new scenarios in the plannig?

[boshar]

I'd like to have an extra scenario in this game. A French Saar offensive with (off course) the option to do a real attack on the Siegfried line (not the halfhearthed historical one).

We have the map and the OOB already. Could a relatively easy addition.

[D.Ilse]

Fall Rot 1940
The Italian invasions of France, Albania and Greece, maybe Somaliland 1940
Denmark/Norway Operation
A Hypo-German/Czech conflict in 1938
Slovak–Hungarian War 1939
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak%E2% ... garian_War
Finnish/Russian Winter War and Continuation War.

[colberki]

France 1944 is a better choice for the next release to avoid the direct comparison with Garys Grisgby monster Eastern Front game.

[Redmarkus5]

Just brain storming here.

Would it be possible to add a strategic layer based on a 'dynamic' card system to keep it simple?  The player would decide where to attack or defend at army group level and there would be a set of possible scenarios built to fit within each situation (e.g. Player chooses the card "AGN to advance on Leningrad Military District", which is only available if Leningrad is still in Soviet hands - then the game engine picks from available scenarios in that 'folder').  Some will have the Soviets defending, some counterattacking.

This would require a player ability to edit the OOB between scenarios - e.g. to shift panzer divs to the south for the next phase/season.  Withdraw for refit?  Other?

Maybe a user scenario editor could be released that allows users to add scenarios only within the scope of those strategic 'sectors'...?

If that could work, then why not add a card system for economic and diplomatic decisions as well?  In the distant future lol...

[Blind Sniper]

Hi Alan, I was joking and I think you are right, a better tracking system would be nice [:)]

[Hexagon]

Well, is obvious that an east title will receive a direct comparison with Garys Grisgby Eastern Front game but both games are different and see another Normandy title is


I prefer see for west a patch game with south France where we can see the missing Italian front for 1940, balcans (if we have italians we can have Greece) and can add Creta as bonus... total 4-5 scens + variants and Norway and Finland winter war are in the air... but i really prefer an east title and Barbarossa is a good option.

This depends of people taste but i think that the next title need cover something "exotic" or a good east front campaign, another Normandy or Bulge title is only another game of Normandy or Bulge more [;)]

[Redmarkus5]

I guess Hexagon is right.  Personally, I've been waiting so long for WitE that I really want to play that and I can't see myself playing an East front version of DC-WtP in the same year.  The Balkans plus Crete and N Africa could be a good mix...  I wonder how the naval aspects will be modeled?

[Fastheinz]

[:)] Great game, Vic! I would like to see this great work continue! Thanks...[&o]

[AZKGungHo]

I'm guessing Vic just might keep on going chronologically.  How about North Africa, and forward?  I'll tell you one hypothetical I'd love to see, what if Hitler got tired of Franco playing him, and invaded Spain and took out Gibraltar? I've done that in SC, but at this level it would be very cool! 

I doubt the game engine is ready for the pacific, unless there's lots here I haven't seen. The whole naval issue would be huge, so for now I'm betting he sticks with the ETO (though you could do some cool stuff with Burma and China maybe?)

Either way, we're off to a good start, and I for one have a lot to learn about this new and challenging system! Thanks Vic!![&o]

[G Felzien]

I would like a Norway scenario but I suspect that will also require Denmark to be covered as well.

Also, instead of the campaign being three separate scenarios, can we have a complete western European map that allows us to move units and fight between fronts etc?

[WilliePete]

as for a small scenario Norway would do. I myself would like to see the Balkan Campaign. But what would you like to see for the next game release is the real question. I don't think it would be feasible to make a release out of a bunch of smaller, lesser WW2 campaigns. North Africa is a candidate. Italy is also a good candidate. Normandy, Market-Garden, and the Bulge would all be perfect. My favorite though is the Eastern Front, and that could be broken down in many sub-campaigns. The smaller scenarios like Norway could be added in with main title.

[Redmarkus5]

East Front is also my favourite, just wonder about the marketing sense of that - it will compete with WitE?

However, it would be very nice to have an East Front campaign that is broken down into scenarios by year or even season and region (Summer '41, Leningrad/Baltic MDs, then Summer 41 Belorussia, etc.)

There could be a historical option where you fight each historical battle on the relevant front, plus a dynamic campaign where your success/failure determines which map you play on next.

[Panzeh]

I tend to think that while a lot of guys on the forums who buy these games as a matter of course like mega-scenarios, it might be more appealing to have shorter scenarios that can be done within, say, an evening, something similar to the small Dutch scenario.

[LuckyJim1010]

Can anyone who has the game say if they see it as an engine for modern/cold war/ww3 in Europe type of scenarios ?

I am seriously thinking of getting this game - just want to see how it all pans out....

[Sneer]

what can I say .... I like the engine
I like the concept of less popular known battles
but....
even with some variations this game has a bit too little content for me
3 bigger 2 smaller scenarios ....
I'm a bit disppointed
I expected at least sacandinavian campaign inside

game is relatively too short for me
nearest competitor -> TOAW had tons of scenarios to play with ....

[borsook79]

If I may cast my "vote" - Norway as a addition (free or very cheap) to this game, Africa + Balkans as the next game in the series.

[Toby42]

Yes, small playable scenario's. Case Yellow is too big to be enjoyable!

[bcgames]

ORIGINAL: Panzeh

I tend to think that while a lot of guys on the forums who buy these games as a matter of course like mega-scenarios, it might be more appealing to have shorter scenarios that can be done within, say, an evening, something similar to the small Dutch scenario.

I like short scenarios mostly; but like the option of having the long ones too. I wish there were more short scenarios in Decisive Campaigns...and I'm not talkin' 'bout including more of the ahistorical lot currently delivered with the game. The Long are there...the short--ain't.

[patchogue]

It would probably require major additions - particularly air supply - and maybe a change of scale to battalions but I'd like to see a Kohima/Imphal battle.

[Zaratoughda]

Erik Nygaard did a great TOAW scenario (Weserubung) on the German invasion of Denmark and Norway... and it is 5 KM per hex and 1 day turns which is a WTP scale.

However, the units are mostly batallion (TOAW allows 9 units to stack in a hex) with some smaller (even saw one airdrop squad) units, and as I understand it WTP is mostly regimental level.

Yeah, a disadvantage to do this scenario at the regimental level because we got small unit actions over the large expanse, but I imagine it can be done.

Also, the map is almost 300x300 and I am not sure WTP can handle a map that large.

The big problem with Erik's scenario, is it was done for TOAW. With JMass' graphics mod the graphics are great but then there is the TOAW game systems. The scenario, although tedious, plays out OK for the first few turns but then there is TOAW taking MPs away from every unit on the map whenever you make an attack and, that makes you have to go back and forth between like 7-10 different areas on the map time after time in the same player turn and, that is enough to make you go insane, and at that point the scenario, at least for me, fell apart.

Yeah, would be really nice to get this in WTP.

If there was an editor available I just might try to talk Erik into doing it. He is Norewigan and knows this campaign like the back of his hand.

I also suggested smaller, army level scenarios, for the Polish campaign but doesn't look like that one is gonna happen.

My belief is that east front or Mediteranean scearios are gonna come in separate games in this series (yeah, would be GREAT to get the Burma campaign and the like in a game). But, there are still a few scenario possibilities that exist for WTP.

Zaratoughda