"Epsom" for BFTB
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- Seydlitz69
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
Where can I find the old ones for HTTR?
"He who has not fought the Germans does not know war". - British Military Aphorism
RE: Epsom Scenarios
I'm nearly there.Any progress on this tukker?
I actually had a very hard time finding these myself, got them in a Bit Torrent file of HTTR [X(]Where can I find the old ones for HTTR?
If you send me a mail or PM with your adress, I'll mail them to you.
Pieter
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
Cool.
Playtesters wanted
The good news[:)]: the Epsom scenario is ready. I'm looking for playtesters. If you're interested, just send me a PM with your e-mail adress, and I'll send you the files.
The bad news[:(] : I've somehow managed to overwrite both the Epsom Phase 4 scenario file and its backup. So this one's going to take a bit longer than expected [:@] Please be patient...
Pieter
The bad news[:(] : I've somehow managed to overwrite both the Epsom Phase 4 scenario file and its backup. So this one's going to take a bit longer than expected [:@] Please be patient...
Pieter
Epsom Phase 4 ready for testing
It took a bit longer then expected [:o], but the new version of the Epsom Phase 4 scenario is ready for testing. If you're interested in doing so, send me a PM
Pieter
Pieter
RE: Epsom Scenarios
ORIGINAL: Rebel Yell
Cool.
very cool
RE: Epsom Scenarios
The "Epsom" scenario can be downloaded from the games depot at www.wargamer.com
"Epsom Phase 4" is coming soon.
Pieter
"Epsom Phase 4" is coming soon.
Pieter
- Seydlitz69
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
Great, but link is not working.
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- Prince of Eckmühl
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
ORIGINAL: Seydlitz69
Great, but link is not working.
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- Prince of Eckmühl
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
ORIGINAL: tukker
The "Epsom" scenario can be downloaded from the games depot at www.wargamer.com.
"Epsom Phase 4" is coming soon.
Pieter
Tukker, you've got a period after .com in your link.
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
ORIGINAL: tukker
The "Epsom" scenario can be downloaded from the games depot at www.wargamer.com.
"Epsom Phase 4" is coming soon.
Pieter
This should get everyone where they want to go:
http://www.wargamer.com/gamesdepot/details.asp?sid=4799
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
I've removed the [dot] in the original link, but this one's better. Thanks PoE !
Pieter
Pieter
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
ORIGINAL: tukker
I've removed the [dot] in the original link, but this one's better. Thanks PoE !
Pieter
NP, glad to be of help.
And thanks for your work on this. It looks excellent, and will no doubt be a lot of fun to play.
Since we're in the modder's forum, though, I have a question for you...
In examining your work in the estab editor, I noticed that you appear to have used the Pz.IV.j that's native to the BftB estabs. I'm looking at doing something from early-mid 1944 and am curious as to how you believe that a Pz.IV.g or Pz.IV.h might differ in terms of estab values from the "J" model? Or are these later series Pz.IV so similar in their essentials as to make any such differentiations unnecessary? Thoughts?
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RE: Epsom Scenarios
According to the description, the Pz IV Ausf J in the BFTB Estab already also represents late model Ausf G and Ausf H. Like you said, the late model Pz IVs were quite similar, and I don't think the differences matter in terms of gameplay. So I'd go with the Pz IV J without modifications.
Pieter
Pieter
RE: "Epsom" for BFTB
The Epsom Phase 4 scenario can now be downloaded here: http://wargamer.com/gamesdepot/details.asp?sid=4800
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RE: "Epsom" for BFTB
Playing thru as Germans right now- Historically, did the 12th SS just occupy those positions moments before the battle? Dug in/entrenched would make their defense a little more tenable. I'd already played as the British, and I crushed the 12th SS on the opening attack, and was basically waiting around the rest of the scenario picking off the reinforcements as they arrived.
Did you notice that it appears the bocage terrain 'overrides' the minor river and thick woods movement modifiers? At least I think this is what's happening. Motorized units can cross both at about 5% movement. By contrast the stream motorized movement modifier is 1%, so a motorized unit can supposedly cross a wider barrier, quicker. Is this intentional?
Historically, what happened during day 5? It looks like the II SS PzK doesn't get much time on map.
Did you notice that it appears the bocage terrain 'overrides' the minor river and thick woods movement modifiers? At least I think this is what's happening. Motorized units can cross both at about 5% movement. By contrast the stream motorized movement modifier is 1%, so a motorized unit can supposedly cross a wider barrier, quicker. Is this intentional?
Historically, what happened during day 5? It looks like the II SS PzK doesn't get much time on map.
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RE: "Epsom" for BFTB
Franklin,
No, it isn't. I'll have a look at it.
II SS Pz Korps' attack didn't manage to cut off VIII Corps south of the river Odon, nor to retake Cheux- but it did worry the British so much that they pulled back from Hill 112, thus in effect ending chance of succes of Operation Epsom.
Pieter
You're right, 12 SS should be dug in.Dug in/entrenched would make their defense a little more tenable.
Did you notice that it appears the bocage terrain 'overrides' the minor river and thick woods movement modifiers? At least I think this is what's happening. Motorized units can cross both at about 5% movement. By contrast the stream motorized movement modifier is 1%, so a motorized unit can supposedly cross a wider barrier, quicker. Is this intentional?
No, it isn't. I'll have a look at it.
Historically, what happened during day 5? It looks like the II SS PzK doesn't get much time on map.
II SS Pz Korps' attack didn't manage to cut off VIII Corps south of the river Odon, nor to retake Cheux- but it did worry the British so much that they pulled back from Hill 112, thus in effect ending chance of succes of Operation Epsom.
Pieter
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RE: "Epsom" for BFTB
What do you think of extending the scenario by a day to let them fight it out in case the on-map situation differs from the historical?II SS Pz Korps' attack didn't manage to cut off VIII Corps south of the river Odon, nor to retake Cheux- but it did worry the British so much that they pulled back from Hill 112, thus in effect ending chance of succes of Operation Epsom.
Pieter
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RE: "Epsom" for BFTB
Historically, II Pz Korps had to launch their attack before they were ready. The way the scenario is set up now, the Axis player has to do the same: launch the counterattack straightaway. I'll have another look at the scenario, and think about extending it. In the meantime: feel free to open the ScenMaker and extend the scenario. [:)] You could even upload the extended version so we can choose.
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RE: "Epsom" for BFTB
Hmm, if you're ok with it I may do so; but I didn't want to modify your scenario and have multiple versions floating around (I've dealt with that headache too many times in real life).
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