Planning map (Operationskarte) and Frontline-Date map.
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
So how did you get the CV for the 4th Pz to 42? I like it! By the way, great maps!
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
ORIGINAL: Captain B
So how did you get the CV for the 4th Pz to 42? I like it! By the way, great maps!
Hi!
You get that CV by resting in beautiful Copenhagen![:)]
( Its actually the value for two panzer divisions)
Goran
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi!
The new version of the "planning map" will look like this.
The goal is, as much as possible, to resemble the German "Operationskarte" from the war.They were maps that were used to describe the
military situation. So called "Lagekarten" when showing the own- and enemy units.In English; "Situation maps".
Mostly in the scale 1:1 Milj, but other scales ex 1: 300 000 was also used depending on purpose.
This goal means a Germanization of the geographical names. Not even in this sort of maps, however, it was consequently done.
The degree varies with time, political intentions and of course also with type of map.
I have been able to work with original paper maps which simplifies a bit.
A Russian version would be interesting and I just have seen in another post that this is discussed.
Maps are important in these types of games. The War in the East map represents, in my opinion, a new level of realistic looking map that makes it possible
and worthwhile to work with it.
Red dots mean ingame (in the game engine) named hexes. No red dot is moved to another hex. They are just changed to the German naming. ( In a very few cases changed to another town/village name better representing the hex). The black dots are added towns/villages/important railway stations.Sometimes are those adding historical interest Gameplay is of course not changed.
Coastal lines have sometimes been altered towards those in my maps.
Inform me of errors,please. Will upload the playable tga files in a couple of days.
Regards,
Goran
The new version of the "planning map" will look like this.
The goal is, as much as possible, to resemble the German "Operationskarte" from the war.They were maps that were used to describe the
military situation. So called "Lagekarten" when showing the own- and enemy units.In English; "Situation maps".
Mostly in the scale 1:1 Milj, but other scales ex 1: 300 000 was also used depending on purpose.
This goal means a Germanization of the geographical names. Not even in this sort of maps, however, it was consequently done.
The degree varies with time, political intentions and of course also with type of map.
I have been able to work with original paper maps which simplifies a bit.
A Russian version would be interesting and I just have seen in another post that this is discussed.
Maps are important in these types of games. The War in the East map represents, in my opinion, a new level of realistic looking map that makes it possible
and worthwhile to work with it.
Red dots mean ingame (in the game engine) named hexes. No red dot is moved to another hex. They are just changed to the German naming. ( In a very few cases changed to another town/village name better representing the hex). The black dots are added towns/villages/important railway stations.Sometimes are those adding historical interest Gameplay is of course not changed.
Coastal lines have sometimes been altered towards those in my maps.
Inform me of errors,please. Will upload the playable tga files in a couple of days.
Regards,
Goran
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Very nice! Thanks!
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi!
The new version of the "planning map" (Operationskarte).
Red dots are original in the game names hexes ( just Germanized or in a few cases
changed to another name better representing the hex).
Black dots are more names added from the German Operationskarten.
Some altered coastlines. No change in gameplay.
Can be downloaded from
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1DLOAED3
or from my homesite
http://www.mannaberg.se
the frontline map from
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WQ4U0SH5
or from my homesite
http://www.mannaberg.se
Regards,
GoranW
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi all,
Thanks Goran!
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Thanks Goran!
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi!
Have done an OOB- compilation to the Frontline-date map.(not the Planning map)
No guarantee of exactness. Probably some errors. But;
When playing and turning over to the zoom2 frontline map to compare to history
you could get some overview information about (at different times)
which forces that stood against each other from north to south.
Regards,
GoranW
Have done an OOB- compilation to the Frontline-date map.(not the Planning map)
No guarantee of exactness. Probably some errors. But;
When playing and turning over to the zoom2 frontline map to compare to history
you could get some overview information about (at different times)
which forces that stood against each other from north to south.
Regards,
GoranW
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
goran,
YOU are amazing! This is GREAT STUFF! Thanks.
bcg
YOU are amazing! This is GREAT STUFF! Thanks.
bcg
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi!
Couldnt resist from taking these screen shots from an AI-AI test. Its just turn 2.
I find them attractive with the colours. German styled units on the " Operationskarte".
Zoom1 level. Even in stacks you can see formation colour.
Regards,
Goran
Couldnt resist from taking these screen shots from an AI-AI test. Its just turn 2.
I find them attractive with the colours. German styled units on the " Operationskarte".
Zoom1 level. Even in stacks you can see formation colour.
Regards,
Goran
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
From Soviet side. Turn 2.
Goran
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Goranw,
Is it possible to get a copy of the excel spreadsheet of the OOB instead of the .jpg?
Is it possible to get a copy of the excel spreadsheet of the OOB instead of the .jpg?
The origin of the word "Apocalypse" = The revealing of hidden knowledge.
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
ORIGINAL: Chromius
Goranw,
Is it possible to get a copy of the excel spreadsheet of the OOB instead of the .jpg?
Hi!
You can download it from my site www.mannaberg.se
Its uploaded there now.
Open office sheet. xls-like . (3 sheets)
GoranW
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Downloaded. Thanks for that.
Cheers
Cheers
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi!
New version of the "planning map-Operationskarte"
Reworked some areas. Villages/towns are a bit differentiated
regarding man power. Factories also a bit differentiated.
More names especially in areas of historic interest.
No change in game play. Added not ingame villages/towns have a black dot.
Tga -files will tomorrow be uploaded to my home-site. www.mannaberg.se
See also jpg -file.
GoranW
New version of the "planning map-Operationskarte"
Reworked some areas. Villages/towns are a bit differentiated
regarding man power. Factories also a bit differentiated.
More names especially in areas of historic interest.
No change in game play. Added not ingame villages/towns have a black dot.
Tga -files will tomorrow be uploaded to my home-site. www.mannaberg.se
See also jpg -file.
GoranW
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Perfect! Your map has been extremely useful for scenario design. You must have these name and places readily available when you are reading a battle account. Your map answers the mail. Thanks Goran for all the time and effort you have put into this mod--much fruit will come of it as others try there hand at small scenarios. Nice!
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi!
Its now possible to download the playable tga-files from my home-site.
Personally when playing/testing I use this ( zoom 2) and
the frontline-date map in zoom 4 ( also to download). Then a situation/names could be
compared to historical situation by just changing zoom level.
The way of differentiating the dots could of course also be discussed.
Since this map is German orientated ( from different German Lagekarten- Situation maps)
it would be good to have also a Russian version as discussed elsewhere.
Please inform me about errors.
GoranW
Its now possible to download the playable tga-files from my home-site.
Personally when playing/testing I use this ( zoom 2) and
the frontline-date map in zoom 4 ( also to download). Then a situation/names could be
compared to historical situation by just changing zoom level.
The way of differentiating the dots could of course also be discussed.
Since this map is German orientated ( from different German Lagekarten- Situation maps)
it would be good to have also a Russian version as discussed elsewhere.
Please inform me about errors.
GoranW
RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi!
I have adjusted the 40 and 41 tga-files in my "Operationskarte"
Its the Tscherkassy-Korsun area and I use it when studying
bcgames very interesting scenario regarding that area.
First with units and then without. (to make the historical names readable.)
Then its easy to follow any good literature about these happenings and
compare game to history.Downloadable from www.mannaberg.se
( As also the whole "Operationskarte" and the frontline-date map.)
Goran
I have adjusted the 40 and 41 tga-files in my "Operationskarte"
Its the Tscherkassy-Korsun area and I use it when studying
bcgames very interesting scenario regarding that area.
First with units and then without. (to make the historical names readable.)
Then its easy to follow any good literature about these happenings and
compare game to history.Downloadable from www.mannaberg.se
( As also the whole "Operationskarte" and the frontline-date map.)
Goran
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
I actually got framed and laminated 100cm x 130m wall painting of this map. i can use board pens, different colours and erase them as I please what´s next; field marshall´s baton? =D
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Thanks so much but which file is it? There is about 20 of them listed?ORIGINAL: goranw
ORIGINAL: Kharkov43
Very nice map, I'm not computer smart at all if someone could PLEASE tell me step by step to down load this and make it work on my computer I would be Thankful. Regards Joe you can send me a PM if you want.............[&o]
Hi!
Its now possible to download it from my home-site
www.mannaberg.se
(perhaps more easy)
Download to your desktop.
Then unzip it to the same place.
Go to the folder where you have the game. Click.
Go to the folder Dat. Click.
Go to the folder Art. Click.
Rename the origin file zoom2_nogrid, ex by adding reserve-
Keep it.
Finally move the newly uploaded file from your desktop into the Art folder.
Start the game. ( Choose the nonhex version.)
If its not functioning feel free to email me at goranwickstrom@hotmail.com
Goran
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RE: Planning map(on a zoom 2 map)
Hi!
I see that I have been unclear/ wrongly about files and folders.
I try to be more clear.
Download from my home-site www.mannaberg.se the folder Zoom2_nogrid.zip
Rename the original game folder zoom2_nogrid ( in the game its situated in the Art-folder) ,
ex by adding reserve-after the name.
Keep it so you have it and can take back the change.
Unzip the folder you have down loaded from my site into the Art-folder.
Name it Zoom2_nogrid.
Start the game and choose the non-hex version.
( Same procedure but with other names regarding the frontline-date map)
Goran
I see that I have been unclear/ wrongly about files and folders.
I try to be more clear.
Download from my home-site www.mannaberg.se the folder Zoom2_nogrid.zip
Rename the original game folder zoom2_nogrid ( in the game its situated in the Art-folder) ,
ex by adding reserve-after the name.
Keep it so you have it and can take back the change.
Unzip the folder you have down loaded from my site into the Art-folder.
Name it Zoom2_nogrid.
Start the game and choose the non-hex version.
( Same procedure but with other names regarding the frontline-date map)
Goran