrain map it will create it and then ask if you want to import the terrain map into MM at this point. I do.
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RE: Pictorial Map Building
And now we have both a height map in gray scale and a terrain map which looks like this.
This very moment, all those colors on that terrain map mean nothing. We've not assigned any texture to them yet.
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MR
This very moment, all those colors on that terrain map mean nothing. We've not assigned any texture to them yet.
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