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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
Hi PzB,
I have a question for you. Considering Darwin fell in early Aug. 43 and Andy has invaded the Timor line within a month and a half and from Perth no less, how important to you think holding Northern Australia was? Was it worth the effort or would simply isolating Darwin achieve the same results? If you hadn't held Northern Australia through August 1943 how do you see the strategic situation having developed? Do you think it delayed the invasion until now or would Andy have attacked much sooner if Northern Australia had been his. The fact that the Allies launched their assault based from Perth, does that make holding Darwin and area moot, or is holding it mainly to deny bases being built up for 4E's? I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you think the Allies would have invaded any sooner had you never held Northern Australia?
I have a question for you. Considering Darwin fell in early Aug. 43 and Andy has invaded the Timor line within a month and a half and from Perth no less, how important to you think holding Northern Australia was? Was it worth the effort or would simply isolating Darwin achieve the same results? If you hadn't held Northern Australia through August 1943 how do you see the strategic situation having developed? Do you think it delayed the invasion until now or would Andy have attacked much sooner if Northern Australia had been his. The fact that the Allies launched their assault based from Perth, does that make holding Darwin and area moot, or is holding it mainly to deny bases being built up for 4E's? I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you think the Allies would have invaded any sooner had you never held Northern Australia?
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
That's a question you may have to send to Andy Lemon!
I think Andy has planned this operations for quite some time and just accelerated it when he saw that I was pulling out of Northern Oz.
- His main plan may have been to trap my forces in Northern Oz by a coupe de main in the DEI instead.
I definetly think it's worth holding on to Northern Oz well into 43; this is a bastion against Allied invasion of the DEI.
It's a balancing act really; do you want to risk getting an army trapped in Northern Oz and do you still have enough resources to plan a decent defence ofthe DEI?
Relatively quiet turn; Andy sent most of his ac at Waingapoe on sweeps..against a closed base.
We swept Waingapoe and downed quite a few Hellcats.
I've also initiated an operation to reclaim the little island of Lomblen before it can be built and become yet another thorn in our side.
Such small ulcers must be dealt with asap!
Andy on the other hand used his carriers to squash the defenders of Derby and the place fell easily.
We now only hold Broome and Nookanbah, a small town south of Derby we reclaimed today with our isolated tank regiment.
- A continued delaying action in other word.
A sub observed a tanker convoy coming up the coast from Perth, looks like a major replenishment is scheduled.
With our growing regional strength I hope to pacify Waingapoe and make it absolutely suicide for the Allies to return.
I can't see how we can fail if we place the KB behind a 1000 LBA, a sub screen, mines and surface combat units.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 24, 43
Invasions
Pre-Invasion action off Lomblen
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
E W-33
AK Kinka Maru
Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
E W-33 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
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Amphibious Assault at Lomblen
TF 79 troops unloading over beach at Lomblen, 68,113
Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (0 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
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Invasion Support action off Lomblen
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
E W-33
AK Kinka Maru
E W-33 fired at enemy troops
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Surface Combat
Day Time Surface Combat, near Lomblen at 68,113, Range 12,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
E Karii
E W-27
Allied Ships
PT-234, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT-235, Shell hits 1
PT-236
PT-237
PT-238, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-239
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Air Combat
Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Endeh , at 65,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 32
Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 1st Australian Para Battalion, at 68,113 (Lomblen)
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 24
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 4000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Also attacking 102nd Combat Engr Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking 1st Australian Para Bn /2 ...
Also attacking 102nd Combat Engr Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking 1st Australian Para Bn /2 ...
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lomblen at 69,112
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
PT-239
PT-235
PT-237
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on II./4th Infantry Battalion, at 64,127 (Derby)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 63
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 57
SBD-3 Dauntless x 44
SBD-5 Dauntless x 65
TBF-1 Avenger x 129
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
692 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 12th Garrison Unit , at 64,127 (Derby)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Allied aircraft
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 26
TBF-1 Avenger x 18
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 2 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on Endeh , at 65,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Hurricane XIIb x 3
B-17F Fortress x 5
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-25D1 Mitchell x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 43
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Morning Air attack on Endeh , at 65,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 18
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Morning Air attack on Endeh , at 65,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lomblen at 69,112
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
PT-235
PT-237
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Ground Combat
Ground combat at Nookanbah (66,130)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 306 troops, 0 guns, 52 vehicles, Assault Value = 29
Defending force 204 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3
Japanese adjusted assault: 27
Allied adjusted defense: 4
Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Nookanbah !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
11th Tank Regiment
Defending units:
3rd RAN Base Force /1
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Ground combat at Derby (64,127)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 3717 troops, 16 guns, 431 vehicles, Assault Value = 242
Defending force 642 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10
Allied adjusted assault: 50
Japanese adjusted defense: 2
Allied assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied forces CAPTURE Derby !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)
Japanese ground losses:
415 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3
Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
4th Armoured Brigade
10th Light Horse Battalion
Defending units:
II./4th Infantry Battalion
12th Garrison Unit /1
21st JAAF AF Bn /1
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Ground combat at Lomblen (68,113)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 193 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 47
Defending force 1222 troops, 15 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 36
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
102nd Combat Engr Rgt /1
Americal Infantry Div /1
1st Australian Para Bn /2
810th EAB /1
872/873rd EAB /1
3rd USN Naval Const Rgt /1
Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF /2
4th Raiding Rgt /5
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The Battles Continue....
I think Andy has planned this operations for quite some time and just accelerated it when he saw that I was pulling out of Northern Oz.
- His main plan may have been to trap my forces in Northern Oz by a coupe de main in the DEI instead.
I definetly think it's worth holding on to Northern Oz well into 43; this is a bastion against Allied invasion of the DEI.
It's a balancing act really; do you want to risk getting an army trapped in Northern Oz and do you still have enough resources to plan a decent defence ofthe DEI?
Relatively quiet turn; Andy sent most of his ac at Waingapoe on sweeps..against a closed base.
We swept Waingapoe and downed quite a few Hellcats.
I've also initiated an operation to reclaim the little island of Lomblen before it can be built and become yet another thorn in our side.
Such small ulcers must be dealt with asap!
Andy on the other hand used his carriers to squash the defenders of Derby and the place fell easily.
We now only hold Broome and Nookanbah, a small town south of Derby we reclaimed today with our isolated tank regiment.
- A continued delaying action in other word.
A sub observed a tanker convoy coming up the coast from Perth, looks like a major replenishment is scheduled.
With our growing regional strength I hope to pacify Waingapoe and make it absolutely suicide for the Allies to return.
I can't see how we can fail if we place the KB behind a 1000 LBA, a sub screen, mines and surface combat units.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 24, 43
Invasions
Pre-Invasion action off Lomblen
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
E W-33
AK Kinka Maru
Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
E W-33 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
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Amphibious Assault at Lomblen
TF 79 troops unloading over beach at Lomblen, 68,113
Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (0 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
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Invasion Support action off Lomblen
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
E W-33
AK Kinka Maru
E W-33 fired at enemy troops
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Surface Combat
Day Time Surface Combat, near Lomblen at 68,113, Range 12,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
E Karii
E W-27
Allied Ships
PT-234, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT-235, Shell hits 1
PT-236
PT-237
PT-238, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-239
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Air Combat
Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Endeh , at 65,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 32
Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 1st Australian Para Battalion, at 68,113 (Lomblen)
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 24
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 4000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Also attacking 102nd Combat Engr Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking 1st Australian Para Bn /2 ...
Also attacking 102nd Combat Engr Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking 1st Australian Para Bn /2 ...
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lomblen at 69,112
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
PT-239
PT-235
PT-237
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on II./4th Infantry Battalion, at 64,127 (Derby)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 63
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 57
SBD-3 Dauntless x 44
SBD-5 Dauntless x 65
TBF-1 Avenger x 129
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
692 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 12th Garrison Unit , at 64,127 (Derby)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Allied aircraft
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 26
TBF-1 Avenger x 18
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 2 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on Endeh , at 65,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Hurricane XIIb x 3
B-17F Fortress x 5
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-25D1 Mitchell x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 43
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Morning Air attack on Endeh , at 65,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 18
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Morning Air attack on Endeh , at 65,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lomblen at 69,112
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
PT-235
PT-237
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Ground Combat
Ground combat at Nookanbah (66,130)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 306 troops, 0 guns, 52 vehicles, Assault Value = 29
Defending force 204 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3
Japanese adjusted assault: 27
Allied adjusted defense: 4
Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Nookanbah !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
11th Tank Regiment
Defending units:
3rd RAN Base Force /1
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Ground combat at Derby (64,127)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 3717 troops, 16 guns, 431 vehicles, Assault Value = 242
Defending force 642 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10
Allied adjusted assault: 50
Japanese adjusted defense: 2
Allied assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied forces CAPTURE Derby !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)
Japanese ground losses:
415 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3
Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
4th Armoured Brigade
10th Light Horse Battalion
Defending units:
II./4th Infantry Battalion
12th Garrison Unit /1
21st JAAF AF Bn /1
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Ground combat at Lomblen (68,113)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 193 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 47
Defending force 1222 troops, 15 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 36
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
102nd Combat Engr Rgt /1
Americal Infantry Div /1
1st Australian Para Bn /2
810th EAB /1
872/873rd EAB /1
3rd USN Naval Const Rgt /1
Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF /2
4th Raiding Rgt /5
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The Battles Continue....
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
What is the pilot quality of your Tojo's?? They seem to do very well on their sweeps. [:)]
Have you got BFs along with Emily/Mavis operating out of Cocos Island and/or Christmas Island (IO)?? Don't want to see things come out of the morning mist in this area at a later date.
Have you got BFs along with Emily/Mavis operating out of Cocos Island and/or Christmas Island (IO)?? Don't want to see things come out of the morning mist in this area at a later date.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
How is the area around Makassar ? There are quite a lot of lvl 9 bases. Have you developed them and how is the aviation support there ?
Do not forget to fortify Timor. There are some lvl 9 bases there which can ruin your day if the enemy takes them. Not to the max but at least a defense force which can defend against one or two divisions.
You can and should rely heavy on your surface assets. Do not waste them but two bases can quite easy be closed with naval assets alone. Even if the enemy can and will repair them very quickly you will kill planes on the ground so it is very costly to operate planes from there.
In addition i am quite impressed about your air to air ratio of your sweeps. Escorts fail against cap as always but your sweeps are powerful against the Hellcat. Use them as much as possible. You already killed almost 2 months of plane production and by now the replenishment carriers should be empty. Do not forget for your planing that some of the carriers already arrived with their Hellcats on board so i do not think that the pool is already complete empty but if you can keep that ratio of attrition it will hurt. In addition next month the F4U-1 will arrive at 71 per month.
From my point of view you have to fight now, and if possible recapture the lost bases. You can expect the enemy to put quite a lot of stuff into this area of operation and it is the most threatening area. If you lose some bases in the line islands, who cares as it is a very very long way back to the homelands. But here in the SRA the enemy is very close to your lifeline. Give him a lvl 9 base which is not suppressed and you have a problem.
As an additional question, as his carriers are close to norther OZ what about the remaining TFs in the area ? Are there just PTs or is there something worth to strike with KB. I do not think that Andy already expects KB in the area so it is questionable if you need to keep it hidden any more.
Overall quite a nice battle [:D]
Do not forget to fortify Timor. There are some lvl 9 bases there which can ruin your day if the enemy takes them. Not to the max but at least a defense force which can defend against one or two divisions.
You can and should rely heavy on your surface assets. Do not waste them but two bases can quite easy be closed with naval assets alone. Even if the enemy can and will repair them very quickly you will kill planes on the ground so it is very costly to operate planes from there.
In addition i am quite impressed about your air to air ratio of your sweeps. Escorts fail against cap as always but your sweeps are powerful against the Hellcat. Use them as much as possible. You already killed almost 2 months of plane production and by now the replenishment carriers should be empty. Do not forget for your planing that some of the carriers already arrived with their Hellcats on board so i do not think that the pool is already complete empty but if you can keep that ratio of attrition it will hurt. In addition next month the F4U-1 will arrive at 71 per month.
From my point of view you have to fight now, and if possible recapture the lost bases. You can expect the enemy to put quite a lot of stuff into this area of operation and it is the most threatening area. If you lose some bases in the line islands, who cares as it is a very very long way back to the homelands. But here in the SRA the enemy is very close to your lifeline. Give him a lvl 9 base which is not suppressed and you have a problem.
As an additional question, as his carriers are close to norther OZ what about the remaining TFs in the area ? Are there just PTs or is there something worth to strike with KB. I do not think that Andy already expects KB in the area so it is questionable if you need to keep it hidden any more.
Overall quite a nice battle [:D]
RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
am i missing something here the allied carriers are sitting in range of all LBA and KB but dont engage, instead wait for him too capture more bases?
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
Thanks for this tip!ORIGINAL: ny59giants
I'll just add this comment in passing as you may already know about it. You can click on an existing LCU and under the Unit Organization if there are future reinforcements that all parts belong to, you can start prepping the future reinforcements for it. Click on the future reinforcement and change what it is prepping for. It may help your in-depth planning.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
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am i missing something here the allied carriers are sitting in range of all LBA and KB but dont engage, instead wait for him too capture more bases?
who is this guy? Is this an attempt to be funny and I´m missing the point? [8|] Perhaps a pm to a mod can help here.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Thanks for this tip!ORIGINAL: ny59giants
I'll just add this comment in passing as you may already know about it. You can click on an existing LCU and under the Unit Organization if there are future reinforcements that all parts belong to, you can start prepping the future reinforcements for it. Click on the future reinforcement and change what it is prepping for. It may help your in-depth planning.
+1, did not know this either.
Also, as we are in process of giving people their due, a big THANKS to PzB for sharing all of this with us, especially those of us who are waiting for turns in their own games- whenever the battle between Andy Mac and him gets heated up, I can't wait to see another turn being published in this thread.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
i havd to agree giant here. your tojo fighters preform very well against his hellcats.
this air attacks with navy dive-and torpedobombers...i realy dont get it. why andy wastes his carrier sorties for attacks that can be made also via LBA?
best thing would be when his carriers have to retreat to perth for resupply and are out of action for at least a week so you can go in and close Waingapoe once and forever with your battleships so when his carriers come back with transport TFs they have to deal with KB and LBA without own LBA support.
this air attacks with navy dive-and torpedobombers...i realy dont get it. why andy wastes his carrier sorties for attacks that can be made also via LBA?
best thing would be when his carriers have to retreat to perth for resupply and are out of action for at least a week so you can go in and close Waingapoe once and forever with your battleships so when his carriers come back with transport TFs they have to deal with KB and LBA without own LBA support.
RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
ORIGINAL: bigbaba
i... so you can go in and close Waingapoe once and forever with your battleships ....
I'm not sure this can be done. If Andy has +1000 Engr/+200 Engr Vehicles there, as he easily could, they can repair even 99/99/99 damage frightfully quick. as witpqs wrote above, at this point the allies can build up bases with their engr armada from jungle to mega-field in just a few weeks.
Close it? Yes, but only for a few days at best. Just my opinion.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
I might not have time for regular comments here, but if anything, I'm for aggressive containment in this scenario as well. Even if completely overrunning the Allied bridgehead will prove to be impossible, passive defence is a losing game. Allies must be forced into using their main fleet to keep Waingapoe's SLOCs open as long as possible, as this will automatically prevent exploitation. An opportunity for a combined carrier-LBA hit on said fleet might also present itself.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
I'm not sure this can be done. If Andy has +1000 Engr/+200 Engr Vehicles there, as he easily could, they can repair even 99/99/99 damage frightfully quick. as witpqs wrote above, at this point the allies can build up bases with their engr armada from jungle to mega-field in just a few weeks.
Close it? Yes, but only for a few days at best. Just my opinion.
Scary that you might be right, but fortunately there is as always a chance... And I think in this case PzBs careful preservation of forces and quality in combination with the strategic advantages (recon, interior lines, build-up bases etc) be enough to contain and perhaps even throw Andy back one more time. I bet on PzB in this case.
If PzB would not aggressively counter this move, and fall back under the logic that it cannot be retaken or isolated, then it would be time for surrender. Because also Andy's next hop into the SRA and DEI would be facing the same problem, and an even worse overall situation. So it is now or never...
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I am of this opinion as well.ORIGINAL: janh
... And I think in this case PzBs careful preservation of forces and quality in combination with the strategic advantages (recon, interior lines, build-up bases etc) be enough to contain and perhaps even throw Andy back one more time. I bet on PzB in this case.
If PzB would not aggressively counter this move, and fall back under the logic that it cannot be retaken or isolated, then it would be time for surrender. Because also Andy's next hop into the SRA and DEI would be facing the same problem, and an even worse overall situation. So it is now or never...
Can't wait to see the outcome. If anyone can pull this off, it will be PzB and I can't wait to see how he does it!!!
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The PsB account has been banned. I don't know if this was a joke, but impersonating another user is not allowed here.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
ORIGINAL: janh
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
I'm not sure this can be done. If Andy has +1000 Engr/+200 Engr Vehicles there, as he easily could, they can repair even 99/99/99 damage frightfully quick. as witpqs wrote above, at this point the allies can build up bases with their engr armada from jungle to mega-field in just a few weeks.
Close it? Yes, but only for a few days at best. Just my opinion.
Scary that you might be right, but fortunately there is as always a chance... And I think in this case PzBs careful preservation of forces and quality in combination with the strategic advantages (recon, interior lines, build-up bases etc) be enough to contain and perhaps even throw Andy back one more time. I bet on PzB in this case.
If PzB would not aggressively counter this move, and fall back under the logic that it cannot be retaken or isolated, then it would be time for surrender. Because also Andy's next hop into the SRA and DEI would be facing the same problem, and an even worse overall situation. So it is now or never...
If he can do it long enough to get massive surface bombardment in, he can probably disable/destroy enough engineers to have a chance to do it again, damaging more engineers. They are really his main target.
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What exactly is the allied engineer replacement rate?
No use in having scores of engineer units if you can't fill 'em up!
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
I believe he's got more engineers than he'll even know what to do with - its one thing the allies don't seem to ever lack.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
With Japan once the perimeter is breached the perimeter falls.
Andy appears to have mounted a rather sloppy operation BUT he is ashore. Unless the base can be immediately retaken ( not by an over the beach amphibious assault but by suppression by airpower and naval gunfire before multiple divisions march overland into it and retake it ) then the SRA perimeter is breached.
The saving grace here is that Andy has done a short hook just north of Timor instead of landing in Java or Sumatra proper - which would have been significantly more difficult to contain.
So, PzB has a chance if he fully commits but this chance is only being given him by Andy being sloppy. This is a major strategic tipping point with very real dangers of rapid deterioration of PzBs situation... He's lucky that Andy is Monty-ish and too methodical to fully take advantage of the current destabilisation of the front by running concommittant operations.
Andy appears to have mounted a rather sloppy operation BUT he is ashore. Unless the base can be immediately retaken ( not by an over the beach amphibious assault but by suppression by airpower and naval gunfire before multiple divisions march overland into it and retake it ) then the SRA perimeter is breached.
The saving grace here is that Andy has done a short hook just north of Timor instead of landing in Java or Sumatra proper - which would have been significantly more difficult to contain.
So, PzB has a chance if he fully commits but this chance is only being given him by Andy being sloppy. This is a major strategic tipping point with very real dangers of rapid deterioration of PzBs situation... He's lucky that Andy is Monty-ish and too methodical to fully take advantage of the current destabilisation of the front by running concommittant operations.
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RE: Enemy carriers near SRA!
ORIGINAL: paullus99
I believe he's got more engineers than he'll even know what to do with - its one thing the allies don't seem to ever lack.
True, but they aren't all at W.
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